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Disable Desktop switch animation?

Started byMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
First post2016-10-06 22:18 -0400
Last post2016-10-07 22:03 +0000
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  Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-06 22:18 -0400
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-06 23:29 -0700
      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-10-07 13:23 +0100
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-07 09:37 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-07 16:26 +0000
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:36 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:34 -0500
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:39 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:23 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-08 15:53 -0600
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 17:58 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-09 12:23 +1300
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-08 23:00 -0600
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-09 19:16 +1300
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-09 11:20 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-07 22:06 +0000
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:45 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:29 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:47 +0000
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 12:51 -0400
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 18:45 +0000
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 15:16 -0400
                      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 21:00 +0000
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 19:55 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 08:39 -0700
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 20:43 +0000
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 20:17 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 01:35 +0000
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:14 -0400
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:06 +0000
                      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-10 23:59 -0400
                        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:22 -0400
                          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-13 16:17 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 06:42 +0000
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:20 -0400
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:00 +0000
                      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:05 -0400
                        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-11 05:28 +0000
                          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-13 16:22 -0400
                          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-13 16:24 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-07 19:57 -0700
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 11:39 +0000
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:51 -0400
      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-07 10:41 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 11:38 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-07 17:26 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:15 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-08 21:08 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 10:08 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 08:46 -0700
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:17 -0500
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 14:12 -0700
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 18:40 -0500
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 10:12 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:39 +0000
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 20:27 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-09 11:19 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:06 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-08 21:14 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:27 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:08 +0000
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 10:33 -0400
      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 18:59 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 23:14 +0000
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 23:38 +0000
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 20:51 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 06:44 +0000
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:49 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 12:09 -0400
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:14 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:01 +0000
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 16:37 -0700
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-10 14:35 +1300
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 19:42 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 23:17 -0700
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:55 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 12:09 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:20 -0400
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-07 16:26 +0000
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-07 22:03 +0000

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#95409 — Disable Desktop switch animation?

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-06 22:18 -0400
SubjectDisable Desktop switch animation?
Message-ID<nt70l3$pff$1@dont-email.me>
Is there a way to do that? My son says it makes him sea-sick. Can one 
switch instantly, without motion/animation?
-- 
Malcolm

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#95414

FromMichael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com>
Date2016-10-06 23:29 -0700
Message-ID<mev94303y-9E5D9F.23294506102016@news.individual.net>
In reply to#95409
In article <nt70l3$pff$1@dont-email.me>, MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> 
wrote:

> Is there a way to do that? My son says it makes him sea-sick. Can one 
> switch instantly, without motion/animation?

AFAIK, there's no API to disable the animation.

If it's really an issue, don't use the system that way.  Logout when 
you're done like on Linux.

Or just run Ubuntu on the machine.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#95419

FromCalum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat>
Date2016-10-07 13:23 +0100
Message-ID<nt844o$1pcs$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#95414
On 07/10/2016 07:29, Michael Vilain wrote:
> If it's really an issue, don't use the system that way.  Logout when
> you're done like on Linux.

What does logging out have to do with anything? The OP is asking about 
switching desktops, not users.

In Sierra, you can turn off the animation by checking the "Reduce 
Motion" box in the Accessibility settings, Display tab.

If you don't mind a third-party app, Total Spaces has an option to turn 
off the animation:
<http://totalspaces.binaryage.com>

Otherwise, I think the best you can do is use the three-finger gesture 
to swipe between desktops -- if you do that, the animation speed follows 
the swipe speed, so if you need it to go slower, swipe slower. That's 
obviously a bit of a productivity-killer, though.

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#95420

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-07 09:37 -0400
Message-ID<nt88eq$ebu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95419
On 2016/10/07 8:23 AM, Calum wrote:
> What does logging out have to do with anything? The OP is asking about
> switching desktops, not users.

Thank you.

Yeah, he's on El Cap and so doesn't have those Sierra features. That 
"follow the swipe speed" 'feature' is pretty ridiculous. I mean, what's 
the rationale?

He also figured he shouldn't have to buy a utility to disable a single 
animation. And I agree with him. He's comparing OSX unfavourably with 
his Chromebook, for God's sake. Apple, you can't let things like that 
happen!
-- 
Malcolm

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#95424

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-07 16:26 +0000
Message-ID<e5q0mgFk915U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#95420
MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
> On 2016/10/07 8:23 AM, Calum wrote:
>> What does logging out have to do with anything? The OP is asking about
>> switching desktops, not users.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Yeah, he's on El Cap and so doesn't have those Sierra features. That 
> "follow the swipe speed" 'feature' is pretty ridiculous. I mean, what's 
> the rationale?

One man's trash is another man's treasure. Your son is in the minority
here. Most people don't let something as trivial as a transition animation
rule their user experience. ; )

> He also figured he shouldn't have to buy a utility to disable a single 
> animation. And I agree with him. He's comparing OSX unfavourably with 
> his Chromebook, for God's sake. Apple, you can't let things like that 
> happen!

