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A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X?

Started byAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
First post2014-08-16 16:59 -0700
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  A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 16:59 -0700
    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 17:20 -0700
      Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 17:34 -0700
        Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-08-16 17:57 -0700
          Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 18:40 -0700
            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-16 21:44 -0400
              Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 18:57 -0700
                Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-17 14:38 +0000
                  Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 08:52 -0700
                    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-17 17:27 +0000
                      Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 11:39 -0700
                  Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2014-08-18 16:59 -0500
                    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-19 01:09 +0000
          Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-17 04:27 +0000
            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 00:35 -0700
            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-17 15:25 +0000
              Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 08:55 -0700
                Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 11:43 -0700
                  Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-17 20:39 +0000
                    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 14:08 -0700
                  Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-17 21:49 +0000
    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-16 20:29 -0400
      Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 17:36 -0700
        Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-16 20:43 -0400
          Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 18:41 -0700
            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-16 21:44 -0400
              Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 19:02 -0700
                Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-08-16 19:27 -0700
                  Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 20:03 -0700
                Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-18 15:19 +0200
                  Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2014-08-18 17:00 -0500
                    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-19 06:45 +0200
                      Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-18 23:16 -0700
                        Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-19 08:55 +0200
                          Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-19 02:31 -0700
                            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-19 12:11 +0200
                              Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? (OT) ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2014-08-19 19:39 -0500
            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-17 14:28 +1200
            Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-17 03:18 +0000
              Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2014-08-18 17:16 -0500
                Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-19 01:11 +0000
      Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2014-08-16 21:41 -0700
        Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-17 00:47 -0400
    Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-16 20:05 -0700
      Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-17 04:24 +0000
        Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-17 00:38 -0700

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#63278 — A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X?

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-16 16:59 -0700
SubjectA free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X?
Message-ID<lsKdnc8t-dbsbXLOnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
Hello.

I used to use old SMARTreporter in Mac OS X 10.5.8, but it is not 
freeware anymore for v3.x. I am trying to find a replacement for Mac OS 
X 10.8.5.

Currently, I am trying to figure out if this old external USB2 Seagate 
500 GB HDD is going bad since it failed to mount its MacFS partition 
drive (FAT32 partition drive mounted fine). I am currently running Mac 
OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility to repair it, and it is taking forever 
(wished it had technical texts or something to tell me what is going 
on). That doesn't sound good so far. :(

I am still surprised that 
http://gsmartcontrol.sourceforge.net/home/index.php/Downloads does not 
have a compiled binary file for Mac OS X. Does a free one GUI SMART 
program exist today?

Thank you in advance. :)
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#63279 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-16 17:20 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<N9CdnUA5wfvWaHLOnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63278
On 8/16/2014 4:59 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Currently, I am trying to figure out if this old external USB2 Seagate
> 500 GB HDD is going bad since it failed to mount its MacFS partition
> drive (FAT32 partition drive mounted fine). I am currently running Mac
> OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility to repair it, and it is taking forever
> (wished it had technical texts or something to tell me what is going
> on). That doesn't sound good so far. :(

FYI. Mac OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility said it couldn't repair and told me 
to back up data, but I could not if I could not access its partition 
drive! So, I decided to format that partition drive and recheck since it 
is for Time Machine. It was fine. Now, I am doing a 125 GB backup from 
13.3" MacBook Pro. Although, it seems slow. Hmm!
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#63281 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-16 17:34 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<du-dnfJGwr42ZXLOnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63279
On 8/16/2014 5:20 PM PT, Ant typed:

>> Currently, I am trying to figure out if this old external USB2 Seagate
>> 500 GB HDD is going bad since it failed to mount its MacFS partition
>> drive (FAT32 partition drive mounted fine). I am currently running Mac
>> OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility to repair it, and it is taking forever
>> (wished it had technical texts or something to tell me what is going
>> on). That doesn't sound good so far. :(
>
> FYI. Mac OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility said it couldn't repair and told me
> to back up data, but I could not if I could not access its partition
> drive! So, I decided to format that partition drive and recheck since it
> is for Time Machine. It was fine. Now, I am doing a 125 GB backup from
> 13.3" MacBook Pro. Although, it seems slow. Hmm!

