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Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!

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  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-22 13:59 +0000
    Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-22 15:36 +0100
      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-22 16:52 +0000
        Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-22 17:56 +0100
          Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-22 17:01 +0000
            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-22 22:14 +0100
              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-22 23:10 +0000
                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-23 09:20 +0100
                  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 14:31 +0000
                    Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-23 17:04 +0100
                      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 16:09 +0000
                        Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-23 18:16 +0100
                          Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 20:16 +0000
                            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 00:04 +0100
                              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 23:11 +0000
                                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 00:21 +0100
                                  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 00:05 +0000
                                    Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 10:15 +0100
                                      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-08-24 13:39 +0000
                                      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 15:50 +0000
                                        Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 17:37 +0100
                                          Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 19:11 +0000
                                            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 21:38 +0100
                                              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 22:03 +0000
                                                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 23:28 +0100
                                                  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-25 01:36 +0000
                                      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! You're Kidding <yk@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-25 22:41 +0000
                                        Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-26 00:08 +0100
                            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 00:32 +0100
                              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 00:04 +0000
                                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 08:43 +0100
                                  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 15:46 +0000
                                    Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 19:25 +0100
                                      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 18:59 +0000
                                        Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 21:50 +0100
                                          Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 22:01 +0000
                                            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 23:29 +0100
                                              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-25 01:36 +0000
                                                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-25 23:26 +0100
                                            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-25 23:25 +0100
                                              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-25 23:11 +0000
                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 00:04 +0100
                  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 23:13 +0000
                    Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-24 08:24 +0100
                      Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-24 15:43 +0000
          Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-08-22 11:02 -0600
            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-22 19:51 +0100
        Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-08-27 15:46 -0400
          Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-27 20:01 +0000
            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-27 21:31 +0100
              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-27 20:37 +0000
                Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-27 21:44 +0100
                  Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-27 21:02 +0000
            Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-08-27 16:15 -0600
              Re: Why? - EXPLANATION! Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-27 23:12 +0000

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#144600 — Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-22 13:59 +0000
SubjectRe: Why? - EXPLANATION!
Message-ID<66c7444d$0$212407$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:


Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.

Context?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144601

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-22 15:36 +0100
Message-ID<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144600
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
> 
> Data could not be decoded.
> Data could not be decoded.

Any idea why?

> Context?

Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-

https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png

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#144606

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-22 16:52 +0000
Message-ID<66c76cc8$1$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144601
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>> 
>> Data could not be decoded.
>> Data could not be decoded.
> 
> Any idea why?
> 
>> Context?
> 
> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
> 
> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png

You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144607

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-22 17:56 +0100
Message-ID<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144606
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>
>> Any idea why?
>>
>>> Context?
>>
>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
> 
> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.

Really?

Please cite

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#144608

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-22 17:01 +0000
Message-ID<66c76ed8$0$2757$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144607
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>> 
>>> Any idea why?
>>> 
>>>> Context?
>>> 
>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>> 
>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>> 
>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
> 
> Really?
> 
> Please cite

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144617

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-22 22:14 +0100
Message-ID<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144608
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>
>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>
>>>>> Context?
>>>>
>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>
>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>
>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Please cite


No MID?

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#144620

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-22 23:10 +0000
Message-ID<66c7c564$7$3162475$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144617
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Context?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>> 
>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>> 
>>> Really?
>>> 
>>> Please cite
> 
> 
> No MID?

Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.

  Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>

Sorry it did not come through the first time.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144622

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-23 09:20 +0100
Message-ID<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144620
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>
>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> Please cite
>>
>>
>> No MID?
> 
> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
> 
>    Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
> 
> Sorry it did not come through the first time.

OK

That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!

*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.

There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think 
there was?)

Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the 
question on the ASC - was actually me.

There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!

Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.

Thanks.

-- 
David

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#144636

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-23 14:31 +0000
Message-ID<66c89d3f$0$1895498$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144622
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Really?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please cite
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No MID?
>> 
>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>> 
>>    Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>> 
>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
> 
> OK
> 
> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
> 
> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
> 
> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
> there was?)
> 
> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
> question on the ASC - was actually me.
> 
> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!

You quoted where they said you should not.
> 
> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.

I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
> 
> Thanks.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144637

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-23 17:04 +0100
Message-ID<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144636
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No MID?
>>>
>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>
>>>     Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>
>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>
>> OK
>>
>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>
>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>
>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>> there was?)
>>
>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>
>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
> 
> You quoted where they said you should not.

I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!

I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.

>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
> 
> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
> handle people who do not respect their rules.

How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the 
ASC forums?

They make up their own rules, Snit.

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#144638

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-23 16:09 +0000
Message-ID<66c8b42a$0$5671$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144637
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> No MID?
>>>> 
>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>> 
>>>>     Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>> 
>>> OK
>>> 
>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>> 
>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>> 
>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>> there was?)
>>> 
>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>> 
>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>> 
>> You quoted where they said you should not.
> 
> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
> 
> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.

They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.

> 
>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>> 
>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
> 
> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
> ASC forums?

OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
> 
> They make up their own rules, Snit.

Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?

https://discussions.apple.com/terms

-- 
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144641

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-23 18:16 +0100
Message-ID<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144638
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>
>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>
>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>
>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>> there was?)
>>>>
>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>
>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>
>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>
>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>
>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
> 
> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.

