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  Apple pushes Sierra via software update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-03 16:01 -0600
    Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 18:38 -0400
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-03 23:27 -0600
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 10:29 -0400
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-05 10:49 +1300
    Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-03 23:02 +0000
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-03 23:53 +0000
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 00:12 +0000
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-04 00:18 +0000
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-03 23:10 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-03 20:22 -0700
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-04 05:26 +0000
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 06:23 +0000
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-03 20:13 -0500
    Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-03 19:30 -0400
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 19:35 -0400
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-03 19:38 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 19:42 -0400
            Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-03 20:05 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-03 23:56 +0000
            Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-03 20:07 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 00:13 +0000
            Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-03 21:14 -0400
              Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 21:59 -0400
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-03 23:54 +0000
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-03 17:06 -0700
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-04 00:09 +0000
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2016-10-03 21:01 -0400
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-03 21:17 -0400
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 06:24 +0000
      Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-03 23:16 -0600
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-04 09:53 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-04 18:27 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update "Howard Lester" <howardxtlester@verizon.net> - 2016-10-05 19:00 -0400
            Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-05 17:11 -0700
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-04 14:24 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-04 18:32 +0000
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 23:21 +0000
            Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-04 19:35 -0400
              Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 19:43 -0400
              Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-05 04:03 +0000
        Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-04 18:22 -0400
          Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 18:43 -0400
            Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-06 16:30 -0400
              Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 16:37 -0400
                Re: Apple pushes Sierra via software update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-06 16:47 -0400

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#95145 — Apple pushes Sierra via software update

<http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>

(But it's still not appearing in my App Store update pane.) 

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#95151

In article <1mujrxt.1uyxn9whzoe8gN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>
> 
> (But it's still not appearing in my App Store update pane.) 

look again.

the sierra banner has been back for about a week.

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#95228

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> the sierra banner has been back for about a week.

For you maybe. For me, it just appeared recently. 

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#95243

In article <1mukgut.waqvg8z4d3hiN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> > the sierra banner has been back for about a week.
> 
> For you maybe. For me, it just appeared recently. 

that's what i just said. 

a week ago *is* recently.

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#95258

Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > the sierra banner has been back for about a week.
> 
> For you maybe. For me, it just appeared recently. 

It appeared six days ago for me - I happened to notice because I saw it
about a day after I'd just commented about its absence.

For me that was last Thursday morning, which in Pacific Daylight Time
would be about mid afternoon Wednesday 28 September. It wasn't there 24
hours earlier.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#95161

In message <1mujrxt.1uyxn9whzoe8gN%nmassello@yahoo.com> 
  Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>

That's too bad. While I think everyone who can update to 10.12 should
update, I don't like Apple following Micrsoft's lead in downloading a
new system the user didn't ask for.

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#95182

On 2016-10-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <1mujrxt.1uyxn9whzoe8gN%nmassello@yahoo.com> 
>   Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>
>
> That's too bad. While I think everyone who can update to 10.12 should
> update, I don't like Apple following Micrsoft's lead in downloading a
> new system the user didn't ask for.

Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.

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#95190

In message <e5g9ckFanfpU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2016-10-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <1mujrxt.1uyxn9whzoe8gN%nmassello@yahoo.com> 
>>   Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>
>>
>> That's too bad. While I think everyone who can update to 10.12 should
>> update, I don't like Apple following Micrsoft's lead in downloading a
>> new system the user didn't ask for.

> Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
> users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
> Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.

True, so it's not as bad. But 10.12 isn't an update, it's a new version
and I don't feel this is the best thing to do.

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#95192

On 2016-10-04, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <e5g9ckFanfpU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <1mujrxt.1uyxn9whzoe8gN%nmassello@yahoo.com> 
>>>   Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>
>>>
>>> That's too bad. While I think everyone who can update to 10.12 should
>>> update, I don't like Apple following Micrsoft's lead in downloading a
>>> new system the user didn't ask for.
>
>> Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
>> users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
>> Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.
>
> True, so it's not as bad. But 10.12 isn't an update, it's a new version
> and I don't feel this is the best thing to do.

I can see that point of view. But then I've never enabled automatic
software updates on any of my computers. So I don't think either one is
a good idea. : D

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#95217

On 2016-10-03 19:53, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
> users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
> Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.

Is this preference turned on by default for those who have upgraded to
ElCapitan ?

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#95218

On 2016-10-04 03:10:09 +0000, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> said:

> On 2016-10-03 19:53, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
>> users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
>> Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.
> 
> Is this preference turned on by default for those who have upgraded to
> ElCapitan ?

