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  QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 02:23 +0000
    Re: QuickTime plug-in? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-20 22:30 -0400
      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 04:20 +0000
    Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-21 16:27 +1300
      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 04:31 +0000
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 04:40 +0000
          Re: QuickTime plug-in? Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:30 -0400
            Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 15:39 +0000
              Re: QuickTime plug-in? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:15 -0400
                Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 16:41 +0000
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-21 13:15 -0400
                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 18:16 +0000
                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:59 -0600
                        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 19:10 +0000
                          Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 13:34 -0600
                            Re: QuickTime plug-in? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:38 -0400
                              Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 13:45 -0600
                                Re: QuickTime plug-in? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:49 -0400
                                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 13:52 -0600
                                Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 20:45 +0000
                                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 19:47 -0600
                                Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-22 09:57 +1300
                                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 23:27 +0000
                                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 19:48 -0600
                                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-22 03:24 +0000
                                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 20:09 -0600
                                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-22 03:27 +0000
                                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-03-21 19:44 -0600
                                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 05:06 +0000
                                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-24 13:54 +1300
                        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 20:42 +0000
                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-21 15:08 -0400
                        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 19:11 +0000
                          Re: QuickTime plug-in? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:15 -0400
                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 00:56 +0000
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 00:55 +0000
              Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 17:02 +0000
                Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 18:15 +0000
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 20:08 +0000
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 00:54 +0000
            Re: QuickTime plug-in? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 00:53 +0000
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 01:08 -0400
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-21 15:27 -0400
      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 16:58 +0000
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 20:33 +0000
          Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-21 22:29 +0000
            Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 22:39 +0000
            Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-22 04:38 +0000
              Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-22 05:13 +0000
              Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-22 18:31 +1300
                Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-22 06:00 +0000
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-22 19:54 +1300
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-22 18:50 +1100
                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-22 21:44 +1300
                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-22 21:47 +1100
                        Re: QuickTime plug-in? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-23 00:24 +1300
                          Re: QuickTime plug-in? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-23 08:18 +1100
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-22 16:12 +0000
                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-22 16:55 +0000
                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-22 19:08 +0000
                  Re: QuickTime plug-in? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-22 13:52 -0700
                    Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-22 23:35 +0000
                      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-22 16:40 -0700
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-24 09:44 +1100
          Re: QuickTime plug-in? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-24 10:04 +1100
      Re: QuickTime plug-in? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-21 15:21 -0400
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-21 15:32 -0400
    Re: QuickTime plug-in? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-21 05:45 +0000
    Re: QuickTime plug-in? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-21 07:50 -0400
      Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 12:13 +0000
        Re: QuickTime plug-in? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-21 08:36 -0400
          Re: QuickTime plug-in? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 13:02 +0000
            Re: QuickTime plug-in? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-21 09:32 -0400
    Re: QuickTime plug-in? michaelunowho@gmail.com - 2017-03-21 07:50 -0700

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#102693 — QuickTime plug-in?

I was just trying to play a video that I posted on my website
some years ago. In Firefox, I got the error message, "Video
format or MIME type is not supported." In Safari, it said,
"Missing Plug-in." When I clicked on that notice, I got a 
new window that said, "This webpage has content that requires the 
'QuickTime' plug-in. To view this content you need this plug-in. 
For more information, visit the plug-in's website." But when I
clicked "More Info," I was taken to the main Safari site. A 
search for "QuickTime plug-in" on Apple's website turned up no
results.

The video in question is in .mov format. Do I need to convert
the video (and other .mov videos on my website) to some other
format in order for them to be viewable nowadays? Or are there
different variations in the .mov format and it's still usable
if I use some other form of .mov?


Patty

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#102694

In article <oaq2qe$6q7$1@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter
<patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> I was just trying to play a video that I posted on my website
> some years ago. In Firefox, I got the error message, "Video
> format or MIME type is not supported." In Safari, it said,
> "Missing Plug-in." When I clicked on that notice, I got a 
> new window that said, "This webpage has content that requires the 
> 'QuickTime' plug-in. To view this content you need this plug-in. 
> For more information, visit the plug-in's website." But when I
> clicked "More Info," I was taken to the main Safari site. A 
> search for "QuickTime plug-in" on Apple's website turned up no
> results.
> 
> The video in question is in .mov format. Do I need to convert
> the video (and other .mov videos on my website) to some other
> format in order for them to be viewable nowadays? Or are there
> different variations in the .mov format and it's still usable
> if I use some other form of .mov?

open the .mov in quicktime player and determine what codec was used.

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#102697

In article <200320172230463657%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>open the .mov in quicktime player and determine what codec was used.

According to the Inspector in QT10, it's H.264.


