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| Started by | "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| First post | 2017-03-08 08:44 +0000 |
| Last post | 2017-03-12 23:19 -0400 |
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Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 08:44 +0000
Re: Mac Malware android <here@there.was> - 2017-03-08 10:20 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-03-08 10:38 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-03-08 09:39 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-08 15:07 +0000
Re: Mac Malware michaelunowho@gmail.com - 2017-03-09 14:34 -0800
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 18:22 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-09 23:27 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 03:23 -0500
Re: Mac Malware android <here@there.was> - 2017-03-10 09:43 +0100
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 06:16 -0500
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-13 07:26 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:24 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-08 11:17 -0500
Re: Mac Malware dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-09 07:43 +1100
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:39 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-10 18:55 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2017-03-09 14:25 -0500
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:31 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 11:44 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-10 16:45 +0000
Knock-knock (Was: Re: Mac Malware) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 11:10 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:28 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 16:32 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:53 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-10 11:22 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 13:45 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-10 19:27 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 13:41 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 20:05 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 19:39 -0500
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 16:44 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-12 16:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-13 07:22 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-13 14:42 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:36 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 09:59 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:04 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 14:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 15:45 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:09 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 14:48 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-13 11:50 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 22:25 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-13 14:06 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-13 14:45 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:38 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 15:47 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-15 10:18 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 13:21 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:13 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-17 04:07 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 17:25 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:11 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:14 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:49 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-13 15:22 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-13 15:35 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-13 11:50 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:40 -0400
Re: Mac Malware YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2017-04-03 12:19 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-10 14:14 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:53 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-11 09:04 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 16:26 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-11 17:24 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:54 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-11 17:01 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-11 17:21 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-11 23:23 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-12 04:23 -0600
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-10 19:25 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-10 14:04 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-10 23:24 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-11 13:35 +1100
Re: Mac Malware Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-03-10 19:07 -0800
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 22:11 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 08:14 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 11:27 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-03-11 12:13 -0600
Re: Mac Malware Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-03-11 18:16 -0800
Re: Mac Malware befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-03-13 09:42 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:38 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 11:03 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 11:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 13:55 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 14:17 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 08:51 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-11 17:58 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-03-11 18:10 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-12 14:36 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-12 11:34 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-13 22:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-16 13:27 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-16 19:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2017-03-11 23:14 -0500
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-11 23:31 -0500
Re: Mac Malware John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2017-03-12 23:18 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-12 23:20 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 14:16 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-14 09:48 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-15 01:21 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-14 15:19 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-14 15:01 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-14 22:13 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-14 15:35 -0700
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-14 15:45 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 00:16 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-15 10:55 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 00:14 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-15 10:54 -0700
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:43 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-12 16:14 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 16:34 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-12 20:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 22:26 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-13 07:31 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-15 08:31 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 09:59 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 08:59 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 22:08 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 18:48 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-21 18:57 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 15:00 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 08:59 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 14:16 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 22:08 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 18:48 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 23:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 23:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-17 13:56 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 16:01 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-18 10:17 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 21:53 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-19 10:48 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:23 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-18 11:17 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-19 16:44 +0000
