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macOS 10.12.1 Available

Started byJim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com>
First post2016-10-25 09:05 -0700
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  macOS 10.12.1 Available Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 09:05 -0700
    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> - 2016-10-26 10:12 +0200
      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2016-10-26 08:23 +0000
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-26 14:11 -0500
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-26 16:21 -0600
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-27 00:42 -0500
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-27 18:16 -0600
      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-26 22:03 +1300
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> - 2016-10-26 14:38 +0200
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-28 08:26 +1300
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-28 13:30 +1300
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:40 -0400
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 15:46 -0400
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:54 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-28 20:00 +0000
                  Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 16:24 -0400
                    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-29 16:50 +0000
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 16:17 -0400
                  Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 16:23 -0400
                    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 16:25 -0400
                      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 16:50 -0400
                      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 11:26 -0400
                        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 12:48 -0400
                          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-29 17:17 +0000
                            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 13:38 -0400
                            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 13:45 -0400
                              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-29 17:53 +0000
                                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 15:07 -0400
                              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-29 15:02 -0400
                                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 16:08 -0400
                          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2016-10-30 07:42 +0200
                            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 10:47 -0400
                        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-30 21:43 +1300
                          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 11:00 -0400
                        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-31 08:50 +1300
                          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 17:01 -0400
                            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-31 12:39 +1300
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-29 15:54 +1300
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:44 +0000
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:43 +0000
      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-26 19:03 -0400
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-01 10:01 -0700
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 17:48 +0000
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-02 08:25 -0700
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 10:26 -0700
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-02 18:42 +0100
                  Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:12 -0700
                    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 04:39 +0000
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 20:30 +0000
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 20:29 +0000

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#95996 — macOS 10.12.1 Available

FromJim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-25 09:05 -0700
SubjectmacOS 10.12.1 Available
Message-ID<251020160905562077%JimSGibson@gmail.com>
I was offered macOS update 10.12.1 this morning. A restart was required.

-- 
Jim Gibson

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#96000

FromDr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date2016-10-26 10:12 +0200
Message-ID<005a2282-1c81-959c-7262-e75c8d967737@lisse.NA>
In reply to#95996
My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
other boxes.

Any advice?

el

On 2016-10-25 18:05, Jim Gibson wrote:
> I was offered macOS update 10.12.1 this morning. A restart was
> required.
>

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#96002

FromKrzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl>
Date2016-10-26 08:23 +0000
Message-ID<slrno10q0i.gtm.invalid@MacBook-Pro.local>
In reply to#96000
On 2016-10-26, Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
> My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
> want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
> anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
> other boxes.
>
> Any advice?
>
> el
>
> On 2016-10-25 18:05, Jim Gibson wrote:
>> I was offered macOS update 10.12.1 this morning. A restart was
>> required.
>>
>

Have you tried to manually copy the update file to other computer? The 
pkg files are in subfolder of /Library/Updates. I haven't tested if this 
works, though.

-- 
A spokesman said: "Would you like to buy some of my spokes?"

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#96016

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-10-26 14:11 -0500
Message-ID<nuqv4i$1vmg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#96002
Someone recently complained that Apple was forcing updates on us.

Several of us pointed out that it's not forced if you have a choice.

Well, my NON-admin account was asked if I wanted to install the already 
downloaded update.

I had ALL checkboxes OFF associated with automation on updates.  The 
first install of Sierra apparently turned them all on, but at least it 
doesn't do restart installs without asking.

I turned them all off again, but did the install.  Part way through it 
puts the screen to sleep.  This is dumb, because if someone thinks the 
computer is off, they may push the power button.  No problem (yet) 
because nothing happens.  But then, if they think it is asleep, and find 
out they can't wake it up, the "solution" is to hold down the button 
until it turns off.  Which of course seriously breaks the update install.

Well, since I had initiated the update, I didn't do that.  But 
afterward, when I logged into my non-admin account again, I was 
presented with a list of "incompatible software not migrated" but there 
was NOTHING in the list!

I OK'd that, and what appeared to be a clean install set-up wizard 
appeared!  I forget how exactly I responded, but it turned out it didn't 
do anything.  (or at least it presented no further "Next" screens)

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#96026

Fromnmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
Date2016-10-26 16:21 -0600
Message-ID<1mvqhco.tq1f6h1t8r8diN%nmassello@yahoo.com>
In reply to#96016
Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

> Someone recently complained that Apple was forcing updates on us.
> 
> Several of us pointed out that it's not forced if you have a choice.
> 
> Well, my NON-admin account was asked if I wanted to install the already
> downloaded update.
> 
> I had ALL checkboxes OFF associated with automation on updates.  The 
> first install of Sierra apparently turned them all on, but at least it
> doesn't do restart installs without asking.

