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  Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-14 01:39 +0000
    Re: Fink Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-13 23:06 -0400
    Re: Fink Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 20:26 -0700
    Re: Fink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-14 08:25 -0500
      Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-14 15:10 +0000
        Re: Fink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 11:41 -0400
          Re: Fink George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-14 13:01 -0500
          Re: Fink Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-14 14:15 -0400
            Re: Fink Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2011-04-14 14:18 -0500
              Re: Fink Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-14 17:30 -0400
                Re: Fink Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2011-04-14 20:06 -0500
              Re: Fink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 07:19 -0400
                Re: Fink John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2011-04-16 19:50 -0700
            Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-14 21:14 +0000
              Re: Fink Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-15 12:42 -0400
                Re: Fink Edward Theodore Gein <egein@no.where.at.all> - 2011-04-15 13:55 -0400
                  Re: Fink nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-15 14:28 -0700
                Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-16 02:17 +0000
                  Re: Fink Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2011-04-16 06:42 -0700
            Re: Fink George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-15 08:03 -0500
        Re: Fink Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2011-04-14 08:54 -0700
          Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-14 21:13 +0000
          Re: Fink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 07:24 -0400
        Re: Fink nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-14 09:18 -0700
          Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-14 21:16 +0000
        Re: Fink "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-15 23:28 +0000
          Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-16 02:16 +0000
    Re: Fink Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us> - 2011-04-14 22:34 -0400
      Re: Fink Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2011-04-15 03:49 +0000
    Re: Fink "Michael C." <mjchappell@news.eternal-september.org> - 2011-04-19 07:47 +0000

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#708 — Fink

Hello all,

Long time Linux user, just got my first iMac (21.5" version).  Quite
impressed so far...  Somebody told me about "Fink", website here:

http://www.finkproject.org/index.php?phpLang=en

...and wondering what some of you experienced users think of it.  Seems
like a cool way to run some open-source apps that are not natively
available on the Mac.  For instance, the 'Pan' newsreader that I am fond
of in Linux, would love to be able to run that on the Mac.

Any thoughts on this Fink thing?  Does it work well?  Thanks.


-- 
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as the warp core breached.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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#714

On 04-13-2011 21:39, Dan C wrote:
> Any thoughts on this Fink thing?  Does it work well?  Thanks.

I tried it a couple of times.  It worked, but I didn't like it.

I have downloaded and installed several open source items on
my Mac with neither fink nor Darwinports.  All but one compiled
and worked on OS X without modification.

The exception had two compile errors, both because Mac OS had
a newer version of BerkeleyDB than the people supporting that
code.  Adding
   , NULL
two each of two function calls fixed it, and the compiler error
got me to the right line immediately.  Figuring out the fix
was a little longer (finding the called function in BerkeleyDB)
but not bad.

-- 
Wes Groleau

    Don't get even — get odd!

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#717

Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> writes:

> Hello all,
> 
> Long time Linux user, just got my first iMac (21.5" version).  Quite
> impressed so far...  Somebody told me about "Fink", website here:
> 
> http://www.finkproject.org/index.php?phpLang=en
> 
> ...and wondering what some of you experienced users think of it.  Seems
> like a cool way to run some open-source apps that are not natively
> available on the Mac.  For instance, the 'Pan' newsreader that I am fond
> of in Linux, would love to be able to run that on the Mac.
> 
> Any thoughts on this Fink thing?  Does it work well?  Thanks.

When I first started using OS X I used fink quite a bit.

Now I don't.  It worked fine, but in the end, once I realized that 
emacs could run well on the OS X desktop, I started phasing out fink
and much X11 usage.

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#733

*sigh*

I just read this message in another news group, yet it's not marked as 
read here because you multi-posted it rather than cross posting it, 
which means I now get to mark it read in each individual group manually. 
It also means I don't get to see everyone's responses to you in a single 
new group, but have to go digging in each individual news group to find 
all replies. What a pain.

Please do not multi-post. If you send the same message to multiple news 
groups separately, it forces the rest of us to download your message 
multiple times. Also, it means if someone replies to one of your posts 
in one news group, the other places you posted the message will not see 
that reply! This is known as "multi-posting", and is generally regarded 
as inconsiderate.

If you want to post the same message to multiple news groups, please 
include all of the news groups, separated by commas, in the "Newsgroups" 
line of a single post, like so:

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps

This way the message is simultaneously posted to all specified news 
groups. More importantly, when someone replies to your message in one 
group, that reply is automatically sent in all other news groups to 
which you sent the post! This allows all involved to see the entire 
conversation, no matter which news group from which  they access your 
post. This is called "cross-posting" and is the proper way to do it.