Patty

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#102696

Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> I was just trying to play a video that I posted on my website
> some years ago. In Firefox, I got the error message, "Video
> format or MIME type is not supported." In Safari, it said,
> "Missing Plug-in." When I clicked on that notice, I got a 
> new window that said, "This webpage has content that requires the 
> 'QuickTime' plug-in. To view this content you need this plug-in. 
> For more information, visit the plug-in's website." But when I
> clicked "More Info," I was taken to the main Safari site. A 
> search for "QuickTime plug-in" on Apple's website turned up no
> results.

The QuickTime plugin is a standard one included with the OS, but it has
been disabled by default in the last few OS versions.

https://support.apple.com/HT205081

In addition, some web browsers are now actively blocking most plugins,
so it might not work in Firefox even if you enable the plugin.

> The video in question is in .mov format. Do I need to convert
> the video (and other .mov videos on my website) to some other
> format in order for them to be viewable nowadays? Or are there
> different variations in the .mov format and it's still usable
> if I use some other form of .mov?

Converting the video to a more modern cross-platform format (e.g.
MPEG-4/H.264) would be a better choice, as many people will be unable to
view QuickTime video from web sites without a lot of mucking around.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#102698

In article <1n38veb.1vo28xo1kfr128N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>The QuickTime plugin is a standard one included with the OS, but it has
>been disabled by default in the last few OS versions.
>
>https://support.apple.com/HT205081

Thanks, David, that page was very helpful. I wonder why I got no
results when I searched for "QuickTime plug-in" on Apple's website.
I thought that search included support.apple.com.

I found the instructions for reinstalling the plug-in on my MacBook.
The video is working for me now, but of course that doesn't let me
share it with other people. (Since I originated the video, I already
had it in a viewable form off the web.)


>In addition, some web browsers are now actively blocking most plugins,
>so it might not work in Firefox even if you enable the plugin.

It's working in Safari, but not Firefox. I might be able to do
something about FF, but now that I know that that won't fix the
problem for other people, I'm not sure it's worth it.


>Converting the video to a more modern cross-platform format (e.g.
>MPEG-4/H.264) would be a better choice, as many people will be unable to
>view QuickTime video from web sites without a lot of mucking around.

Yeah, apparently not.

I'm not seeing any codec options when I choose Export from QT Player 10.
It just asks what resolution I want and for what device. In QT7 Pro, I 
see several export options, including MPEG-4. Do you recommend that?

BTW, what are we all going to do when QT7 Pro eventually stops working
with some future Mac OS? I don't want to have to buy some expensive
video-editing program!


Patty

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#102699

BTW, I just discovered that the .mov file on my website is actually
just an 85KB pointer to an .m4v file that has the actual video.
However, that doesn't change the results of the Inspector, which
says that it's an H.264 video.


Patty

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#102726

On 2017-03-21 04:40:26 +0000, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> said:

> However, that doesn't change the results of the Inspector, which says 
> that it's an H.264 video.

So the real mystery is why QuickTime does not just play it.  That is 
about as universal a format as you could expect to get.  QuickTime, 
iTunes, and QuickLook in Finder should all play it.

Does it make a difference if you play the file directly, rather than 
use this .mov pointer?

A.

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#102733

In article <oard97$o98$1@dont-email.me>, Alrescha  <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Does it make a difference if you play the file directly, rather than 
>use this .mov pointer?

When I put the direct URL to the m4v file, Firefox wants to download
it. I even tried changing the prefs in FF for m4v files, but opening
them in FF wasn't an option.


Patty

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#102735

In article <oarhg3$8ia$1@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter
<patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> >Does it make a difference if you play the file directly, rather than 
> >use this .mov pointer?
> 
> When I put the direct URL to the m4v file, Firefox wants to download
> it. I even tried changing the prefs in FF for m4v files, but opening
> them in FF wasn't an option.

that's an issue with the web server. however, you should be able to
play it in qtplayer.

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#102737

In article <210320171215433721%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>In article <oarhg3$8ia$1@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter
><patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When I put the direct URL to the m4v file, Firefox wants to download
>> it. I even tried changing the prefs in FF for m4v files, but opening
>> them in FF wasn't an option.
>
>that's an issue with the web server. however, you should be able to
>play it in qtplayer.

I can play the file anywhere I want; it's my video, so I already have
the file on my computer. The question is how I can make this video and 
other old videos on my website easily viewable by other people. IOW,
viewable via a web browser; not making them download a video and use 
some other application on their computer to view it.