Are you sure it had already been downloaded? IME, if you don't have the
relevant boxes in the pref pane checked, the download does not actually
occur until you click the option in the (somewhat confusing)
notification alert. 


> I turned them all off again, but did the install.  Part way through it
> puts the screen to sleep.  This is dumb, because if someone thinks the
> computer is off, they may push the power button.  No problem (yet) 
> because nothing happens.  But then, if they think it is asleep, and find
> out they can't wake it up, the "solution" is to hold down the button 
> until it turns off.  Which of course seriously breaks the update install.

Pressing the power button ought to wake the screen. It does on my Mac
during normal operation, but I don't know what happens during an OS
install. 

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#96044

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-10-27 00:42 -0500
Message-ID<nus44b$1std$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#96026
On 10-26-2016 17:21, Neill Massello wrote:
> Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>
>> Someone recently complained that Apple was forcing updates on us.
>>
>> Several of us pointed out that it's not forced if you have a choice.
>>
>> Well, my NON-admin account was asked if I wanted to install the already
>> downloaded update.
>>
>> I had ALL checkboxes OFF associated with automation on updates.  The
>> first install of Sierra apparently turned them all on, but at least it
>> doesn't do restart installs without asking.
>
> Are you sure it had already been downloaded? IME, if you don't have the
> relevant boxes in the pref pane checked, the download does not actually
> occur until you click the option in the (somewhat confusing)
> notification alert.

Apparently you didn't read what you quoted.  The 10.12.0 install turned 
on all those boxes.

>> I turned them all off again, but did the install.  Part way through it
>> puts the screen to sleep.  This is dumb, because if someone thinks the
>> computer is off, they may push the power button.  No problem (yet)
>> because nothing happens.  But then, if they think it is asleep, and find
>> out they can't wake it up, the "solution" is to hold down the button
>> until it turns off.  Which of course seriously breaks the update install.
>
> Pressing the power button ought to wake the screen. It does on my Mac
> during normal operation, but I don't know what happens during an OS
> install.

Then why post after I told you nothing happens?

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#96060

Fromnmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
Date2016-10-27 18:16 -0600
Message-ID<1mvsif3.1dpbl59l5kdmmN%nmassello@yahoo.com>
In reply to#96044
Bitchy.Bum <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

> Then why post after I told you nothing happens?

Sorry, I didn't notice that your post was just more pointless bitching.

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#96003

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2016-10-26 22:03 +1300
Message-ID<1mvqy1y.ff5jcw1cw8helN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#96000
Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:

> My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
> want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
> anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
> other boxes.
> 
> Any advice?

The full installer of Sierra on App Store hasn't been updated either -
it is still 10.12.

Maybe wait until about Thursday 12 PM US PDT (1900 UTC).

Apple might be delaying the release of the manual install 10.2.1 update
(and the full 10.12.1 installer) until after the media event on Thursday
announcing new Macs, probably in a failed effort to minimise feature
leaks (given the picture of the new MacBook Pro already leaked via the
App Store installed 10.2.1 update).

If it turns out that they aren't going to release a manual download of
the 10.2.1 update at all, then this post on MacRumors might help - it
has links to manually download the pkg versions of the installers. I
haven't had a close look at them yet so not sure which ones need to be
downloaded.

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sierra-10-12-1-with-bug-fixes-features-for-upcoming-macs.2008928/page-6#post-23773561

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#96004

FromDr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date2016-10-26 14:38 +0200
Message-ID<ce4d4e50-0dae-6069-6f98-6b6314badf5d@lisse.NA>
In reply to#96003
Thank you,

