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| Started by | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| First post | 2017-06-07 18:58 -0400 |
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erase boot disk? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2017-06-07 18:58 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-07 22:19 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2017-06-08 09:28 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-08 10:32 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-06-08 15:50 +0000
Re: erase boot disk? Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 22:39 +0000
Re: erase boot disk? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-08 19:13 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-09 13:23 +1200
Re: erase boot disk? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2017-06-09 11:09 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2017-06-09 11:10 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-06-09 23:36 +0000
Re: erase boot disk? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2017-06-10 21:54 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-06-11 04:51 +0000
Re: erase boot disk? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2017-06-11 15:13 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-11 15:29 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2017-06-25 17:26 -0400
Re: erase boot disk? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-06-25 21:55 +0000
Re: erase boot disk? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2017-06-25 18:30 -0400
| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 18:58 -0400 |
| Subject | erase boot disk? |
| Message-ID | <oha081$197$1@dont-email.me> |
For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. I don't recall how to get a smart report. Before Time Machine, I kept a clone of my boot disk. IIRC, OSX was supposed to defrag as it ran, but sometimes the internal disk would seem slower than before. Erasing and restoring from the clone seemed to help. Would that be a good idea now? Have I overlooked something?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 22:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <070620172219482974%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #107498 |
In article <oha081$197$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. > Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in > 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. > I don't recall how to get a smart report. completely meaningless. > Before Time Machine, I kept a clone of my boot disk. you should still be doing that. > IIRC, OSX was > supposed to defrag as it ran, but sometimes the internal disk would seem > slower than before. Erasing and restoring from the clone seemed to help. > > Would that be a good idea now? Have I overlooked something? slowdowns are often the sign of impending failure. what you really should do is replace the internal drive with an ssd. the difference is staggering.
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| From | Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-08 09:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ohbjdv$4jb$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #107499 |
On 6/7/17 10:19 PM, nospam wrote: > In article <oha081$197$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> > wrote: > >> For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. >> Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in >> 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. >> I don't recall how to get a smart report. > SNIP > > slowdowns are often the sign of impending failure. > > what you really should do is replace the internal drive with an ssd. > the difference is staggering. > I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? -- Never admit anything, even on your death bed. You might unexpectedly recover. - Jack Reacher
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-06-08 10:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <080620171032252200%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #107500 |
In article <ohbjdv$4jb$1@news.albasani.net>, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > >> For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. > >> Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in > >> 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. > >> I don't recall how to get a smart report. > > > SNIP > > > > slowdowns are often the sign of impending failure. > > > > what you really should do is replace the internal drive with an ssd. > > the difference is staggering. > > > > I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty > much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? definitely no. for a 2012 mini, it's trivial. the bottom cover twists off, then it's a couple of screws to get to the hd/ssd. <https://regmedia.co.uk/2010/06/17/mac_mini2.jpg> for the older intel minis, it's a bit more effort, but not particularly difficult. two putty knives to pop the top, then a bunch of screws to remove the drive bracket along with some cables, then swap the drive.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-08 15:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <epta18Fsls3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #107500 |
On 2017-06-08, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > > I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty > much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? Nah. I've done it with all of the various models through the years since the very first Mac mini. iMacs are *much* harder and more cumbersome. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-08 22:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ohcjn5$6kt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #107500 |
Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty > much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? It is "involved". You have to be patient and methodical. There are tutorials online. I have replaced two mini boot drives, and while everything survived I do not look forward to doing it again. -- A.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-06-08 19:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <080620171913539515%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #107519 |
In article <ohcjn5$6kt$1@dont-email.me>, Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty > > much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? > > It is "involved". You have to be patient and methodical. There are > tutorials online. I have replaced two mini boot drives, and while > everything survived I do not look forward to doing it again. it's not involved at all. in fact, it's very easy. twist off the bottom cover, remove a few screws to move fan to access old drive, pull out old drive, put in new drive, put back screws and fan. the entire process is about 10-15 minutes. the only tricky part is getting the new drive to seat properly.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-09 13:23 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <ohct9t$6hq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #107519 |
On 2017-06-08 22:39:33 +0000, Alrescha said: > Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: >> >> I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty >> much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? > > It is "involved". You have to be patient and methodical. There are > tutorials online. I have replaced two mini boot drives, and while > everything survived I do not look forward to doing it again. Thanks to the moron Johnny Ive, pretty much everything Apple makes these days is "involved" when you try to open it up. :-( It'll be "interesting" to see what happens with the next Mac Pro which is supposed to be "modular".
