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| Started by | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-28 04:26 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-02-28 19:31 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 200 — 20 participants |
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What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-02-28 04:26 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 04:31 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:24 -0700
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-02-28 04:29 -0600
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-02-28 10:37 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 05:39 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 05:36 -0700
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-02-28 10:10 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 13:02 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-28 20:01 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 04:55 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-03-01 13:55 +0100
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 09:15 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-03-01 15:05 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 13:29 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 13:38 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 18:31 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-01 18:58 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-01 16:56 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 13:54 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 13:53 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 19:14 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:30 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:30 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 21:38 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1300
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 19:28 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 13:45 +1300
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:42 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:50 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 14:08 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 14:26 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 14:46 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 14:58 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 19:26 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:25 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 13:52 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 00:30 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:38 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:20 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:02 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-02 20:42 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:46 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:30 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:05 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 17:08 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:48 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:11 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 21:13 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 03:49 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 08:24 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:11 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:10 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 11:47 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 17:16 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:05 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:54 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 14:23 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:50 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:30 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:27 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 19:53 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:30 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 18:23 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2017-03-03 04:44 -0800
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:48 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:42 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:09 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 00:57 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 16:03 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-01 16:57 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 14:04 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:52 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-02 08:17 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 14:02 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:30 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:24 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 17:31 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:49 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:54 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:04 +0000
Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 18:57 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:24 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-01 14:46 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:09 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:33 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:01 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:19 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2017-03-03 04:46 -0800
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 15:02 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-03 17:15 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 21:47 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:33 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:17 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 20:27 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:56 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 22:08 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 20:30 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 03:08 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-03 04:10 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-03 17:03 +1100
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 16:03 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 07:36 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 07:35 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 14:55 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 00:36 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:46 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 22:08 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 23:52 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 13:13 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 00:45 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:43 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-01 15:01 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 15:02 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 20:41 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:07 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 00:48 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:50 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-02 19:55 +1100
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 13:59 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:18 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 18:17 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 13:36 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:43 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:58 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 22:08 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 00:35 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:41 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 22:51 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 18:25 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 23:43 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:00 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:20 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 19:57 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 18:48 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:07 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:11 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 00:56 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:06 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:20 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:30 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 18:20 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:33 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-02 19:18 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-03 08:03 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 13:27 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:23 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-03 18:29 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 13:04 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-02 15:50 +1100
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-01 21:00 -0800
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 21:47 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-02 20:00 +1100
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 00:38 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 21:47 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 13:19 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 20:39 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 15:22 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 22:08 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 07:40 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-03 13:21 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 21:06 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-04 01:27 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 04:28 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 23:29 +1300
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 19:06 +0000
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 14:26 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:54 -0500
Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:13 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:20 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 11:19 -0700
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-02-28 10:08 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 13:02 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 11:21 -0700
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 14:06 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-02-28 10:40 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:24 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-28 15:51 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 05:00 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 18:36 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-02-28 18:51 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-02-28 17:24 -0800
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 05:02 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 18:36 +0000
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-01 07:52 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500
Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2017-02-28 19:31 -0500
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| From | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 04:26 -0500 |
| Subject | What's the Verdict on FileVault? |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D4DAAC7100BBB46BB02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the group's experience? -- Nelson
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 04:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <280220170431084570%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #101408 |
In article <0001HW.D4DAAC7100BBB46BB02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used > FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional > complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the > group's experience? do it
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| From | "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 03:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <agisaak-985342.03245428022017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #101408 |
In article <0001HW.D4DAAC7100BBB46BB02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used > FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional > complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the > group's experience? > > -- > Nelson I've never had any issues with FileVault. The only processing overhead you'll notice is during the initial encryption of the drive, and even that's very minimal. When you first turn it on it will take quite awhile to do the initial encryption (assuming your drive isn't virtually empty), but you can work as normal during this period. Andre -- To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail service.
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| From | ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 04:29 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <M9Gdne-1hoaHzCjFnZ2dnUU7-e2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #101408 |
Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used
> FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional
> complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the
> group's experience?
What Mac are you using? I was told very old ones like 2008's MacBook is
a bad idea. :(
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| From | Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 10:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnobaknd.nim.invalid@MacBook-Pro.local> |
| In reply to | #101415 |
On 2017-02-28, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote: > Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >> So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used >> FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional >> complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the >> group's experience? > > What Mac are you using? I was told very old ones like 2008's MacBook is > a bad idea. :( MBP 13" unibody mid-2012 with SSD: no issues, no noticeable changes in performance. -- A spokesman said: “Would you like to buy some of my spokes?”