I think the first option is patience :-)-O

el

On 2016-10-26 11:03, David Empson wrote:
> Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
> 
>> My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
>> want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
>> anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
>> other boxes.
>>
>> Any advice?
>
> The full installer of Sierra on App Store hasn't been updated either -
> it is still 10.12.
>
> Maybe wait until about Thursday 12 PM US PDT (1900 UTC).
>
> Apple might be delaying the release of the manual install 10.2.1
> update (and the full 10.12.1 installer) until after the media event on
> Thursday announcing new Macs, probably in a failed effort to minimise
> feature leaks (given the picture of the new MacBook Pro already leaked
> via the App Store installed 10.2.1 update).
>
> If it turns out that they aren't going to release a manual download of
> the 10.2.1 update at all, then this post on MacRumors might help - it
> has links to manually download the pkg versions of the installers. I
> haven't had a close look at them yet so not sure which ones need to be
> downloaded.
> 
> http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sierra-10-12-1-with-bug-fixes-features-for-upcoming-macs.2008928/page-6#post-23773561
> 

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#96056

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2016-10-28 08:26 +1300
Message-ID<1mvtm0r.1o0ocjk8ywdiiN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#96003
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
> 
> > My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
> > want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
> > anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
> > other boxes.
> > 
> > Any advice?
> 
> The full installer of Sierra on App Store hasn't been updated either -
> it is still 10.12.
> 
> Maybe wait until about Thursday 12 PM US PDT (1900 UTC).

The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.

I haven't seen the 10.12.1 delta update via
http://support.apple.com/downloads yet, but that could just be a
distribution delay. Try again in a few hours or tomorrow.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#96061

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2016-10-28 13:30 +1300
Message-ID<1mvtzf1.18jlp8og7c7wN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#96056
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> 
> > Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
> > 
> > > My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
> > > want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
> > > anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
> > > other boxes.
> > > 
> > > Any advice?
> > 
> > The full installer of Sierra on App Store hasn't been updated either -
> > it is still 10.12.
> > 
> > Maybe wait until about Thursday 12 PM US PDT (1900 UTC).
> 
> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
> 
> I haven't seen the 10.12.1 delta update via
> http://support.apple.com/downloads yet, but that could just be a
> distribution delay. Try again in a few hours or tomorrow.

The delta update is available now (for me, others may still be waiting
for distribution to catch up):

http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1897/en_US/macosupd10.12.1.dmg

The associated description page hasn't made it to my distributed server
node yet (404 error):

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1897

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#96080

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-28 15:40 -0400
Message-ID<0bednRPWkt8ONI7FnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#96056
On 2016-10-27 15:26, David Empson wrote:
> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>> Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
>>
>>> My family and I have each a Desktop and a Laptop and I really don't
>>> want to download 500 MB 9 more times. I can't find the usual Download
>>> anywhere, so I can pull it once and then Ethernet or WiFi it to the
>>> other boxes.
>>>
>>> Any advice?
>>
>> The full installer of Sierra on App Store hasn't been updated either -
>> it is still 10.12.
>>
>> Maybe wait until about Thursday 12 PM US PDT (1900 UTC).
>
> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.

Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want 
to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the 
existing version.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96082

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-10-28 15:46 -0400
Message-ID<281020161546595479%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#96080
In article <0bednRPWkt8ONI7FnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> > The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
> > soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
> 
> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want 
> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the 
> existing version.

what's in the app store is always the latest.

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#96084

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-28 15:54 -0400
Message-ID<oKudnaDvgrCcMI7FnZ2dnUU7-b3NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#96082
On 2016-10-28 15:46, nospam wrote:
> In article <0bednRPWkt8ONI7FnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
>>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
>>
>> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
>> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
>> existing version.
>
> what's in the app store is always the latest.

I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the 
whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on 
this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.

Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install 
over the later version.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96086

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-28 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<e7hp25Fs1tcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#96084
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-28 15:46, nospam wrote:
>> In article <0bednRPWkt8ONI7FnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
>>>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
>>> 
>>> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
>>> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
>>> existing version.
>> 
>> what's in the app store is always the latest.
> 
> I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the 
> whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on 
> this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.
> 
> Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install 
> over the later version.

I would just erase the volume, install a fresh operating system, and
restore from backup during when the setup assistant prompts to transfer
data to the new system.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#96093

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-28 16:24 -0400
Message-ID<H5OdnVW90_1_Lo7FnZ2dnUU7-QudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#96086
On 2016-10-28 16:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-28 15:46, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <0bednRPWkt8ONI7FnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
>>>>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
>>>> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
>>>> existing version.
>>>
>>> what's in the app store is always the latest.
>>
>> I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the
>> whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on
>> this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.
>>
>> Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install
>> over the later version.
>
> I would just erase the volume, install a fresh operating system, and
> restore from backup during when the setup assistant prompts to transfer
> data to the new system.