-- 
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me.
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google
Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.

JR

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#742

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:25:29 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote:

> I just read this message in another news group, yet it's not marked as
> read here because you multi-posted it rather than cross posting it,
> which means I now get to mark it read in each individual group manually.

<SNIP>

Yeah, yeah.  I didn't see this group initially, being new to the Mac 
newsgroups, and had already posted it in *ONE* other group, so pasted it 
here later.  Big whoop.

I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't need 
your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and don't 
normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice day.

It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the thread.


-- 
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he puked on Christopher Robin.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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#744

In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
 Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

> I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't need 
> your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and don't 
> normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice day.
> 
> It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the thread.

You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware party.

> Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

Michelle won't like that!
-- 
If you could teach a cat to dance, 
you'd never have to leave the house.
  -- Pat Sajak

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#754

On 4/14/11 10:41 AM, in article
4da71596$0$28312$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "Warren Oates"
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
>  Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't need
>> your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and don't
>> normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice day.
>> 
>> It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the thread.
> 
> You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware party.
> 
>> Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg
> 
> Michelle won't like that!

I like this one...

<http://tinypic.com/r/2jbm9ee/7>

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#756

In article <4da71596$0$28312$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
>  Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't need 
> > your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and don't 
> > normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice day.
> > 
> > It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the thread.
> 
> You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware party.
> 
> > Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

So Dan C, are you stupid, ignorant, or just yet another radical 
reactionary liar? The FACT of the US debt crisis is that George 'The 
Burning' Bush v2 ran up the debt to record levels never seen before, as 
did his demi-god Ronnie The RayGun before him. A $3 TRILLION war crime 
and TRILLIONS in tax 'relief' to the ultra-rich can do that very 
quickly. Obama's just trying to pay off the tab the Republicans ran up. 
Your reaction's like criticizing the doctor who's trying to cure the 
lung cancer you got by smoking 3 packs a day. Wake up, Dude! It's 
**YOUR** fault!

Oh, and welcome to comp.sys.mac.*.

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#763

In article <fmoore-979279.14155314042011@mx01.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <4da71596$0$28312$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
> >  Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't 
> > > need your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, 
> > > and don't normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a 
> > > nice day.
> > > 
> > > It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the 
> > > thread.
> > 
> > You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware 
> > party.
> > 
> > > Thanks, Obama: 
> > > http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg
> 
> So Dan C, are you stupid, ignorant, or just yet another radical 
> reactionary liar? The FACT of the US debt crisis is that George 'The 
> Burning' Bush v2 ran up the debt to record levels never seen before, 
> as did his demi-god Ronnie The RayGun before him. A $3 TRILLION war 
> crime and TRILLIONS in tax 'relief' to the ultra-rich can do that 
> very quickly. 

And Ronnie even raised taxes because too much had been cut and he wanted 
to reduce the rate of increase in the deficit/debt (note just reduce the 
rate of increase).  It took a Democrat to balance the budget, but that 
went off the rails as soon as the Republicans got back in office.  Party 
of fiscal responsibility my ass.  Robber barons is more like it.

> Obama's just trying to pay off the tab the Republicans ran up. Your 
> reaction's like criticizing the doctor who's trying to cure the lung 
> cancer you got by smoking 3 packs a day. Wake up, Dude! It's **YOUR** 
> fault!
> 
> Oh, and welcome to comp.sys.mac.*.

-- 
"It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we may
judge by the whole tenor of their actions, mean nothing else by it but their 
own liberty ‹ to oppress without control or the restraint of laws all who 
are poorer or weaker than themselves."  Samuel Adams

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#772

In article <timmcn-18165A.14181414042011@news.iphouse.com>,
 Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:


> 
> And Ronnie even raised taxes because too much had been cut and he wanted 
> to reduce the rate of increase in the deficit/debt (note just reduce the 
> rate of increase).  It took a Democrat to balance the budget, but that 
> went off the rails as soon as the Republicans got back in office.  Party 
> of fiscal responsibility my ass.  Robber barons is more like it.
   Latter not remotely true, by the way. The balanced budget had peaked 
in 1999 and was back in the red before the first Bush Budget in FY 2002) 
2001 would have been passed in October of 2000. If you look at the year 
over year %age increases in spending, you will find that they 
accelerated the last couple of years of the Clinton years. Basically, 
there was one, brief shining moment where the economy was so 
breathtakingly overheated that money came in faster than the combined 
efforts of BOTH parties could shove it out the door. 