Here's Disk Utility's log FYI:
...
**********
2014-08-16 16:20:38 -0700: Disk Utility started.

2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Verifying volume “MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”
2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Starting verification tool:
2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 16:20:52 
-0700: Error: This disk needs to be repaired. Click Repair 
Disk.2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700:
2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Disk Utility stopped verifying 
“MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”: This disk needs to be repaired. Click 
Repair Disk.
2014-08-16 16:21:23 -0700:

2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Verify and Repair volume 
“MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”
2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Starting repair tool:
2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 16:21:28 
-0700: Volume repair complete.2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Updating boot 
support partitions for the volume as required.2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700: 
Error: Disk Utility can’t repair this disk. Back up as many of your 
files as possible, reformat the disk, and restore your backed-up 
files.2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:
2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700: Disk Utility stopped repairing 
“MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”: Disk Utility can’t repair this disk. 
Back up as many of your files as possible, reformat the disk, and 
restore your backed-up files.
2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:

2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: Preparing to erase : 
“MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”
2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 	Partition Scheme: GUID Partition Table
2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 	1 volume will be erased
2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		Name		: “MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”
2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		Size		: 250.05 GB
2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		File system	: Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: Unmounting disk
2014-08-16 17:07:21 -0700: Erasing
2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Initialized /dev/rdisk1s2 as a 233 GB HFS 
Plus volume with a 24576k journal

2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Mounting disk
2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Erase complete.
2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700:
**********
2014-08-16 17:08:40 -0700: Disk Utility started.

2014-08-16 17:09:00 -0700: Verifying volume “MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles”
2014-08-16 17:09:00 -0700: Starting verification tool:
2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 17:09:01 
-0700: Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking extents overflow file.
2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking catalog file.
2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking multi-linked files.
2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking catalog hierarchy.
2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking extended attributes file.
2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Checking volume bitmap.
2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Checking volume information.
2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: The volume MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles 
appears to be OK.
2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Repair tool completed:
2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700:
2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700:
...

Back up is sure slow (17.5 GB out of 126.1 GB now). :/
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#63285 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2014-08-16 17:57 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<vilain-97D62B.17575716082014@news.individual.net>
In reply to#63281
In article <du-dnfJGwr42ZXLOnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 8/16/2014 5:20 PM PT, Ant typed:
> 
> >> Currently, I am trying to figure out if this old external USB2 Seagate
> >> 500 GB HDD is going bad since it failed to mount its MacFS partition
> >> drive (FAT32 partition drive mounted fine). I am currently running Mac
> >> OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility to repair it, and it is taking forever
> >> (wished it had technical texts or something to tell me what is going
> >> on). That doesn't sound good so far. :(
> >
> > FYI. Mac OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility said it couldn't repair and told me
> > to back up data, but I could not if I could not access its partition
> > drive! So, I decided to format that partition drive and recheck since it
> > is for Time Machine. It was fine. Now, I am doing a 125 GB backup from
> > 13.3" MacBook Pro. Although, it seems slow. Hmm!
> 
> Here's Disk Utility's log FYI:
> ...
> **********
> 2014-08-16 16:20:38 -0700: Disk Utility started.
> 
> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Verifying volume ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Starting verification tool:
> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 16:20:52 
> -0700: Error: This disk needs to be repaired. Click Repair 
> Disk.2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700:
> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Disk Utility stopped verifying 
> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²: This disk needs to be repaired. Click 
> Repair Disk.
> 2014-08-16 16:21:23 -0700:
> 
> 2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Verify and Repair volume 
> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
> 2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Starting repair tool:
> 2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 16:21:28 
> -0700: Volume repair complete.2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Updating boot 
> support partitions for the volume as required.2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700: 
> Error: Disk Utility can¹t repair this disk. Back up as many of your 
> files as possible, reformat the disk, and restore your backed-up 
> files.2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:
> 2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700: Disk Utility stopped repairing 
> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²: Disk Utility can¹t repair this disk. 
> Back up as many of your files as possible, reformat the disk, and 
> restore your backed-up files.
> 2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:
> 
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: Preparing to erase : 
> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 	Partition Scheme: GUID Partition Table
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 	1 volume will be erased
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		Name		: ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		Size		: 250.05 GB
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		File system	: Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
> 
> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: Unmounting disk
> 2014-08-16 17:07:21 -0700: Erasing
> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Initialized /dev/rdisk1s2 as a 233 GB HFS 
> Plus volume with a 24576k journal
> 
> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Mounting disk
> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Erase complete.
> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700:
> **********
> 2014-08-16 17:08:40 -0700: Disk Utility started.
> 
> 2014-08-16 17:09:00 -0700: Verifying volume ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
> 2014-08-16 17:09:00 -0700: Starting verification tool:
> 2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 17:09:01 
> -0700: Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking extents overflow file.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking catalog file.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking multi-linked files.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking catalog hierarchy.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking extended attributes file.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Checking volume bitmap.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Checking volume information.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: The volume MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles 
> appears to be OK.
> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Repair tool completed:
> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700:
> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700:
> ...
> 
> Back up is sure slow (17.5 GB out of 126.1 GB now). :/