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| From | Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-09 11:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ohedmg$nue$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #107519 |
On 6/8/17 6:39 PM, Alrescha wrote: > Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > >> I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty >> much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? > > It is "involved". You have to be patient and methodical. There are > tutorials online. I have replaced two mini boot drives, and while > everything survived I do not look forward to doing it again. > Regretfully, patience is not my long suit! I've got an aging though still fully satisfactory iMac- though periodically suffer from a bout of I-wanna-new-computeritis and think about replacing it. Being a keyboard-in-the-lap/big monitor kinda guy, Macbooks don't have any appeal to me. I've thought about saving some dough with a Mac Mini though. -- I fear the day technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots. - Albert Einstein
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-09 11:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ohedj5$d3h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #107519 |
On 6/8/17 6:39 PM, Alrescha wrote: > Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > >> I thought it was somewhere between really really difficult and pretty >> much impossible to get at a Mini's innards. Yes, no? > > It is "involved". You have to be patient and methodical. There are > tutorials online. I have replaced two mini boot drives, and while > everything survived I do not look forward to doing it again. > I'd try it if I had a backup Mac more recent than G4. As it is, I'd be in a jam if my Mac were wrecked or just disabled for a few days. Maybe it's time to get a 2014 and make my 2012 my backup. I haven't done it because the HDD looks about as slow as mine. Now I see the $699 model can have a 256 GB SSD instead of a 1 TB HDD. The site says you can design your own, but I don't see how. This ADATA SE730 isn't working out. This morning, the computer crashed on wakeup, and the first restart never got to the apple. Then it worked until I shut it down. When I started, it would shut off. I started on the internal drive. Twice, it said I'd disconnected the SSD without ejecting. To the contrary, before starting, I'd made sure the plugs were tight. I have read complaints that it comes with a shoddy cable. The fact that in five days they haven't responded to my TRIM question, suggests that the problem is with the company, not just the cable. New Mac, install internal SSD, better brand of external SSD. Decisions, decisions...
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-09 23:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eq0poiFmnd5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #107529 |
On 2017-06-09, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > > Maybe it's time to get a 2014 and make my 2012 my backup. I haven't done > it because the HDD looks about as slow as mine. Now I see the $699 > model can have a 256 GB SSD instead of a 1 TB HDD. The site says you can > design your own, but I don't see how. Design your own what? Fusion Drive? You can create your own Fusion Drive composed of any size SSD and hard drive you want by issuing a few terminal commands. I replaced the DVD drive in my 17-inch MacBook Pro with a hard drive and put an SSD in the normal hard drive bay to create a 977GB startup drive that's speedy and has lots of space - best of both worlds on a laptop. Works great! : ) > This ADATA SE730 isn't working out. This morning, the computer crashed > on wakeup, and the first restart never got to the apple. Then it worked > until I shut it down. When I started, it would shut off. > > I started on the internal drive. Twice, it said I'd disconnected the > SSD without ejecting. To the contrary, before starting, I'd made sure > the plugs were tight. > > I have read complaints that it comes with a shoddy cable. The fact that > in five days they haven't responded to my TRIM question, suggests that > the problem is with the company, not just the cable. Sounds like crap ware. Hope you didn't pay too much for it! > New Mac, install internal SSD, better brand of external SSD. Decisions, > decisions... If it were me, I'd install a new internal SSD, or if I wanted to do something without spending money, I'd put a spare 2.5-inch hard drive I have sitting around in there. Then again if money was no object, a new Mac is always hard to pass up. : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-10 21:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ohi7ms$o5i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #107535 |