I really do wish you would pay proper attention.

>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>
>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>
>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>> ASC forums?
> 
> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.

I didn't ask you to harass Apple.

>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
> 
> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/terms

Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.

Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.

If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!

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#144643

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-23 20:16 +0000
Message-ID<66c8ee39$0$1428226$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144641
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:

> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>      Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK
>>>>> 
>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>> 
>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>> there was?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>> 
>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>> 
>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>> 
>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>> 
>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
> 
> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.

You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
there.
> 
>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>> 
>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>> ASC forums?
>> 
>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
> 
> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.

You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
> 
>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>> 
>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>> 
>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
> 
> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
> 
> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
> 
> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!

They oversee it, surely.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144647

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-24 00:04 +0100
Message-ID<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144643
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>
>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>
>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>
>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>
>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>
>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
> 
> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
> there.

Who has told you that?

>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>
>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>> ASC forums?
>>>
>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>
>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
> 
> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
> not be appropriate.

That is not correct.

I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the 
ASC forums.

>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>
>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>
>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>
>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>
>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
> 
> They oversee it, surely.

I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?

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#144649

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-23 23:11 +0000
Message-ID<66c91713$0$1427989$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144647
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>       Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>> 
>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>> 
>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>> 
>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>> there.
> 
> Who has told you that?
> 
>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>> 
>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>> 
>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>> 
>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>> not be appropriate.
> 
> That is not correct.
> 
> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
> ASC forums.

Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
OK. This is all so weird.

> 
>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>> 
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>> 
>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>> 
>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>> 
>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>> 
>> They oversee it, surely.
> 
> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?

Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144653

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-24 00:21 +0100
Message-ID<lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144649
On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>
>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>
>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>> there.
>>
>> Who has told you that?
>>
>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>
>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>> not be appropriate.
>>
>> That is not correct.
>>
>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>> ASC forums.
> 
> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
> OK. This is all so weird.

Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one - 
in order to access the ASC forums?

>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>
>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>
>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>
>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>
>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
> 
> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.

To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)

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#144658

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-24 00:05 +0000
Message-ID<66c923c7$0$1788$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144653
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:

> On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>> 
>>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Who has told you that?
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>> 
>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>> not be appropriate.
>>> 
>>> That is not correct.
>>> 
>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>> ASC forums.
>> 
>> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
>> OK. This is all so weird.
> 
> Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
> in order to access the ASC forums?

I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
was OK.
> 
>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>> 
>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>> 
>> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
> 
> To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)

I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#144665

FromDavid Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-08-24 10:15 +0100
Message-ID<litmlmFajmaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#144658
On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Who has told you that?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>>> not be appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> That is not correct.
>>>>
>>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>>> ASC forums.
>>>
>>> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
>>> OK. This is all so weird.
>>
>> Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
>> in order to access the ASC forums?
> 
> I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
> was OK.

Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.

>>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>>>
>>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>>>
>>> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
>>
>> To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
> 
> I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
> for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.

THEY have described my behaviour in that way.

That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!

Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
here in my Usenet group?

Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)

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#144667

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2024-08-24 13:39 +0000
Message-ID<vacnr3$1d11s$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144665
On 2024-08-24, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>>>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who has told you that?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>>>> not be appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>>>> ASC forums.
>>>>
>>>> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
>>>> OK. This is all so weird.
>>>
>>> Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
>>> in order to access the ASC forums?
>> 
>> I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
>> was OK.
>
> Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.

That's on them.
Any personal information can be a security risk.


>>>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>>>>
>>>> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
>>>
>>> To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
>> 
>> I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
>> for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
>
> THEY have described my behaviour in that way.

You must have done something to provoke those type of comments.

> That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
> folk there don't like that.
> SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!

If it's a moderated forum get used to it.
The little time I have spent in Apple fora I find them to be way too fanboy like for me. People who 
post about issues with Apple or their products tend to get ignored or accused of being trolls. It's 
all very cult like IMHO. Apple is their God.


> Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
> here in my Usenet group?

snit is persona non grata everywhere he goes so I doubt it will bother him in the least.

> Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)

Doubtful.

-- 
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024
Lifetime Member of "The Prescott Parasite Eradication Team"
Ask snit how he pissed on his cat. 
All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html

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#144671

FromSnit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2024-08-24 15:50 +0000
Message-ID<66ca012c$1$2759$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#144665
On Aug 24, 2024 at 2:15:34 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<litmlmFajmaU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>>>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>>>>> there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who has told you that?
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>>>> not be appropriate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is not correct.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>>>> ASC forums.
>>>> 
>>>> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
>>>> OK. This is all so weird.
>>> 
>>> Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
>>> in order to access the ASC forums?
>> 
>> I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
>> was OK.
> 
> Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
> 
>>>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>>>> 
>>>> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
>>> 
>>> To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
>> 
>> I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
>> for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
> 
> THEY have described my behaviour in that way.

As have you. You describe yourself as asking about apps and developers in a
way that implies nefarious intentions. Then you are surprised when people
respond.
> 
> That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
> folk there don't like that.
> SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
> 
> Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
> here in my Usenet group?
> 
> Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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