Slow backup probably means the drive is failing. Since you already 
destroyed the data on the Mac partition, I get whatever else is on the 
FAT partition and replace it.  It's on it's way out.

Then again, hammering it with backups will make it fail all that much 
faster.

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#63287 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-16 18:40 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<9dOdnSaEGMtmmm3OnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63285
On 8/16/2014 5:57 PM PT, Michael Vilain typed:

> In article <du-dnfJGwr42ZXLOnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>   Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>> On 8/16/2014 5:20 PM PT, Ant typed:
>>
>>>> Currently, I am trying to figure out if this old external USB2 Seagate
>>>> 500 GB HDD is going bad since it failed to mount its MacFS partition
>>>> drive (FAT32 partition drive mounted fine). I am currently running Mac
>>>> OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility to repair it, and it is taking forever
>>>> (wished it had technical texts or something to tell me what is going
>>>> on). That doesn't sound good so far. :(
>>>
>>> FYI. Mac OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility said it couldn't repair and told me
>>> to back up data, but I could not if I could not access its partition
>>> drive! So, I decided to format that partition drive and recheck since it
>>> is for Time Machine. It was fine. Now, I am doing a 125 GB backup from
>>> 13.3" MacBook Pro. Although, it seems slow. Hmm!
>>
>> Here's Disk Utility's log FYI:
>> ...
>> **********
>> 2014-08-16 16:20:38 -0700: Disk Utility started.
>>
>> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Verifying volume ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
>> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Starting verification tool:
>> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 16:20:52
>> -0700: Error: This disk needs to be repaired. Click Repair
>> Disk.2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700:
>> 2014-08-16 16:20:52 -0700: Disk Utility stopped verifying
>> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²: This disk needs to be repaired. Click
>> Repair Disk.
>> 2014-08-16 16:21:23 -0700:
>>
>> 2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Verify and Repair volume
>> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
>> 2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Starting repair tool:
>> 2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 16:21:28
>> -0700: Volume repair complete.2014-08-16 16:21:28 -0700: Updating boot
>> support partitions for the volume as required.2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:
>> Error: Disk Utility can¹t repair this disk. Back up as many of your
>> files as possible, reformat the disk, and restore your backed-up
>> files.2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:
>> 2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700: Disk Utility stopped repairing
>> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²: Disk Utility can¹t repair this disk.
>> Back up as many of your files as possible, reformat the disk, and
>> restore your backed-up files.
>> 2014-08-16 17:02:22 -0700:
>>
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: Preparing to erase :
>> ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 	Partition Scheme: GUID Partition Table
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 	1 volume will be erased
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		Name		: ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		Size		: 250.05 GB
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: 		File system	: Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
>>
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:20 -0700: Unmounting disk
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:21 -0700: Erasing
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Initialized /dev/rdisk1s2 as a 233 GB HFS
>> Plus volume with a 24576k journal
>>
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Mounting disk
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700: Erase complete.
>> 2014-08-16 17:07:29 -0700:
>> **********
>> 2014-08-16 17:08:40 -0700: Disk Utility started.
>>
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:00 -0700: Verifying volume ³MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles²
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:00 -0700: Starting verification tool:
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking file system2014-08-16 17:09:01
>> -0700: Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking extents overflow file.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:01 -0700: Checking catalog file.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking multi-linked files.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking catalog hierarchy.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:05 -0700: Checking extended attributes file.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Checking volume bitmap.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Checking volume information.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: The volume MacsOnlyAndBackupsWithBigFiles
>> appears to be OK.
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700: Repair tool completed:
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700:
>> 2014-08-16 17:09:11 -0700:
>> ...
>>
>> Back up is sure slow (17.5 GB out of 126.1 GB now). :/
>
> Slow backup probably means the drive is failing. Since you already
> destroyed the data on the Mac partition, I get whatever else is on the
> FAT partition and replace it.  It's on it's way out.