Not even Apple can fix stupid.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#95448

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 09:36 -0400
Message-ID<ntasnp$ff8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95424
On 2016/10/07 12:26 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Your son is in the minority
> here.

So are persons with disabilities but that doesn't invalidate their 
issues/concerns.

> Most people don't let something as trivial as a transition animation
> rule their user experience.

Yes, most people _aren't_ in the minority. But I was surprised to read 
just how many people there are in that minority who experience 
sea-sickness because of motion in their visual field.

> Not even Apple can fix stupid.

Stupid doesn't even enter into it. They _do_ have Reduce Motion for a 
reason.
-- 
Malcolm

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#95433

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-10-07 14:34 -0500
Message-ID<nt8tbd$1bvj$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#95420
On 10-07-2016 08:37, MalcolmO wrote:
> He also figured he shouldn't have to buy a utility to disable a single
> animation.

He's right.  But what is the value of the time spent complaining about 
something that can be "fixed" by closing your eyes for half a second?

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#95449

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 09:39 -0400
Message-ID<ntast7$g0m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95433
On 2016/10/07 3:34 PM, Happy.Hobo wrote:
> what is the value of the time spent complaining about something that can
> be "fixed" by closing your eyes for half a second?

We won't know until Microsoft sues, claiming they have a patent on that 
remedy. :)
-- 
Malcolm

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#95455

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-08 10:23 -0400
Message-ID<-4OdnYvA16nlnGTKnZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95449
On 2016-10-08 09:39, MalcolmO wrote:
> On 2016/10/07 3:34 PM, Happy.Hobo wrote:
>> what is the value of the time spent complaining about something that can
>> be "fixed" by closing your eyes for half a second?
>
> We won't know until Microsoft sues, claiming they have a patent on that
> remedy. :)

That's why I have a mask over my camera so that MS can't see me doing 
just that.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95471

Fromnmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
Date2016-10-08 15:53 -0600
Message-ID<1mut4ng.vjiuopjm9tmaN%nmassello@yahoo.com>
In reply to#95449
MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:

> We won't know until Microsoft sues, claiming they have a patent on that
> remedy. :)

I have tried for decades to disable user napping, but it never sticks.
Maybe I need a firmware update. 

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#95472

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-08 17:58 -0400
Message-ID<n6adnf1A4NOf8WTKnZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95471
On 2016-10-08 17:53, Neill Massello wrote:
> MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
>> We won't know until Microsoft sues, claiming they have a patent on that
>> remedy. :)
>
> I have tried for decades to disable user napping, but it never sticks.
> Maybe I need a firmware update.
>
They say a 15-20 minute kip in the afternoon does wonders for ones 
health.  I've never developed the ability.  The rare times I nap in the 
afternoon it goes about 2-3 hours and then I'm disoriented for the rest 
of the day.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95475

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2016-10-09 12:23 +1300
Message-ID<091020161223021512%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#95471
In article <1mut4ng.vjiuopjm9tmaN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > We won't know until Microsoft sues, claiming they have a patent on that
> > remedy. :)
> 
> I have tried for decades to disable user napping, but it never sticks.
> Maybe I need a firmware update. 

It requires a combination of hardware and software, and a "User
Hardware Upgrade" to solve that. You have a USB cable that plugs into
the computer at one end and into the user's new "Brain Socket"* at the
other. The software than sends through a power spike through the USB
port every five minutes to make sure the user is still awake.   ;-)



* Patent and trademark pending.

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#95486

Fromnmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello)
Date2016-10-08 23:00 -0600
Message-ID<1mutoyi.1wxst98nbh9acN%nmassello@yahoo.com>
In reply to#95475
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> It requires a combination of hardware and software, and a "User
> Hardware Upgrade" to solve that. You have a USB cable that plugs into
> the computer at one end and into the user's new "Brain Socket"* at the
> other. The software than sends through a power spike through the USB
> port every five minutes to make sure the user is still awake.   ;-)

There's no hope, then. My brain dates from the punch card era. 

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#95487

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2016-10-09 19:16 +1300
Message-ID<091020161916064986%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#95486
In article <1mutoyi.1wxst98nbh9acN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >
> > It requires a combination of hardware and software, and a "User
> > Hardware Upgrade" to solve that. You have a USB cable that plugs into
> > the computer at one end and into the user's new "Brain Socket"* at the
> > other. The software then sends a power spike through the USB port every
> > five minutes to make sure the user is still awake.   ;-)
> 
> There's no hope, then. My brain dates from the punch card era. 

That's why you need the "User Hardware Upgrade" to add a USB port ...
or, you could just get the "Punch Card <-> USB Adapter".  ;-)

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#95497

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-09 11:20 -0400
Message-ID<fsWdnZ317ZOg_WfKnZ2dnUU7-UudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95486
On 2016-10-09 01:00, Neill Massello wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> It requires a combination of hardware and software, and a "User
>> Hardware Upgrade" to solve that. You have a USB cable that plugs into
>> the computer at one end and into the user's new "Brain Socket"* at the
>> other. The software than sends through a power spike through the USB
>> port every five minutes to make sure the user is still awake.   ;-)
>
> There's no hope, then. My brain dates from the punch card era.