On 6/9/17 7:36 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2017-06-09, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> Maybe it's time to get a 2014 and make my 2012 my backup. I haven't done >> it because the HDD looks about as slow as mine. Now I see the $699 >> model can have a 256 GB SSD instead of a 1 TB HDD. The site says you can >> design your own, but I don't see how. > > Design your own what? Fusion Drive? You can create your own Fusion Drive > composed of any size SSD and hard drive you want by issuing a few > terminal commands. I replaced the DVD drive in my 17-inch MacBook Pro > with a hard drive and put an SSD in the normal hard drive bay to create > a 977GB startup drive that's speedy and has lots of space - best of both > worlds on a laptop. Works great! : ) Apple calls it ordering a customized Mac. I went back to the site and found out how. The $700 Mini comes with an HDD that looks about as slow as mine. With fusion, it's $900. With just a 256k flash, it's also $900! I might buy a second Mac so I'll dare tinker inside, like you. > >> This ADATA SE730 isn't working out. This morning, the computer crashed >> on wakeup, and the first restart never got to the apple. Then it worked >> until I shut it down. When I started, it would shut off. >> >> I started on the internal drive. Twice, it said I'd disconnected the >> SSD without ejecting. To the contrary, before starting, I'd made sure >> the plugs were tight. >> >> I have read complaints that it comes with a shoddy cable. The fact that >> in five days they haven't responded to my TRIM question, suggests that >> the problem is with the company, not just the cable. > > Sounds like crap ware. Hope you didn't pay too much for it! I didn't exercise due diligence. I bought it on impulse because of the price and good customer reviews. In fact, there weren't many. After I bought it, I found a magazine review calling it slow and overpriced. I discovered that it usually costs much more than I paid. My defect seems to be the C port, not the cable. Maybe I won't have to pay to ship it back. > >> New Mac, install internal SSD, better brand of external SSD. Decisions, >> decisions... > > If it were me, I'd install a new internal SSD, or if I wanted to do > something without spending money, I'd put a spare 2.5-inch hard drive I > have sitting around in there. Then again if money was no object, a new > Mac is always hard to pass up. : ) > I haven't erased my internal drive, but twice I've used CCC to update it from the external clone before I booted with the internal HDD. Each time, it took 4 minutes to get the login screen. I guess booting required files to be rewritten. It seems quicker than before, even if Xbench says it's just as slow. Benchmarks sent in for this HDD have shown a wide range of speeds for this drive in a Mini, so I guess it's complicated. The going price for the Samsung T3 is less than the special price I paid for the Adata, and it's vastly more popular. Mac owners commend it highly. One got a big bargain for a new iMac in 2016. The weak point was the HDD. He boots with a T3 and loves it. Another Amazon reviewer made a youtube video about it. A 1980's Mac is visible behind him. He found the T3 so fast and reliable that he bought several for his outdoor video work with a Macbook. Samsung includes Mac software that makes it really fast, as well as instructional software. To his surprise, the benchmarks for his first one got faster after he'd used it awhile. I think Samsung calls their TRIM method "remap." That reviewer uses a T3 for his Windows boot when he wants to play Windows games on his Mac. Some have complained that the C connector on an SSD with USB 3.1, can come loose easily. They say Samsung has designed an especially secure port.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-11 04:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eq40j8Fe6lhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #107574 |
On 2017-06-11, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > On 6/9/17 7:36 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2017-06-09, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >>> >>> Maybe it's time to get a 2014 and make my 2012 my backup. I haven't done >>> it because the HDD looks about as slow as mine. Now I see the $699 >>> model can have a 256 GB SSD instead of a 1 TB HDD. The site says you can >>> design your own, but I don't see how. >> >> Design your own what? Fusion Drive? You can create your own Fusion Drive >> composed of any size SSD and hard drive you want by issuing a few >> terminal commands. I replaced the DVD drive in my 17-inch MacBook Pro >> with a hard drive and put an SSD in the normal hard drive bay to create >> a 977GB startup drive that's speedy and has lots of space - best of both >> worlds on a laptop. Works great! : ) > > Apple calls it ordering a customized Mac. Okay. It's called build-to-order in the industry. That's not what is commonly understood as "designing your own", just so you know. ; ) > I went back to the site and > found out how. The $700 Mini comes with an HDD that looks about as slow > as mine. With fusion, it's $900. With just a 256k flash, it's also $900! Flash is expensive, but is way faster and better than spinning rust, IMHO. You can always order it with the HD, and then upgrade the HD to flash-based storage later on if you want to increase the life of the machine. The difference in speed between a solo HD and a Fusion Drive or completely flash-based storage is huge. > I might buy a second Mac so I'll dare tinker inside, like you. If you can follow the instructions on iFixit, there's really nothing to it