Well, it is almost done now. Three/3 minutes left. I wished there was an 
easy to way to check the disk like its SMART status. Bah.


> Then again, hammering it with backups will make it fail all that much
> faster.

Funny, I only back up usually once a week! :O
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#63289 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-08-16 21:44 -0400
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<160820142144020489%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#63287
In article <9dOdnSaEGMtmmm3OnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> Well, it is almost done now. Three/3 minutes left. I wished there was an 
> easy to way to check the disk like its SMART status. Bah.

smart doesn't tell you much, although if it says it's bad, it's almost
certainly bad. if it doesn't say anything, you don't know if it is fine
or will suddenly fail tomorrow.

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#63291 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-16 18:57 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<V66dnVF6wbq4kW3OnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63289
On 8/16/2014 6:44 PM PT, nospam typed:

> smart doesn't tell you much, although if it says it's bad, it's almost
> certainly bad. if it doesn't say anything, you don't know if it is fine
> or will suddenly fail tomorrow.

That sucks. :(

Anyways, the full Time Machine back up (finish/complet)ed. I even tried 
(eject/unmount)ing both drives, physically disconnecting, and 
reconnecting to do another Time Machine backup (tiny). It had no 
problems. I am curious what the frak happened to make the HDD's Mac 
partition drive unreadable. The last time I connected the HDD was last 
week's Saturday to do a big (1 GB?) Time Machine backup. Is this related 
to that Time Machine getting corrupted that was mentioned a while back?
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#63317 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-08-17 14:38 +0000
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<lsqeok$1gb$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#63291
In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:

> I am curious what the frak happened to make the HDD's Mac 
> partition drive unreadable.

Most likely some problem (bug) in the filesystem.  You'd
have to ask someone like Al Whipple (author of DiskWarrior)
if you wanted accurate info on all the things that can go
wrong.

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#63319 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-17 08:52 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<N6GdnXIy-NcuUm3OnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63317
On 8/17/2014 7:38 AM PT, billy@MIX.COM typed:

> In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>
>> I am curious what the frak happened to make the HDD's Mac
>> partition drive unreadable.
>
> Most likely some problem (bug) in the filesystem.  You'd
> have to ask someone like Al Whipple (author of DiskWarrior)
> if you wanted accurate info on all the things that can go
> wrong.

It sounds like a known issue? If so, then is it online somewhere to read 
about it?
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#63323 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-08-17 17:27 +0000
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<lsqomb$fko$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#63319
In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote, quoting me:

> > Most likely some problem (bug) in the filesystem.  You'd
> > have to ask someone like Al Whipple (author of DiskWarrior)
> > if you wanted accurate info on all the things that can go
> > wrong.
> 
> It sounds like a known issue? If so, then is it online somewhere
> to read about it?

There is some info in comp.sys.mac.system, which includes
mentioning this -

The state of the file system
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/

Digging up Alsoft's patent application(s), if they're
available, would probably be enlightening, too.