>

-- 
"Even I realized that money was to politicians what the ecalyptus tree is to koala bears: food, water, shelter and something to crap on."
 ---PJ O'Rourke

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#781

In article <77KdnZH7f54f-jrQnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <timmcn-18165A.14181414042011@news.iphouse.com>,
>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > And Ronnie even raised taxes because too much had been cut and he 
> > wanted to reduce the rate of increase in the deficit/debt (note 
> > just reduce the rate of increase).  It took a Democrat to balance 
> > the budget, but that went off the rails as soon as the Republicans 
> > got back in office.  Party of fiscal responsibility my ass.  Robber 
> > barons is more like it.
>
> Latter not remotely true, by the way. The balanced budget had peaked 
> in 1999 and was back in the red before the first Bush Budget in FY 
> 2002) 2001 would have been passed in October of 2000. If you look at 
> the year over year %age increases in spending, you will find that 
> they accelerated the last couple of years of the Clinton years. 
> Basically, there was one, brief shining moment where the economy was 
> so breathtakingly overheated that money came in faster than the 
> combined efforts of BOTH parties could shove it out the door. 

Looking around the web it's breathtaking the sheer volume of lies spewed 
by the idiot fringe about the deficit and debt and spending, etc.  Be 
very careful about what facts and figures you accept as correct.

-- 
"It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we may
judge by the whole tenor of their actions, mean nothing else by it but their 
own liberty ‹ to oppress without control or the restraint of laws all who 
are poorer or weaker than themselves."  Samuel Adams

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#804

In article <timmcn-18165A.14181414042011@news.iphouse.com>,
 Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

> "It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we may
> judge by the whole tenor of their actions, mean nothing else by it but their 
> own liberty — to oppress without control or the restraint of laws all who 
> are poorer or weaker than themselves."  Samuel Adams

He's the guy that sells the beer, right?
-- 
If you could teach a cat to dance, 
you'd never have to leave the house.
  -- Pat Sajak

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#899

On 4/15/11   PDT 4:19 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article<timmcn-18165A.14181414042011@news.iphouse.com>,
>   Tim McNamara<timmcn@bitstream.net>  wrote:
>
>> "It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we may
>> judge by the whole tenor of their actions, mean nothing else by it but their
>> own liberty — to oppress without control or the restraint of laws all who
>> are poorer or weaker than themselves."  Samuel Adams
>
> He's the guy that sells the beer, right?

That's his GGGrandson, goes by name of Sam.....
Samuel was a playwright. Ho, no, Beckett, I reckon.

Anyway, all deficit spending is the fault of FDR......

Have a nice day!

:-)

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#770

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:15:53 -0400, Fred Moore wrote:

> In article <4da71596$0$28312$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
>>  Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> > I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't
>> > need your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and
>> > don't normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice
>> > day.
>> > 
>> > It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the
>> > thread.
>> 
>> You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware
>> party.
>> 
>> > Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

> So Dan C, are you stupid, ignorant, or just yet another radical
> reactionary liar?

None of the above.

> The FACT of the US debt crisis is that George 'The
> Burning' Bush v2 ran up the debt to record levels never seen before, as
> did his demi-god Ronnie The RayGun before him. A $3 TRILLION war crime
> and TRILLIONS in tax 'relief' to the ultra-rich can do that very
> quickly. Obama's just trying to pay off the tab the Republicans ran up.
> Your reaction's like criticizing the doctor who's trying to cure the
> lung cancer you got by smoking 3 packs a day. Wake up, Dude! It's
> **YOUR** fault!

I'm not gonna debate politics in here with you.  Sorry.

> Oh, and welcome to comp.sys.mac.*.

Thanks.


-- 
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he sent another AreaFix message.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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#828

In article <pan.2011.04.14.21.14.05@moria.lan>,
 Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:15:53 -0400, Fred Moore wrote:
> 
> > In article <4da71596$0$28312$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
> >  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
> >>  Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't
> >> > need your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and
> >> > don't normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice
> >> > day.
> >> > 
> >> > It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the
> >> > thread.
> >> 
> >> You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware
> >> party.
> >> 
> >> > Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg
> 
> > So Dan C, are you stupid, ignorant, or just yet another radical
> > reactionary liar?
> 
> None of the above.
> 
> > The FACT of the US debt crisis is that George 'The
> > Burning' Bush v2 ran up the debt to record levels never seen before, as
> > did his demi-god Ronnie The RayGun before him. A $3 TRILLION war crime
> > and TRILLIONS in tax 'relief' to the ultra-rich can do that very
> > quickly. Obama's just trying to pay off the tab the Republicans ran up.
> > Your reaction's like criticizing the doctor who's trying to cure the
> > lung cancer you got by smoking 3 packs a day. Wake up, Dude! It's
> > **YOUR** fault!
> 
> I'm not gonna debate politics in here with you.  Sorry.

