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Godo news for the Mac !

Started byJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
First post2017-05-02 23:26 -0400
Last post2017-05-05 01:27 -0400
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  Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-02 23:26 -0400
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 03:34 +0000
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:41 -0400
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:46 -0400
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-04 01:24 +1200
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-05-03 12:06 -0400
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 12:16 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:26 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 13:56 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 18:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:05 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:23 +0000
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:45 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:03 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:20 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:22 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:49 +0000
                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:38 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:46 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 23:28 +0000
                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:05 +0000
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 13:33 -0700
                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:52 +0000
                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:32 -0700
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:49 +0000
                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:31 -0700
                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-07 19:54 -0400
                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 11:07 -0700
                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:22 -0400
                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 12:54 -0700
                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:42 +0000
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 22:54 +0000
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:39 +0000
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:53 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 19:59 +0000
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:30 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0400
                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:24 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:26 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:19 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:21 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:27 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:28 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:33 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:36 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:50 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 21:05 +0000
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-05 16:45 +0100
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:50 +0000
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 22:56 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:11 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 23:16 +0000
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:22 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-06 08:55 -0700
                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:10 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:11 +0000
                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1200
                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 18:51 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:45 +0000
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:46 +1200
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:27 -0400
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 15:15 +1200
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:23 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 14:02 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:37 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:25 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:07 -0700
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 14:36 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:50 -0700
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 15:45 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:02 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:22 +0000
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:56 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:41 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:24 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:44 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:41 -0400
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 23:17 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:53 -0400
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-04 00:04 -0500
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-04 18:47 +1200
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 02:55 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-04 23:59 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 00:17 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! android <here@there.was> - 2017-05-05 06:34 +0200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-05 16:58 +1200
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! android <here@there.was> - 2017-05-05 09:00 +0200
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-05 19:25 +1200
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 09:03 -0400
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! android <here@there.was> - 2017-05-07 11:09 +0200
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:04 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:29 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:11 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:09 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 09:03 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:25 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:45 -0400
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:54 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:28 -0400
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-06 04:39 +0000
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:38 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-08 15:55 -0400
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:23 +1200
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 01:56 +0000
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 16:29 +1200
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-08 20:17 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 01:50 +0000
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-09 00:54 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-09 00:56 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 18:10 +1200
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 15:25 +0000
                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-09 12:43 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-09 12:46 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-09 09:49 -0700
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-10 09:40 +1200
                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-09 17:55 -0400
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 22:14 +0000
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 22:40 +0000
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 22:37 +0000
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-10 13:53 +1200
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2017-05-10 10:54 -0500
                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-11 12:51 +1200
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-10 22:16 -0400
                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-05 14:42 -0400
                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-05 16:02 -0400
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-05 16:31 -0400
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-06 09:05 +1200
                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-06 09:53 +1200
                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-05 18:10 -0400
                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-05 18:18 -0400
                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-06-06 12:03 +1200
                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-06 13:11 +1200
                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-05 23:01 -0400
                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-06 16:29 +1200
                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2017-06-06 13:26 -0500
                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-07 09:21 +1200
                                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-06-07 07:58 -0400
                                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2017-06-07 08:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-08 10:03 +1200
                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-06-08 15:19 -0400
                                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-06-08 15:17 -0400
                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-06-08 15:20 -0400
                                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-08 15:34 -0400
                                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-08 12:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2017-06-09 07:25 +0200
                                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-09 18:16 +1200
                                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 00:52 -0700
                                                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2017-06-10 07:24 +0200
                                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 02:06 -0600
                                                                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 09:23 +1200
                                                                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 14:25 -0700
                                                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 11:39 +1200
                                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 16:40 -0700
                                                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 14:11 +1200
                                                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 19:13 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 14:45 +1200
                                                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 19:48 -0700
                                                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-09 21:01 -0400
                                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 18:23 -0700
                                                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-09 22:15 -0400
                                                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 19:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-09 23:07 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 18:45 +1200
                                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 14:53 +1200
                                                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-09 20:07 -0700
                                                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 18:42 +1200
                                                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 18:49 +1200
                                                                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 01:31 -0600
                                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-10 19:36 +1200
                                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 01:40 -0600
                                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-09 09:07 +1200
                                                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-08 12:28 -0700
                                                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-06-08 15:45 -0400
                                                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-08 12:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-06-08 15:56 -0400
                                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-06-08 14:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-06-06 23:23 -0400
                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-06 23:31 -0400
                                                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2017-06-07 07:35 +0200
                                                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-06-07 18:40 +1200
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 16:22 +1200
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-09 01:17 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-09 01:29 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 19:07 +1200
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 15:32 +0000
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 06:30 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 10:44 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 14:47 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:33 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:40 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-06 04:42 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-04 19:00 -0500
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 20:06 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:42 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:50 +1200
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:55 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:58 +1200
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 16:37 -0700
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 17:40 +1200
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 23:28 -0700
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 19:33 +1200
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:54 -0700
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0500
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:45 +1200
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:29 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:07 -0500
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-05 13:12 +1200
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 21:17 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:29 -0500
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:12 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 19:59 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 00:19 +0000
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 17:37 -0700
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:46 -0500
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 19:02 +0000
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-07 14:57 -0600
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:16 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:17 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:54 +0000
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:12 +0000
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-08 20:45 +0000
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:40 +1200
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 02:58 +0000
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:51 +1200
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:51 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:09 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:57 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 02:15 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:00 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:09 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:34 +0000
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:15 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 11:02 -0700
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:01 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:27 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:12 -0400
                                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 13:53 -0700
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:42 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:45 +0000
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:22 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 19:25 -0700
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 02:29 +0000
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:24 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 12:42 -0400
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:49 -0400
                            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 13:30 -0400
                              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 13:50 -0400
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-06 00:11 -0500
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:59 +1200
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:58 -0500
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:49 +1200
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 13:04 -0500
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-07 11:31 -0700
                          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-05-07 13:22 -0600
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:53 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:31 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:09 -0400
                    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:42 +0000
                      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:34 -0400
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:44 +0000
                        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 20:05 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:59 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:15 +0000
                  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:49 -0500
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 01:27 -0400