Patty

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#102742

On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 12:41:35 -0400, Patty Winter wrote
(in article <oarl3u$m1n$2@dont-email.me>):

> 
> In article <210320171215433721%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <oarhg3$8ia$1@dont-email.me>, Patty Winter
>> <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I put the direct URL to the m4v file, Firefox wants to download
>>> it. I even tried changing the prefs in FF for m4v files, but opening
>>> them in FF wasn't an option.
>> 
>> that's an issue with the web server. however, you should be able to
>> play it in qtplayer.
> 
> I can play the file anywhere I want; it's my video, so I already have
> the file on my computer. The question is how I can make this video and 
> other old videos on my website easily viewable by other people. IOW,
> viewable via a web browser; not making them download a video and use 
> some other application on their computer to view it.
> 
> 
> Patty
> 

Give us the link and we'll try it.


-- 
Nelson

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#102744

In article <0001HW.D4F6D7D703174273B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>,
Nelson  <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>Give us the link and we'll try it.

Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
QT plug-in.

http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html


Patty

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#102750

In article <oarqmk$amb$3@dont-email.me>,
 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> 
> In article <0001HW.D4F6D7D703174273B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>,
> Nelson  <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >Give us the link and we'll try it.
> 
> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
> QT plug-in.
> 
> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html

Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.

Andre

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#102753

In article <agisaak-703F45.12594521032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
>In article <oarqmk$amb$3@dont-email.me>,
> Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
>> QT plug-in.
>> 
>> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
>
>Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.

What system software are you running?


Patty

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#102761

In article <oartqr$n9s$2@dont-email.me>,
 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> 
> In article <agisaak-703F45.12594521032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
> >In article <oarqmk$amb$3@dont-email.me>,
> > Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
> >> QT plug-in.
> >> 
> >> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
> >
> >Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.
> 
> What system software are you running?
> 
> 
> Patty

macOS 10.12.3/Safari 10/0/3

Andre

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#102762

In article <agisaak-C62DE6.13343521032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:

> > >> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
> > >> QT plug-in.
> > >> 
> > >> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
> > >
> > >Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.
> > 
> > What system software are you running?
> > 
> 
> macOS 10.12.3/Safari 10/0/3

same setup here and it doesn't work.

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#102763

In article <210320171538354034%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <agisaak-C62DE6.13343521032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > > >> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
> > > >> QT plug-in.
> > > >> 
> > > >> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
> > > >
> > > >Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.
> > > 
> > > What system software are you running?
> > > 
> > 
> > macOS 10.12.3/Safari 10/0/3
> 
> same setup here and it doesn't work.

Well, I'm getting a cat walking around on a bed.

However, it occurs to me that I do actually have QT 7 installed 
alongside QT 10. That may or may not be relevant.

/Library/QuickTime/ contains 2 items:

AppleIntermediateCodec.component
AppleMPEG2Codec.component

I'm wondering if the latter might be involved since it has a copyright 
of 2011 leading me to believe it was installed by QuickTime 7.

Andre

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#102765

In article <agisaak-3C476C.13450321032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:

> > 
> > > > >> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
> > > > >> QT plug-in.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
> > > > >
> > > > >Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.
> > > > 
> > > > What system software are you running?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > macOS 10.12.3/Safari 10/0/3
> > 
> > same setup here and it doesn't work.
> 
> Well, I'm getting a cat walking around on a bed.
> 
> However, it occurs to me that I do actually have QT 7 installed 
> alongside QT 10. That may or may not be relevant.

i have qt7 installed and use it regularly. it will be a very sad day
when it no longer works.

something else is going on.

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#102766

In article <210320171549524647%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <agisaak-3C476C.13450321032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > > > >> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
> > > > > >> QT plug-in.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What system software are you running?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > macOS 10.12.3/Safari 10/0/3
> > > 
> > > same setup here and it doesn't work.
> > 
> > Well, I'm getting a cat walking around on a bed.
> > 
> > However, it occurs to me that I do actually have QT 7 installed 
> > alongside QT 10. That may or may not be relevant.
> 
> i have qt7 installed and use it regularly. it will be a very sad day
> when it no longer works.
> 
> something else is going on.

poking around I also have ~/Library/Components/XiphQT.component

But IRC that had something to do with getting the ogg vorbis files on 
wikipedia to work properly.

Andre

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#102771

On 2017-03-21, Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
> In article <210320171538354034%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <agisaak-C62DE6.13343521032017@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>> Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Okay, but I doubt that it will work for anyone who doesn't have the
>>>>>> QT plug-in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.wintertime.com/Personal/Portia/Portia-bed.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Works fine for me -- no QT plugin installed.
>>>> 
>>>> What system software are you running?
>>> 
>>> macOS 10.12.3/Safari 10/0/3
>> 
>> same setup here and it doesn't work.
>
> Well, I'm getting a cat walking around on a bed.
>
> However, it occurs to me that I do actually have QT 7 installed 
> alongside QT 10. That may or may not be relevant.
>
> /Library/QuickTime/ contains 2 items:
>
> AppleIntermediateCodec.component
> AppleMPEG2Codec.component

...and what do you have in /Library/Internet Plug-Ins?

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