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#63331 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-17 11:39 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<Y5adnbOzsKl-a23OnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63323
On 8/17/2014 10:27 AM PT, billy@MIX.COM typed:

>>> Most likely some problem (bug) in the filesystem.  You'd
>>> have to ask someone like Al Whipple (author of DiskWarrior)
>>> if you wanted accurate info on all the things that can go
>>> wrong.
>>
>> It sounds like a known issue? If so, then is it online somewhere
>> to read about it?
>
> There is some info in comp.sys.mac.system, which includes
> mentioning this -
>
> The state of the file system
> http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/
>
> Digging up Alsoft's patent application(s), if they're
> available, would probably be enlightening, too.

Thanks! That's scary and a very old issue. :(
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#63357 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
Date2014-08-18 16:59 -0500
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<vfidnfXQMZTd6m_OnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63317
> > I am curious what the frak happened to make the HDD's Mac 
> > partition drive unreadable.

> Most likely some problem (bug) in the filesystem.  You'd
> have to ask someone like Al Whipple (author of DiskWarrior)
> if you wanted accurate info on all the things that can go
> wrong.

I contacted someone (not Al) from DiskWarrior team and got this e-mail 
re(ply/sponse):

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:33:37 -0500
From: Alsoft Technical Support <tech.support@alsoft.com>
To: Ant...
Subject: Re: Mac FS bugs?
X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 6.1 build 4643 English (intel)
        <http://www.ctmdev.com>

A partition map can become unreadable due to bad blocks on the drive 
(causing part of the partition map to be unreadable), an improperly 
ejected/disconnected drive at which point data is mistakenly written 
over the partition map, or a malfunctioning drive chassis which causes 
the partition map to be overwritten. Further, a utility that live 
partitions or reformats a drive can also write an incorrect partition 
map.

-- Marc


As you can see, he never mentioned a MacFS. :/
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#63362 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-08-19 01:09 +0000
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<c5fmf2Fnn3iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#63357
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.mac.apps.]
On 2014-08-18, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>
> I contacted someone (not Al) from DiskWarrior team and got this e-mail 
> re(ply/sponse):
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:33:37 -0500
> From: Alsoft Technical Support <tech.support@alsoft.com>
> To: Ant...
> Subject: Re: Mac FS bugs?
> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 6.1 build 4643 English (intel)
>         <http://www.ctmdev.com>
>
> A partition map can become unreadable due to bad blocks on the drive 
> (causing part of the partition map to be unreadable), an improperly 
> ejected/disconnected drive at which point data is mistakenly written 
> over the partition map, or a malfunctioning drive chassis which causes 
> the partition map to be overwritten. Further, a utility that live 
> partitions or reformats a drive can also write an incorrect partition 
> map.
>
> -- Marc
>
>
> As you can see, he never mentioned a MacFS. :/

So? He's not wrong about anything he said. As I recall, this is a USB
drive, is it not? It's entirely possible (perhaps even probable) that a
disruption in USB connectivity caused the corruption you experienced.

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#63307 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-08-17 04:27 +0000
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<lspavv$ktq$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#63285
In comp.sys.mac.system Michael Vilain <vilain@nospamcop.net> wrote:

> Slow backup probably means the drive is failing.

Looking at the media defect management (bad block replacement) stats
would be useful.  Maybe they're in the data alrady posted (probably
not, though).

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#63311 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-17 00:35 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<vtmdnYQ_ZqWoxm3OnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63307
On 8/16/2014 9:27 PM PT, billy@MIX.COM typed:

>> Slow backup probably means the drive is failing.
>
> Looking at the media defect management (bad block replacement) stats
> would be useful.  Maybe they're in the data alrady posted (probably
> not, though).

Where could I find that to share?
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#63318 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-08-17 15:25 +0000
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<lsqhgi$s91$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#63307
> Looking at the media defect management (bad block replacement) stats
> would be useful.