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#106155 — Godo news for the Mac !

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2017-05-02 23:26 -0400
SubjectGodo news for the Mac !
Message-ID<59094de0$0$60254$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
At the financial analysts teleconference today, Tim Cook revealed that
Mac sales (units) grew by 14% while rest of marlet stayd put at 0%.
Revenues were up 22%.

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#106157

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2017-05-03 03:34 +0000
Message-ID<emt1d9F5fj1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#106155
On 2017-05-03, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> At the financial analysts teleconference today, Tim Cook revealed that
> Mac sales (units) grew by 14% while rest of marlet stayd put at 0%.
> Revenues were up 22%.

After all the bitching and moaning from the vocal minority about how
Apple has supposedly "lost its way" and "lost Pro users". It's almost as
if all the trolls were completely full of shit. Who knew?

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#106163

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-03 08:41 -0400
Message-ID<VYqdnZqPmv18UpTEnZ2dnUU7-aHNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106155
On 2017-05-02 23:26, JF Mezei wrote:
> At the financial analysts teleconference today, Tim Cook revealed that
> Mac sales (units) grew by 14% while rest of marlet stayd put at 0%.
> Revenues were up 22%.
>

Actually Mac sales are in a lull.  Not sure where that 14% comes from.

Is it against the same quarter last year?  No - that would be 4% up.

Is it these past 4 quarter v the prior?  No - that would be down, somewhat.

In the 4th quarter, 2015, 4-quarter average sales were 5146000 units per 
quarter.

Now, it's 4677000 units per quarter (average of 4 quarters).

In the last quarter, 4199000 units were sold.  The only time it's been 
lower is 2016Q2 ... before that 2014Q2.

So, while Mr. Cook appropriately spins thing, Mac sales are not all that 
hot at present and far off of the highs of late 2015/early 2016.
2015Q4: 5709000
2015Q2: 4199000  ... that's 26% fewer units.

Any company would kill for these numbers - and especially margins - of 
course.

Apple has been through a similar cycle ending in 2013 - seems to be a 4 
year "roll".  If that cycle repeats (and cycles don't necessarily do 
so), Apple could see stellar numbers in 4 years from now.

-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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#106164

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-03 08:46 -0400
Message-ID<odCdnRyTxJ64TJTEnZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106163
On 2017-05-03 08:41, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2017-05-02 23:26, JF Mezei wrote:
>> At the financial analysts teleconference today, Tim Cook revealed that
>> Mac sales (units) grew by 14% while rest of marlet stayd put at 0%.
>> Revenues were up 22%.
>>
>
> Actually Mac sales are in a lull.  Not sure where that 14% comes from.
>
> Is it against the same quarter last year?  No - that would be 4% up.
>
> Is it these past 4 quarter v the prior?  No - that would be down, somewhat.
>
> In the 4th quarter, 2015, 4-quarter average sales were 5146000 units per
> quarter.
>
> Now, it's 4677000 units per quarter (average of 4 quarters).
>
> In the last quarter, 4199000 units were sold.  The only time it's been
> lower is 2016Q2 ... before that 2014Q2.
>
> So, while Mr. Cook appropriately spins thing, Mac sales are not all that
> hot at present and far off of the highs of late 2015/early 2016.
> 2015Q4: 5709000
> 2015Q2: 4199000  ... that's 26% fewer units.
   2017Q2 - sorry about that.
>
> Any company would kill for these numbers - and especially margins - of
> course.
>
> Apple has been through a similar cycle ending in 2013 - seems to be a 4
> year "roll".  If that cycle repeats (and cycles don't necessarily do
> so), Apple could see stellar numbers in 4 years from now.
>