but patience and a steady hand. : ) >>> New Mac, install internal SSD, better brand of external SSD. Decisions, >>> decisions... >> >> If it were me, I'd install a new internal SSD, or if I wanted to do >> something without spending money, I'd put a spare 2.5-inch hard drive I >> have sitting around in there. Then again if money was no object, a new >> Mac is always hard to pass up. : ) >> > I haven't erased my internal drive, but twice I've used CCC to update > it from the external clone before I booted with the internal HDD. Each > time, it took 4 minutes to get the login screen. I guess booting > required files to be rewritten. It seems quicker than before, even if > Xbench says it's just as slow. Benchmarks sent in for this HDD have > shown a wide range of speeds for this drive in a Mini, so I guess it's > complicated. > > The going price for the Samsung T3 is less than the special price I paid > for the Adata, and it's vastly more popular. Mac owners commend it > highly. One got a big bargain for a new iMac in 2016. The weak point > was the HDD. He boots with a T3 and loves it. > > Another Amazon reviewer made a youtube video about it. A 1980's Mac is > visible behind him. He found the T3 so fast and reliable that he bought > several for his outdoor video work with a Macbook. Samsung includes Mac > software that makes it really fast, as well as instructional software. I'd much rather replace an internal drive than have an external drive permanently hanging off the side of the computer. I wonder if that T3 enclosure has an EVO inside, or what? The Samsung EVO usually gets good ratings on Amazon: <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=twister_B00PRDMHLU?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1> -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-11 15:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ohk4i4$d1c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #107575 |
On 6/11/17 12:51 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2017-06-11, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > >> I might buy a second Mac so I'll dare tinker inside, like you. > > If you can follow the instructions on iFixit, there's really nothing to > it but patience and a steady hand. : ) > I believe that's where I saw what I'd be getting into, to increase the memory of my G4 Mini to 2 GB. Popular wisdom said it would make a big difference, but it didn't pan out for me. I believe that's where I saw what it would take to change the HDD in that Mini. The connector for the HDD was new to me. IIRC, it would plug in when reversed. Not remembering how it had come out, I tried it both ways and took my best guess. It wouldn't boot. Disassembly was easier the second time. I reversed the connector and found that I hadn't caused electrical damage. I don't recall any popular wisdom to change to another 5400 rpm disk, but it made a big improvement in speed, as I'd imagined from the specs while shopping. It also used less power, which would mean less temperature change and longer computer life. IIRC, it had been available and reasonably cheap when that Mini came out. I wondered if Apple had used a slow drive to make iMacs more appealing to those attracted by the Mini's price. When the fan of my 2012 began running above an idle more than usual, iFixit told me how to remove it. I cracked the shroud removing it. I decided to use a vacuum cleaner to suck the dirt out of the fan instead of blowing it in. I was aware that a vacuum cleaner can ruin a fan by overspeeding it and that rushing air can cause a static buildup. IFixit had no warning. Reinstalling the shroud was a puzzle. When I figured it out, I found that the correct position held the crack closed. A broken or wrongly installed shroud would have changed the airflow, possibly causing certain parts to fail. I had to check iFixit, then perform these operations by remembering what I'd seen. With a second Mac, I could have looked at photos when I wondered which way to plug in the new HDD. With a second Mac, I could have looked at the shape of the shroud when something kept it from lifting out as expected. That way, I could have avoided damage. With a second Mac, I could have seen how to position it to reinstall. If attempted servicing had put my only Mac out of commission, I would have been out of touch with banking, utilities, retailers, and all kinds of information sources. > I'd much rather replace an internal drive than have an external drive > permanently hanging off the side of the computer. I wonder if that T3 > enclosure has an EVO inside, or what? The Samsung EVO usually gets good > ratings on Amazon: > > <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=twister_B00PRDMHLU?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1> > The T1 used the 850 EVO. For 500 GB and up, the T3 uses the K9DUGB8S7M, not seen before. I don't know what the 250 GB version uses. <http://www.electronicproducts.com/Samsung_SSD_T3-whatsinside_text-196.aspx>
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-06-11 15:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110620171529122055%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #107576 |