It wasn't for me with a move from Yosemite to El Cap.

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#95227

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-03 19:53, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
>> users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
>> Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.
> 
> Is this preference turned on by default for those who have upgraded to
> ElCapitan ?

Nope. It's opt-in.

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#95230

In message <57f31d91$0$8257$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-03 19:53, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> Except that's not what Apple is doing since the update is only pushed to
>> users who have enabled System Preferences > App Store > Automatically
>> Check for Updates > Install OS X updates.

> Is this preference turned on by default for those who have upgraded to
> ElCapitan ?

A question that was covered *many* times before you posted.

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#95200

On 10-03-2016 18:02, Lewis wrote:
> In message <1mujrxt.1uyxn9whzoe8gN%nmassello@yahoo.com>
>   Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>
>
> That's too bad. While I think everyone who can update to 10.12 should
> update, I don't like Apple following Micrsoft's lead in downloading a
> new system the user didn't ask for.

It is not automatically installed, and it is only downloaded 
automatically if the user has selected that option.  While I personally 
don't select that, I think it would be a bad idea for Apple to NOT do it 
if the user checked the box that said they want it.

That's completely different from Microsoft trying to deceive users to 
get them to install it.

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#95176

On 2016-10-03 18:01, Neill Massello wrote:
> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/>
>
> (But it's still not appearing in my App Store update pane.)

I really wish Apple would stop automatic major OS DL's.  Let the user 
decide when he wants to blow 4 or 5 GB of his bandwidth - for many of 
us, there's a monthly cap and sometimes we defer into the next period. 
Or DL at work and bring it home on a USB key.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95178

In article <2padnQK1cvqxd2_KnZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> I really wish Apple would stop automatic major OS DL's.  Let the user 
> decide when he wants to blow 4 or 5 GB of his bandwidth - for many of 
> us, there's a monthly cap and sometimes we defer into the next period. 
> Or DL at work and bring it home on a USB key.

the user always gets to decide. turn off auto-update. done.

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#95179

On 2016-10-03 19:35, nospam wrote:
> In article <2padnQK1cvqxd2_KnZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> I really wish Apple would stop automatic major OS DL's.  Let the user
>> decide when he wants to blow 4 or 5 GB of his bandwidth - for many of
>> us, there's a monthly cap and sometimes we defer into the next period.
>> Or DL at work and bring it home on a USB key.
>
> the user always gets to decide. turn off auto-update. done.

It is off in my case.  Always has been.  But many users have it on 
automatic and they will get burned by this nonsense.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95181

In article <kN-dnSjaKdRzdm_KnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >> I really wish Apple would stop automatic major OS DL's.  Let the user
> >> decide when he wants to blow 4 or 5 GB of his bandwidth - for many of
> >> us, there's a monthly cap and sometimes we defer into the next period.
> >> Or DL at work and bring it home on a USB key.
> >
> > the user always gets to decide. turn off auto-update. done.
> 
> It is off in my case.  Always has been.  But many users have it on 
> automatic and they will get burned by this nonsense.

they have only themselves to blame.

apple is doing what those users told apple they wanted.

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#95186

On 2016-10-03 19:42, nospam wrote:
> In article <kN-dnSjaKdRzdm_KnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>> I really wish Apple would stop automatic major OS DL's.  Let the user
>>>> decide when he wants to blow 4 or 5 GB of his bandwidth - for many of
>>>> us, there's a monthly cap and sometimes we defer into the next period.
>>>> Or DL at work and bring it home on a USB key.
>>>
>>> the user always gets to decide. turn off auto-update. done.
>>
>> It is off in my case.  Always has been.  But many users have it on
>> automatic and they will get burned by this nonsense.
>
> they have only themselves to blame.
>
> apple is doing what those users told apple they wanted.

Can easily be limited to "Apps". Major OS upgrades is another matter.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95184

On 2016-10-03, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-03 19:35, nospam wrote:
>> In article <2padnQK1cvqxd2_KnZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I really wish Apple would stop automatic major OS DL's.  Let the user
>>> decide when he wants to blow 4 or 5 GB of his bandwidth - for many of
>>> us, there's a monthly cap and sometimes we defer into the next period.
>>> Or DL at work and bring it home on a USB key.
>>
>> the user always gets to decide. turn off auto-update. done.
>
> It is off in my case.  Always has been.  But many users have it on 
> automatic and they will get burned by this nonsense.

I predict many more users will appreciate the fact that the OS does what
they configured it to do. If I had automatic updates enabled and
*didn't* receive them, I'd be pissed, personally.

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