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 05:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <280220170539018971%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #101417 |
In article <slrnobaknd.nim.invalid@MacBook-Pro.local>, Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> wrote: > >> So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used > >> FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional > >> complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the > >> group's experience? > > > > What Mac are you using? I was told very old ones like 2008's MacBook is > > a bad idea. :( > > MBP 13" unibody mid-2012 with SSD: no issues, no noticeable changes in performance. recent enough for hardware encryption support.
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| From | "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 05:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <agisaak-4D2CF9.05361428022017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #101415 |
In article <M9Gdne-1hoaHzCjFnZ2dnUU7-e2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote: > Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > > So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used > > FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional > > complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the > > group's experience? > > What Mac are you using? I was told very old ones like 2008's MacBook is > a bad idea. :( In response to the above I should revise my first reply. Don't use FileVault on Pre-Lion systems. FileVault had an entirely different implementation on those systems which did have potential problems and which would interfere with Time Machine. Speaking of Time Machine, if you're using FileVault make sure you also have a good backup strategy since the NSA won't be able to provide you with backups anymore ;-) Andre -- To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail service.
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| From | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 10:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D4DAFD0D00CE98B3B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #101422 |
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:36:14 -0500, Andre G. Isaak wrote (in article <agisaak-4D2CF9.05361428022017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>): > In article <M9Gdne-1hoaHzCjFnZ2dnUU7-e2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, > ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote: > >> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> So I finally have a reason to encrypt some files. I have never used >>> FileVault since I figured it added processing overhead, additional >>> complexity, and additional opportunities for errors. What is the >>> group's experience? >> >> What Mac are you using? I was told very old ones like 2008's MacBook is >> a bad idea. :( > > In response to the above I should revise my first reply. > > Don't use FileVault on Pre-Lion systems. FileVault had an entirely > different implementation on those systems which did have potential > problems and which would interfere with Time Machine. > > Speaking of Time Machine, if you're using FileVault make sure you also > have a good backup strategy since the NSA won't be able to provide you > with backups anymore ;-) > > Andre > > Hmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and Time Machine so that's a "No"? -- Nelson
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 13:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <280220171302066543%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #101430 |
In article <0001HW.D4DAFD0D00CE98B3B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > > > > Hmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and Time Machine so that's a "No"? why are you still using snow leopard???
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-28 20:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ehm394F73gtU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #101457 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <0001HW.D4DAFD0D00CE98B3B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson > <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >> Hmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and Time Machine so that's a "No"? > > why are you still using snow leopard??? A good question. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 04:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D4DC04D7010C6BB7B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #101470 |
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:01:40 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote (in article <ehm394F73gtU3@mid.individual.net>): > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> In article <0001HW.D4DAFD0D00CE98B3B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson >> <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and Time Machine so that's a "No"? >> >> why are you still using snow leopard??? Why are you not? > > A good question. And one I've answered before :) Snow Leopard meets my needs and I have yet to see a benefit in the newer systems that would justify the cost in both time, aggravation, and dollars to upgrade. Not to mention there are "features" I would pay _not_ to have. Upgrading the system is the least of the problems. It is upgrading all the apps that I find off-putting. Plus losing the ones that rely on Rosetta. There is also the issue of data. It has already become painfully difficult to open files created with older versions of Filemaker, Word, Excel, etc. Along with the application upgrades, I would have to upgrade all these older formats. I know that all these things are do-able and that there are ways around the problems. But what do I gain? A crappy interface, a locked-down computer that can only install apps via the App Store, Applescript riddled with bugs, Big Brother Apple constantly communicating with my computer and trying to force me to use their "cloud" so that I can connect to all the "Social Networks" that I abhor? Synching between all the iToys that I don't own? A bunch of new bugs which will probably never be addressed because Cook has lost interest in the Mac? Opinions and needs differ, I know. But until I can find a compelling argument to upgrade I won't. -- Nelson
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| From | befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 13:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1n27nxb.1budjmt1377iyqN%befr@eaglesoft.de> |
| In reply to | #101516 |
Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > a locked-down > computer that can only install apps via the App Store I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is plain wrong. You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra.
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| From | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 09:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D4DC41CF011AB590B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #101527 |
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:55:56 -0500, Bernd Fröhlich wrote (in article <1n27nxb.1budjmt1377iyqN%befr@eaglesoft.de>): > Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> a locked-down >> computer that can only install apps via the App Store > > I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is > plain wrong. > You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is that not true? -- Nelson
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| From | Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 15:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnobdoq4.13fl.invalid@MacBook-Pro.local> |
| In reply to | #101528 |
On 2017-03-01, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:55:56 -0500, Bernd Fröhlich wrote > (in article <1n27nxb.1budjmt1377iyqN%befr@eaglesoft.de>): > >> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> a locked-down >>> computer that can only install apps via the App Store >> >> I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is >> plain wrong. >> You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. > > My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is > that not true? You can manually add exception at the first run - ctrl-click, open, confirm. -- A spokesman said: “Would you like to buy some of my spokes?”