So putting a political reference in your sig is just a hit-and-run 
tactic?

> > Oh, and welcome to comp.sys.mac.*.
> 
> Thanks.

You're welcome.   --John Hodgeman

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#834

In article <fmoore-FA80ED.12424115042011@mx02.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> So putting a political reference in your sig is just a hit-and-run 
> tactic?

No, Fred, it's a sig. That's all it is. Anyone is entitled to put 
anything they want in a sig (less than 4 lines, of course!) and you 
should just mind your own business about it. If you don't want to read 
sigs, tell your newsreader not to display them. It can't get any simpler 
than that. What? Newswatcher won't let you do that? Tough shit.

It's like, you don't like nudity on HBO? Don't watch HBO. Your 
christ-obsessed govt makes sure there ain't no nipples over the air.
-- 
You made me this way asshole
Imbeciles are easy; toss up shit, it attracts flies
I fuck the skull of jesus

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#843

Edward Theodore Gein <egein@no.where.at.all> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-FA80ED.12424115042011@mx02.eternal-september.org>,
>  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > So putting a political reference in your sig is just a hit-and-run 
> > tactic?
> 
> No, Fred, it's a sig. That's all it is. Anyone is entitled to put 
> anything they want in a sig...

Yep. Just like anyone is entitled to bitch about it. Welcome to the
world. If you don't want people to read it, don't put it there. If you
put it there and they bitch about it... well, I guess you are entitled
to bitch about the bitching. Not that anyone has to pay any attention to
your bitches. Etc., etc., etc.

-- 
Richard Maine                    | Good judgment comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain

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#866

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:42:41 -0400, Fred Moore wrote:

>> I'm not gonna debate politics in here with you.  Sorry.
> 
> So putting a political reference in your sig is just a hit-and-run
> tactic?

You can call it whatever you'd like.

I just call it a sig.

Not the same as arguing politics in the body of a post, and let's just 
leave it at that, OK?


-- 
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he rolled off the prostitute.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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#883

In article <pan.2011.04.16.02.17.18@moria.lan>,
 Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

> >> I'm not gonna debate politics in here with you.  Sorry.
> > 
> > So putting a political reference in your sig is just a hit-and-run 
> > tactic?
> 
> You can call it whatever you'd like.
> 
> I just call it a sig.
> 
> Not the same as arguing politics in the body of a post, and let's just 
> leave it at that, OK?

I agree with you on that; I vehemently disagree with the sig in question, 
though.  But I'm not going to debate it here either.

Have a nice day.  -- Mick Foley

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#814

On 4/14/11 1:15 PM, in article
fmoore-979279.14155314042011@mx01.eternal-september.org, "Fred Moore"
<fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <4da71596$0$28312$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <pan.2011.04.14.15.09.47@moria.lan>,
>>  Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have likely been on Usenet since you were in diapers, and don't need
>>> your posting lessons.  I know all about cross/multi posting, and don't
>>> normally ever do such a thing.  Get over it and have a nice day.
>>> 
>>> It's notable that you provided absolutely *ZERO* content to the thread.
>> 
>> You'll do just fine around these parts; welcome to the Tupperware party.
>> 
>>> Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg
> 
> So Dan C, are you stupid, ignorant, or just yet another radical
> reactionary liar? The FACT of the US debt crisis is that George 'The
> Burning' Bush v2 ran up the debt to record levels never seen before, as
> did his demi-god Ronnie The RayGun before him. A $3 TRILLION war crime
> and TRILLIONS in tax 'relief' to the ultra-rich can do that very
> quickly. Obama's just trying to pay off the tab the Republicans ran up.
> Your reaction's like criticizing the doctor who's trying to cure the
> lung cancer you got by smoking 3 packs a day. Wake up, Dude! It's
> **YOUR** fault!
> 
> Oh, and welcome to comp.sys.mac.*.

Hey Freddy, is your Messiah still doin' the tobacco thing?

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