This doesn't look so bad -

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME             FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH
 5  Reallocated_Sector_Count   0x0033   100   100   036

Nor does this -

 1  Raw_Read_Error_Rate        0x000f   118   099   006

So... You probably got hit by some HFS+ bug.

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#63320 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-17 08:55 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<SZmdnWLXUu8ZTW3OnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63318
On 8/17/2014 8:25 AM PT, billy@MIX.COM typed:

>> Looking at the media defect management (bad block replacement) stats
>> would be useful.
>
> This doesn't look so bad -
>
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME             FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH
>   5  Reallocated_Sector_Count   0x0033   100   100   036
>
> Nor does this -
>
>   1  Raw_Read_Error_Rate        0x000f   118   099   006
>
> So... You probably got hit by some HFS+ bug.

Interesting. I'd like to know about bug. I assume it can happen with 
internal drives too?

FYI, I ran the (lat/new)est SeaTools for Windows overnight on this HDD 
and it passed most tests. I didn't run its Advanced one that could lose 
data (will try it later on if I run into problems again).
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#63332 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-17 11:43 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<n8GdndKw19Eqam3OnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63320
On 8/17/2014 8:55 AM PT, Ant typed:

>>> Looking at the media defect management (bad block replacement) stats
>>> would be useful.
>>
>> This doesn't look so bad -
>>
>> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME             FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH
>>   5  Reallocated_Sector_Count   0x0033   100   100   036
>>
>> Nor does this -
>>
>>   1  Raw_Read_Error_Rate        0x000f   118   099   006
>>
>> So... You probably got hit by some HFS+ bug.
>
> Interesting. I'd like to know about bug. I assume it can happen with
> internal drives too?
>
> FYI, I ran the (lat/new)est SeaTools for Windows overnight on this HDD
> and it passed most tests. I didn't run its Advanced one that could lose
> data (will try it later on if I run into problems again).

I decided to try advanced tools for kicks, but it gave me "USB Erase 
tracks" and "Firmware Update" options. Um, no thanks to erasing unless 
the HDD is having serious issues which I don't see after formatting and 
doing a full Time Machine backup yesterday. No newer firmware found too.

Also, I tried 
http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/item/seagate-diag-mac-master/ 
but it didn't work in Mac OS X 10.5.8 (doesn't see the drive at all). I 
noticed the web page says 10.4.11.x. That's pretty old. I guess it is 
incompatible? How do I could not find a way to remove the software 
beside throwing its .app into trash can, and it added something to cause 
a reboot to update its cache. :(
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#63335 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-08-17 20:39 +0000
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<lsr3u5$kcg$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#63332
In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:

> http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/item/seagate-diag-mac-master/ 

> How do I could not find a way to remove the software beside
> throwing its .app into trash can, and it added something to
> cause a reboot to update its cache. :(

Go to /System/Library/Extensions and delete these two drivers -

  MaxtorPowSecDriver.kext
  SeagatePowSecDriver.kext

You should also look in /tmp/drvrinstall and if you see copies
there, delete those as well.  If you even see the directory...

Then reboot.  I don't think you can unload drivers on a live
OS X system.

Besdies the application itself (Seagate Diagnostics.app) there
is probably a preferences file for it, too.

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#63339 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-08-17 14:08 -0700
SubjectRe: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID<IM-dnbb4g-BShGzOnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#63335
On 8/17/2014 1:39 PM PT, billy@MIX.COM typed:

 >> http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/item/seagate-diag-mac-master/
>
>> How do I could not find a way to remove the software beside
>> throwing its .app into trash can, and it added something to
>> cause a reboot to update its cache. :(
>
> Go to /System/Library/Extensions and delete these two drivers -
>
>    MaxtorPowSecDriver.kext

Did not see this one.

>    SeagatePowSecDriver.kext

Deleted it.


> You should also look in /tmp/drvrinstall and if you see copies
> there, delete those as well.  If you even see the directory...

Not there.


> Then reboot.  I don't think you can unload drivers on a live
> OS X system.
>
> Besdies the application itself (Seagate Diagnostics.app) there
> is probably a preferences file for it, too.

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