Last resort if I don't get this resolved today.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96158

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-29 16:50 +0000
Message-ID<e7k2a1FdimmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#96093
On 2016-10-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-28 16:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-28 15:46, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <0bednRPWkt8ONI7FnZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
>>>>>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
>>>>> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
>>>>> existing version.
>>>>
>>>> what's in the app store is always the latest.
>>>
>>> I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the
>>> whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on
>>> this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.
>>>
>>> Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install
>>> over the later version.
>>
>> I would just erase the volume, install a fresh operating system, and
>> restore from backup during when the setup assistant prompts to transfer
>> data to the new system.
>
> Last resort if I don't get this resolved today.

It wouldn't be a last resort for me - no need for that.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#96090

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-10-28 16:17 -0400
Message-ID<281020161617265062%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#96084
In article <oKudnaDvgrCcMI7FnZ2dnUU7-b3NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
> >>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
> >>
> >> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
> >> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
> >> existing version.
> >
> > what's in the app store is always the latest.
> 
> I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the 
> whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on 
> this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.
> 
> Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install 
> over the later version.

like i said, what's in the app store is the latest version, and as of
right now, that's 10.12.1. you can't get 10.12.0 anymore from the
store.

for 10.12.0, you would need to have kept a copy (and it sounds like you
did). if so, you may need to delete it (or preferably, keep it, but
move it to where the store can't see it) so that the store lets you
download a new and updated version. then you'll have a 10.12.1
installer.

also note that it is a non-destructive install. installing macos on top
of an existing system will not affect your apps and data already on the
disk.

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#96091

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-28 16:23 -0400
Message-ID<H5OdnVq90_1cLo7FnZ2dnUU7-QvNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#96090
On 2016-10-28 16:17, nospam wrote:
> In article <oKudnaDvgrCcMI7FnZ2dnUU7-b3NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
>>>>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
>>>> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
>>>> existing version.
>>>
>>> what's in the app store is always the latest.
>>
>> I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the
>> whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on
>> this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.
>>
>> Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install
>> over the later version.
>
> like i said, what's in the app store is the latest version, and as of
> right now, that's 10.12.1. you can't get 10.12.0 anymore from the
> store.
>
> for 10.12.0, you would need to have kept a copy (and it sounds like you
> did). if so, you may need to delete it (or preferably, keep it, but
> move it to where the store can't see it) so that the store lets you
> download a new and updated version. then you'll have a 10.12.1
> installer.

The OS is at 10.12.1.  The App Store POS app is not going to "offer" the 
10.12.0 or 10.12.1 full install.  All is well in its tiny mind.

What I will try is to simply re-install from 10.12 that I kept and is on 
an external drive.  (Eg: not make a bootable disk).

> also note that it is a non-destructive install. installing macos on top
> of an existing system will not affect your apps and data already on the
> disk.

That's the point - avoiding a clean install.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
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#96094

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-10-28 16:25 -0400
Message-ID<281020161625123073%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#96091
In article <H5OdnVq90_1cLo7FnZ2dnUU7-QvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>>>> The 10.12.1 full installer is now available in App Store. It appeared
> >>>>> soon after the end of the media event, as I suspected.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a binary for the whole 10.12.1 available for download?  I want
> >>>> to re-install.  Since I'm at 10.12.1 the 10.12 won't install over the
> >>>> existing version.
> >>>
> >>> what's in the app store is always the latest.
> >>
> >> I've already updated to 10.12.1.  I need to do a complete re-install the
> >> whole thing in the hopes of clobbering whatever is affecting Finder on
> >> this machine.  OTOH, I don't want to do a clean install if I can avoid it.
> >>
> >> Re-installing 10.12 doesn't work as the installer refuses to install
> >> over the later version.
> >
> > like i said, what's in the app store is the latest version, and as of
> > right now, that's 10.12.1. you can't get 10.12.0 anymore from the
> > store.
> >
> > for 10.12.0, you would need to have kept a copy (and it sounds like you
> > did). if so, you may need to delete it (or preferably, keep it, but
> > move it to where the store can't see it) so that the store lets you
> > download a new and updated version. then you'll have a 10.12.1
> > installer.
> 
> The OS is at 10.12.1.  The App Store POS app is not going to "offer" the 
> 10.12.0 or 10.12.1 full install.  All is well in its tiny mind.

apparently not, since the app store offers 10.12.1 full install.

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