-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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#106165

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2017-05-04 01:24 +1200
Message-ID<1n5h6eg.1w10mpr1klq0q3N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#106163
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-05-02 23:26, JF Mezei wrote:
> > At the financial analysts teleconference today, Tim Cook revealed that
> > Mac sales (units) grew by 14% while rest of marlet stayd put at 0%.
> > Revenues were up 22%.
> >
> 
> Actually Mac sales are in a lull.  Not sure where that 14% comes from.

JF quoted the wrong figure.

Mac Revenue is up 14% compared to the same quarter last year.

Mac Units Sales are up 4% compared to the same quarter last year.

That's two quarters in a row with a small year-over-year increase, but
they still have a way to go before making up for the 2016 slump.

More updated models would help.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#106175

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2017-05-03 12:06 -0400
Message-ID<030520171206376430%star@sky.net>
In reply to#106165
David Empson:
> That's two quarters in a row with a small year-over-year increase, but
> they still have a way to go before making up for the 2016 slump.
> 
> More updated models would help.

"Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
around I'll never come around.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#106176

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2017-05-03 12:16 -0400
Message-ID<030520171216501658%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#106175
In article <030520171206376430%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> > That's two quarters in a row with a small year-over-year increase, but
> > they still have a way to go before making up for the 2016 slump.
> > 
> > More updated models would help.
> 
> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
> around I'll never come around.

the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.

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#106185

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2017-05-03 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnogk4sg.24h2.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#106176
In message <030520171216501658%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <030520171206376430%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:

>> > That's two quarters in a row with a small year-over-year increase, but
>> > they still have a way to go before making up for the 2016 slump.
>> > 
>> > More updated models would help.
>> 
>> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
>> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
>> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
>> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
>> around I'll never come around.

> the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
> photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
> array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.

Look, if it won't accept a CF card, then it's not a pro machine!

-- 
I was good and deleted the "You *&;#$ing moron" before posting aren't
you proud of me?

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#106186

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2017-05-03 13:56 -0400
Message-ID<030520171356491579%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#106185
In article <slrnogk4sg.24h2.g.kreme@snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> > That's two quarters in a row with a small year-over-year increase, but
> >> > they still have a way to go before making up for the 2016 slump.
> >> > 
> >> > More updated models would help.
> >> 
> >> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
> >> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
> >> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
> >> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
> >> around I'll never come around.
> 
> > the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
> > photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
> > array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.
> 
> Look, if it won't accept a CF card, then it's not a pro machine!

these days, pros use xqd :)

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#106187

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2017-05-03 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<emukf6Ff44oU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#106185
On 2017-05-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <030520171216501658%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <030520171206376430%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
>>> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
>>> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
>>> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
>>> around I'll never come around.
>
>> the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
>> photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
>> array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.
>
> Look, if it won't accept a CF card, then it's not a pro machine!

Such silliness... : D

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#106332

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2017-05-05 11:05 +0000
Message-ID<slrnogonag.26sc.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#106187
In message <emukf6Ff44oU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2017-05-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <030520171216501658%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <030520171206376430%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
>>>> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
>>>> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
>>>> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
>>>> around I'll never come around.
>>
>>> the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
>>> photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
>>> array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.
>>
>> Look, if it won't accept a CF card, then it's not a pro machine!

> Such silliness... : D

Where is my SCSI port!?!


-- 
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#106341

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
Message-ID<BOSdnclwRY-6GpHEnZ2dnUU7-YednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106332
On 2017-05-05 07:05, Lewis wrote:
> In message <emukf6Ff44oU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-05-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <030520171216501658%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <030520171206376430%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
>>>>> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
>>>>> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
>>>>> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
>>>>> around I'll never come around.
>>>
>>>> the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
>>>> photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
>>>> array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.
>>>
>>> Look, if it won't accept a CF card, then it's not a pro machine!
>
>> Such silliness... : D
>
> Where is my SCSI port!?!

Classic damning by ridicule.  Did you ever get past 10th grade HS debating?