In article <ohk4i4$d1c$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > >> I might buy a second Mac so I'll dare tinker inside, like you. > > > > If you can follow the instructions on iFixit, there's really nothing to > > it but patience and a steady hand. : ) > > > > I believe that's where I saw what I'd be getting into, to increase the > memory of my G4 Mini to 2 GB. Popular wisdom said it would make a big > difference, but it didn't pan out for me. the maximum memory for a powerpc mac mini is 1 gig. <http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/faq/mac-mini-g4-upgrade- processor-memory-hard-drive.html#ram> > I believe that's where I saw what it would take to change the HDD in > that Mini. The connector for the HDD was new to me. IIRC, it would plug > in when reversed. no it won't, but even if it did, the screw holes won't line up and you won't be able to put it back together. > Not remembering how it had come out, I tried it both > ways and took my best guess. It wouldn't boot. then you did something else wrong. > Disassembly was easier > the second time. I reversed the connector and found that I hadn't caused > electrical damage. that's good. > I don't recall any popular wisdom to change to another 5400 rpm disk, > but it made a big improvement in speed, as I'd imagined from the specs > while shopping. It also used less power, which would mean less > temperature change and longer computer life. IIRC, it had been available > and reasonably cheap when that Mini came out. I wondered if Apple had > used a slow drive to make iMacs more appealing to those attracted by the > Mini's price. the main reason would be thermal. a 7200 rpm drive typically is warmer. > When the fan of my 2012 began running above an idle more than usual, > iFixit told me how to remove it. I cracked the shroud removing it. I > decided to use a vacuum cleaner to suck the dirt out of the fan instead > of blowing it in. I was aware that a vacuum cleaner can ruin a fan by > overspeeding it and that rushing air can cause a static buildup. IFixit > had no warning. a vacuum cleaner won't have any effect on the fan. > Reinstalling the shroud was a puzzle. When I figured it out, I found > that the correct position held the crack closed. A broken or wrongly > installed shroud would have changed the airflow, possibly causing > certain parts to fail. it goes back just as easy as it comes out.
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 17:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oip9jk$tat$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #107498 |
On 6/7/17 6:58 PM, J Burns wrote: > For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. > Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in > 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. I > don't recall how to get a smart report. > > Before Time Machine, I kept a clone of my boot disk. IIRC, OSX was > supposed to defrag as it ran, but sometimes the internal disk would seem > slower than before. Erasing and restoring from the clone seemed to help. > > Would that be a good idea now? Have I overlooked something? It worked great. What took minutes, takes seconds now.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <erapqrF3g2lU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #107652 |
On 2017-06-25, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > On 6/7/17 6:58 PM, J Burns wrote: >> For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. >> Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in >> 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. I >> don't recall how to get a smart report. >> >> Before Time Machine, I kept a clone of my boot disk. IIRC, OSX was >> supposed to defrag as it ran, but sometimes the internal disk would seem >> slower than before. Erasing and restoring from the clone seemed to help. >> >> Would that be a good idea now? Have I overlooked something? > > It worked great. What took minutes, takes seconds now. What worked great, exactly? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 18:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oipdc3$dde$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #107655 |
On 6/25/17 5:55 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2017-06-25, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >> On 6/7/17 6:58 PM, J Burns wrote: >>> For years, I've thought the internal drive on my 2012 Mini was slowing. >>> Now XBench shows it to be about half as fast in all categories, as in >>> 2012. Disk First Aid says it's fine. It says Smart Status is verified. I >>> don't recall how to get a smart report. >>> >>> Before Time Machine, I kept a clone of my boot disk. IIRC, OSX was >>> supposed to defrag as it ran, but sometimes the internal disk would seem >>> slower than before. Erasing and restoring from the clone seemed to help. >>> >>> Would that be a good idea now? Have I overlooked something? >> >> It worked great. What took minutes, takes seconds now. > > What worked great, exactly? > Clone internal drive to external drive. Boot from external drive. Erase internal drive, formatting with GUID as before. Clone from external drive. Boot from internal drive. Greased lightning!
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