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <010320171100268493%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #101528 |
In article <0001HW.D4DC41CF011AB590B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> a locked-down > >> computer that can only install apps via the App Store > > > > I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is > > plain wrong. > > You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. > > My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is > that not true? the developer provides it. you just download and install.
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| From | Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 13:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D4DC7D2001289C8EB02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #101535 |
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:00:26 -0500, nospam wrote (in article <010320171100268493%nospam@nospam.invalid>): > In article <0001HW.D4DC41CF011AB590B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson > <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>>> a locked-down >>>> computer that can only install apps via the App Store >>> >>> I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is >>> plain wrong. >>> You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. >> >> My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is >> that not true? > > the developer provides it. > > you just download and install. To me that's like saying before you can talk on your phone you just have to turn around 3 times and click your heels. No problem. -- Nelson
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 13:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <010320171338359145%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #101548 |
In article <0001HW.D4DC7D2001289C8EB02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>>> a locked-down > >>>> computer that can only install apps via the App Store > >>> > >>> I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is > >>> plain wrong. > >>> You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. > >> > >> My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is > >> that not true? > > > > the developer provides it. > > > > you just download and install. > > To me that's like saying before you can talk on your phone you just > have to turn around 3 times and click your heels. No problem. where in the world did you get that idea? there is *no* difference in installing third party apps in snow leopard versus now. download whatever you want, drag to the apps folder (or run the installer if any) and use the app. no extra steps required.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ehoic9Fm1sfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #101528 |
On 2017-03-01, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:55:56 -0500, Bernd Fröhlich wrote > (in article <1n27nxb.1budjmt1377iyqN%befr@eaglesoft.de>): > >> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> a locked-down >>> computer that can only install apps via the App Store >> >> I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is >> plain wrong. >> You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. > > My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is > that not true? It's untrue. You can run anything you want. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 18:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnobe6j2.26dp.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #101528 |
In message <0001HW.D4DC41CF011AB590B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:55:56 -0500, Bernd Fröhlich wrote > (in article <1n27nxb.1budjmt1377iyqN%befr@eaglesoft.de>): >> Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> a locked-down >>> computer that can only install apps via the App Store >> >> I can understand most of your reasons not to upgrade, but this one is >> plain wrong. >> You can install Apps from anywhere you want in Sierra. > My understanding is that you need some kind of security receipt. Is > that not true? Not true. -- Two, Four, Six, Eight! Time to Transubstantiate!
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <010320171100258438%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #101516 |
In article <0001HW.D4DC04D7010C6BB7B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>> Hmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and Time Machine so that's a "No"? > >> > >> why are you still using snow leopard??? > > Why are you not? because it's very old, no longer supported and most apps require at least mavericks or yosemite, if not later. > > A good question. > > And one I've answered before :) Snow Leopard meets my needs and I have > yet to see a benefit in the newer systems that would justify the cost > in both time, aggravation, and dollars to upgrade. Not to mention > there are "features" I would pay _not_ to have. Upgrading the system > is the least of the problems. It is upgrading all the apps that I find > off-putting. Plus losing the ones that rely on Rosetta. there is no cost. upgrading is completely free. you do lose rosetta, but that's about it. however, any app that hasn't been updated to run on intel is abandonware and is not getting bug fixes or security. > There is also the issue of data. It has already become painfully > difficult to open files created with older versions of Filemaker, Word, > Excel, etc. Along with the application upgrades, I would have to > upgrade all these older formats. nonsense. apps can open older versions of files without issue. > I know that all these things are do-able and that there are ways around > the problems. But what do I gain? A crappy interface, a locked-down > computer that can only install apps via the App Store, nonsense. there is no lockdown. you can install apps from anywhere you want without issue. > Applescript > riddled with bugs, Big Brother Apple constantly communicating with my > computer and trying to force me to use their "cloud" so that I can > connect to all the "Social Networks" that I abhor? nobody is forcing anything. > Synching between all > the iToys that I don't own? how would it sync to something you don't own? > A bunch of new bugs which will probably > never be addressed because Cook has lost interest in the Mac? tim cook has not lost interest in the mac. more bullshit. apple is actively working on mac os and mac hardware, and unlike snow leopard, sierra is getting bug fixes and security fixes. > Opinions and needs differ, I know. But until I can find a compelling > argument to upgrade I won't. opinions and needs may differ, except that yours are based on completely bogus information.
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