-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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#106343

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2017-05-05 14:23 +0000
Message-ID<slrnogp2u3.5ab.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#106341
In message <BOSdnclwRY-6GpHEnZ2dnUU7-YednZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-05-05 07:05, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <emukf6Ff44oU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2017-05-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <030520171216501658%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> In article <030520171206376430%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Updated" is not enough. The latest "MacBook Amateurs," which tack on
>>>>>> gimmicks while removing functionality that photographers have come to
>>>>>> rely upon, have cost Apple one sale as I am committed to buying used
>>>>>> MacBook Pros until such time as Apple comes around. If they never come
>>>>>> around I'll never come around.
>>>>
>>>>> the wide gamut dci-p3 display on the new macbook pros is *exactly* what
>>>>> photographers want, along with thunderbolt 3 ports to connect to a raid
>>>>> array, along with *very* fast ssd for all that image processing i/o.
>>>>
>>>> Look, if it won't accept a CF card, then it's not a pro machine!
>>
>>> Such silliness... : D
>>
>> Where is my SCSI port!?!

> Classic damning by ridicule.  Did you ever get past 10th grade HS debating?

Ridicule is appropriate since the "objections" to the lack of an
integrated SD card reader are *ridiculous*.

-- 
Forever was over. All the sands had fallen. The great race between
entropy and energy had been run, and the favourite had been the winner
after all. Perhaps he ought to sharpen the blade again?  No. Not much
point, really.

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#106346

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-05 10:45 -0400
Message-ID<e7-dnS1Cp6SGDZHEnZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106343
On 2017-05-05 10:23, Lewis wrote:
> In message <BOSdnclwRY-6GpHEnZ2dnUU7-YednZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2017-05-05 07:05, Lewis wrote:

>>> Where is my SCSI port!?!
>
>> Classic damning by ridicule.  Did you ever get past 10th grade HS debating?
>
> Ridicule is appropriate since the "objections" to the lack of an
> integrated SD card reader are *ridiculous*.

No they are not.  SD cards are the removable storage for many cameras. 
Having an SD slot in a portable computer for photographers to offload 
their media is about as perfect a solution as can be.  Having to have a 
dongle is additional stuff to carry and possibly lose just before it is 
most urgently needed.

And you bring up SCSI?  Really.  You're a child.


-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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#106353

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2017-05-05 15:03 +0000
Message-ID<en3ii6Fdkj6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#106346
On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> SD cards are the removable storage for many cameras.
> Having an SD slot in a portable computer for *photographers*

For the vast majority of people (who *aren't* professional
photographers), the lack of such a slot is hardly important considering
how cheap and small card readers are and considering how much space a
car reader takes up on the side of a laptop. They'd naturally prefer
that valuable space be used for more versatile ports, making this a
complete non-issue for most people. Face it: You are in a vocal, but
*very* small, minority.

> Having to have a dongle is additional stuff to carry and possibly lose
> just before it is most urgently needed.

"THE DONGLES - THEY SUCK!! WE HATES THEM!"

Meanwhile the rest of us realize laptops have *always* had a limited
number of ports and plan accordingly. Many people realize the reality is
dongles have been needed with laptops for many years due to the sheer
number of different devices one might want to connect to a laptop.
Anyone working in a large corporate environment knows this well, and it
doesn't apply only to Macs, either. I say suck it up and get some real
work done, snowflakes!

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#106355

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-05 11:20 -0400
Message-ID<cJmdnTJL9uWjBZHEnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106353
On 2017-05-05 11:03, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> SD cards are the removable storage for many cameras.
>> Having an SD slot in a portable computer for *photographers*
>
> For the vast majority of people (who *aren't* professional
> photographers), the lack of such a slot is hardly important considering
> how cheap and small card readers are and considering how much space a
> car reader takes up on the side of a laptop. They'd naturally prefer
> that valuable space be used for more versatile ports, making this a
> complete non-issue for most people. Face it: You are in a vocal, but
> *very* small, minority.

Could be - but as Apple are so into the creatives field you would think 
they would support them in a positive fashion.  Nobody likes dongles.

There's tons of unused edge space on the side of the MPB - so that 
argument does not have wings.

Apple's "drive" here is not about what is the best i/o set.  It's about 
thinness for thinness and lowered cost of manufacturing.

>> Having to have a dongle is additional stuff to carry and possibly lose
>> just before it is most urgently needed.
>
> "THE DONGLES - THEY SUCK!! WE HATES THEM!"

Very much agree and I'm glad you do too.