You wallowed in the luxury of punch cards?


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95441

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-10-07 22:06 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnvg73m.och.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#95419
In message <nt844o$1pcs$1@gioia.aioe.org> 
  Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:
> On 07/10/2016 07:29, Michael Vilain wrote:
>> If it's really an issue, don't use the system that way.  Logout when
>> you're done like on Linux.

> What does logging out have to do with anything? The OP is asking about 
> switching desktops, not users.

> In Sierra, you can turn off the animation by checking the "Reduce 
> Motion" box in the Accessibility settings, Display tab.

Yep. I don't get motion sickness from switching spaces, but I still like
that setting. Switching seems faster (not sure it is, but it seems
faster).

> If you don't mind a third-party app, Total Spaces has an option to turn 
> off the animation:
> <http://totalspaces.binaryage.com>

Total Spaces requires disabling SIP.

> Otherwise, I think the best you can do is use the three-finger gesture 
> to swipe between desktops -- if you do that, the animation speed follows 
> the swipe speed, so if you need it to go slower, swipe slower. That's 
> obviously a bit of a productivity-killer, though.

Disable the animations and use Mission control... works great!


-- 
There used to be such simple directions, back in the days before they
invented parallel universes - Up and Down, Right and Left, Backward and
Forward, Past and Future... But normal directions don't work in the
multiverse, which has far too many dimensions for anyone to find their
way. So new ones have to be invented so that the way can be found. Like:
East of the Sun, West of the Moon Or: Behind the North Wind. Or: At the
Back of Beyond. Or: There and Back Again. Or: Beyond the Fields We
Know. --Lords and Ladies

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#95450

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 09:45 -0400
Message-ID<ntat9g$hdm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95441
On 2016/10/07 6:06 PM, Lewis wrote:
> Total Spaces requires disabling SIP.

Which is what and results in what?

> Disable the animations and use Mission control... works great!

I suggested that and he said that that is also animated. Plus it takes 
more time. Again, he's already become accustomed to instant, 
non-animated transitions as with his Chromebook or Linux.

I like the animations of macOS myself; I was surprised to discover that 
some people's neurology makes it unacceptable. My son says his 
development sessions can't go more than about an hour.
-- 
Malcolm

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#95456

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-08 10:29 -0400
Message-ID<6qadnYoLyKsxn2TKnZ2dnUU7-TfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95450
On 2016-10-08 09:45, MalcolmO wrote:
> On 2016/10/07 6:06 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> Total Spaces requires disabling SIP.
>
> Which is what and results in what?

System Integrity Protection.  Apple made a wise decision that Unix' 
underpinnings had some fundamental weaknesses with root access and 
decided to shore them up hard in effect distancing "root" from total 
control of the system.

I don't know if TS does require disabling SIP (too lazy too look into 
it), but disabling SIP for the small benefit of TS is not a good idea (IMO).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Integrity_Protection

>
>> Disable the animations and use Mission control... works great!
>
> I suggested that and he said that that is also animated. Plus it takes
> more time. Again, he's already become accustomed to instant,
> non-animated transitions as with his Chromebook or Linux.
>
> I like the animations of macOS myself; I was surprised to discover that
> some people's neurology makes it unacceptable. My son says his
> development sessions can't go more than about an hour.

I'd be just as happy if such animations were eliminated (optionally or 
otherwise).

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95460

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-08 15:47 +0000
Message-ID<e5sip7F8a6dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#95456
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-08 09:45, MalcolmO wrote:
>> On 2016/10/07 6:06 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>> Total Spaces requires disabling SIP.
>> 
>> Which is what and results in what?
> 
> System Integrity Protection.  Apple made a wise decision that Unix' 
> underpinnings had some fundamental weaknesses with root access and 
> decided to shore them up hard in effect distancing "root" from total 
> control of the system.
> 
> I don't know if TS does require disabling SIP (too lazy too look into 
> it), but disabling SIP for the small benefit of TS is not a good idea (IMO).
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Integrity_Protection

It may be that you can disable SIP just long enough to get TF installed,
and then re-enable SIP after.

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#95462

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-08 12:51 -0400
Message-ID<2_KdnYRvbJppvmTKnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95460
On 2016-10-08 11:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-08 09:45, MalcolmO wrote:
>>> On 2016/10/07 6:06 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>>> Total Spaces requires disabling SIP.
>>>
>>> Which is what and results in what?
>>
>> System Integrity Protection.  Apple made a wise decision that Unix'
>> underpinnings had some fundamental weaknesses with root access and
>> decided to shore them up hard in effect distancing "root" from total
>> control of the system.
>>
>> I don't know if TS does require disabling SIP (too lazy too look into
>> it), but disabling SIP for the small benefit of TS is not a good idea (IMO).
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Integrity_Protection
>
> It may be that you can disable SIP just long enough to get TF installed,
> and then re-enable SIP after.

Could be.  Are there other apps that can be installed with SIP disabled 
and then run SIP enabled?


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