>
> Meanwhile the rest of us realize laptops have *always* had a limited
> number of ports and plan accordingly. Many people realize the reality is
> dongles have been needed with laptops for many years due to the sheer
> number of different devices one might want to connect to a laptop.
> Anyone working in a large corporate environment knows this well, and it
> doesn't apply only to Macs, either. I say suck it up and get some real
> work done, snowflakes!

I've always had laptops (in the recent era) that had USB.  So many 
peripherals of course have USB.  Dongles suck and I don't have, need or 
use any.  (One at work as a backup for Ethernet access is there if 
needed.  Not even sure what drawer it's in).

I don't have other dongles for my laptops.  Indeed the only dongle I do 
have is on my iMac for the DVI to the side display.  That's permanent so 
I don't care.

For laptops, portability, dongles are crap and to be avoided.

As in the YouTube video I posted further up.  For his needs, 3 different 
dongles.  When you travel a lot a single dongle is a dongle too many. 
Whether for inconvenience, cost or losing them and being unable to do 
something you need to do.

-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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#106359

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
Message-ID<050520171154128613%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#106355
In article <cJmdnTJL9uWjBZHEnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>
> >> SD cards are the removable storage for many cameras.
> >> Having an SD slot in a portable computer for *photographers*
> >
> > For the vast majority of people (who *aren't* professional
> > photographers), the lack of such a slot is hardly important considering
> > how cheap and small card readers are and considering how much space a
> > car reader takes up on the side of a laptop. They'd naturally prefer
> > that valuable space be used for more versatile ports, making this a
> > complete non-issue for most people. Face it: You are in a vocal, but
> > *very* small, minority.
> 
> Could be - but as Apple are so into the creatives field you would think 
> they would support them in a positive fashion.  Nobody likes dongles.
> 
> There's tons of unused edge space on the side of the MPB - so that 
> argument does not have wings.

on the outside there's lots of space.

on the inside, definitely not.

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#106363

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-05 12:22 -0400
Message-ID<IPWdnSU-WagzO5HEnZ2dnUU7-XXNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106359
On 2017-05-05 11:54, nospam wrote:
> In article <cJmdnTJL9uWjBZHEnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> SD cards are the removable storage for many cameras.
>>>> Having an SD slot in a portable computer for *photographers*
>>>
>>> For the vast majority of people (who *aren't* professional
>>> photographers), the lack of such a slot is hardly important considering
>>> how cheap and small card readers are and considering how much space a
>>> car reader takes up on the side of a laptop. They'd naturally prefer
>>> that valuable space be used for more versatile ports, making this a
>>> complete non-issue for most people. Face it: You are in a vocal, but
>>> *very* small, minority.
>>
>> Could be - but as Apple are so into the creatives field you would think
>> they would support them in a positive fashion.  Nobody likes dongles.
>>
>> There's tons of unused edge space on the side of the MPB - so that
>> argument does not have wings.
>
> on the outside there's lots of space.
>
> on the inside, definitely not.

On the 15" there is tons of unused volume in there.  Move some 
components that don't need to be near the edge and it's done.

Can't find a good enough internals photo of the 13" to see, but I'd bet 
there's enough room for the reader.

-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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#106390

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2017-05-05 20:49 +0000
Message-ID<en46qlFh2p2U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#106363
On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-05-05 11:54, nospam wrote:
>> In article <cJmdnTJL9uWjBZHEnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> There's tons of unused edge space on the side of the MPB - so that
>>> argument does not have wings.
>>
>> on the outside there's lots of space.
>>
>> on the inside, definitely not.
>
> On the 15" there is tons of unused volume in there.  Move some 
> components that don't need to be near the edge and it's done.

Nope: 

<https://i.imgur.com/W5lkPIf.jpg>

And no, we're not taking your word over the very talented hardware
designers who have created a wildly successful product like the MacBook
Pro. NO SALE. : )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#106450

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2017-05-06 08:38 -0400
Message-ID<jc2dnf-Io-AgXpDEnZ2dnUU7-LfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#106390
On 2017-05-05 16:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2017-05-05 11:54, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <cJmdnTJL9uWjBZHEnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's tons of unused edge space on the side of the MPB - so that
>>>> argument does not have wings.
>>>
>>> on the outside there's lots of space.
>>>
>>> on the inside, definitely not.
>>
>> On the 15" there is tons of unused volume in there.  Move some
>> components that don't need to be near the edge and it's done.
>
> Nope:
>
> <https://i.imgur.com/W5lkPIf.jpg>
>
> And no, we're not taking your word over the very talented hardware
> designers who have created a wildly successful product like the MacBook
> Pro. NO SALE. : )

Lot's of unused surface area there that is much larger than an SD 
interface.  Move the parts as needed. No issue at all for the very 
talented hardware designers at Apple.

-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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