Re: Mac Malware befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-03-20 11:02 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-17 04:01 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 15:30 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:10 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-18 14:56 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-19 16:43 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-19 16:57 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-17 03:59 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-21 18:57 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:06 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-23 07:51 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 20:42 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-23 07:51 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 05:09 +0000
Re: Mac Malware John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2017-03-12 23:19 -0400
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| From | Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-10 19:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o9vpfh$lnt$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102159 |
In article <o9uqtb$jg7$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows malware > that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, it's the next > person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling a friend, and > this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that person as a friend? So you're saying that I, as a Mac user who remains untouched by *ANY* malware at *ANY* time since I first turned on a Mac nearly 30 years ago, am supposed to run worthless, resource-sucking, bug-infested, performance-dropping, space-wasting "anti-malware" crap on my machine to protect your malware-magnet Winblows box? Not friggin' likely, chum. Doesn't matter if I'm your best friend, your worst enemy, something in between, or we don't know each other from Adam - Malware on your windows box is *YOUR* problem to worry about, prevent, and/or recover from, not mine. Hell, while we're at it, why not mandate that I take responsibility for raising your kid, and keeping you from developing rectal cancer? Maybe I ought to see about making sure your 401K is paid up, too? How about I pay your taxes for you as well? Or maybe I could go to the dentist and have that root-canal you've been dreading for you? After all, what are friends for, right? All of those are just as likely as the idea that I should do so much as THINK about whether your shit-box might catch something from my Mac, never mind me bothering to take any steps to prevent it. Your malware isn't my problem. -- If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-10 22:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <100320172211292003%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #102183 |
In article <o9vpfh$lnt$2@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > In article <o9uqtb$jg7$1@news.albasani.net>, > Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > > In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows malware > > that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, it's the next > > person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling a friend, and > > this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that person as a friend? > > So you're saying that I, as a Mac user who remains untouched by *ANY* > malware at *ANY* time since I first turned on a Mac nearly 30 years ago, > am supposed to run worthless, resource-sucking, bug-infested, > performance-dropping, space-wasting "anti-malware" crap on my machine to > protect your malware-magnet Winblows box? Not friggin' likely, chum. > Doesn't matter if I'm your best friend, your worst enemy, something in > between, or we don't know each other from Adam - Malware on your windows > box is *YOUR* problem to worry about, prevent, and/or recover from, not > mine. > > Hell, while we're at it, why not mandate that I take responsibility for > raising your kid, and keeping you from developing rectal cancer? Maybe I > ought to see about making sure your 401K is paid up, too? How about I > pay your taxes for you as well? Or maybe I could go to the dentist and > have that root-canal you've been dreading for you? After all, what are > friends for, right? > > All of those are just as likely as the idea that I should do so much as > THINK about whether your shit-box might catch something from my Mac, > never mind me bothering to take any steps to prevent it. Your malware > isn't my problem. +1
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 08:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eihpuoFmva1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102183 |
Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > In article <o9uqtb$jg7$1@news.albasani.net>, > Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > >> In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows malware >> that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, it's the next >> person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling a friend, and >> this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that person as a friend? > > So you're saying that I, as a Mac user who remains untouched by *ANY* > malware at *ANY* time since I first turned on a Mac nearly 30 years ago, > am supposed to run worthless, resource-sucking, bug-infested, > performance-dropping, space-wasting "anti-malware" crap on my machine to > protect your malware-magnet Winblows box? Not friggin' likely, chum. > Doesn't matter if I'm your best friend, your worst enemy, something in > between, or we don't know each other from Adam - Malware on your windows > box is *YOUR* problem to worry about, prevent, and/or recover from, not > mine. > > Hell, while we're at it, why not mandate that I take responsibility for > raising your kid, and keeping you from developing rectal cancer? Maybe I > ought to see about making sure your 401K is paid up, too? How about I > pay your taxes for you as well? Or maybe I could go to the dentist and > have that root-canal you've been dreading for you? After all, what are > friends for, right? > > All of those are just as likely as the idea that I should do so much as > THINK about whether your shit-box might catch something from my Mac, > never mind me bothering to take any steps to prevent it. Your malware > isn't my problem. ^ This. : D -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 11:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoc7nv7.376.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #102183 |
In message <o9vpfh$lnt$2@dont-email.me> Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > In article <o9uqtb$jg7$1@news.albasani.net>, > Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: >> In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows malware >> that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, it's the next >> person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling a friend, and >> this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that person as a friend? > So you're saying that I, as a Mac user who remains untouched by *ANY* > malware at *ANY* time since I first turned on a Mac nearly 30 years ago, > am supposed to run worthless, resource-sucking, bug-infested, > performance-dropping, space-wasting "anti-malware" crap on my machine to > protect your malware-magnet Winblows box? Not friggin' likely, chum. Exactly. You get to wipe your own ass. -- You have severe reading comprehension problems that I can not be held responsible for.
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| From | Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 12:13 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoc8fim.mqc.timmcn@sugaree.local> |
| In reply to | #102183 |
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:07:34 -0800, Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > In article <o9uqtb$jg7$1@news.albasani.net>, > Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > > >> In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows >> malware that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, >> it's the next person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling >> a friend, and this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that >> person as a friend? > > So you're saying that I, as a Mac user who remains untouched by *ANY* > malware at *ANY* time since I first turned on a Mac nearly 30 years > ago, am supposed to run worthless, resource-sucking, bug-infested, > performance-dropping, space-wasting "anti-malware" crap on my machine > to protect your malware-magnet Winblows box? Not friggin' likely, > chum. Doesn't matter if I'm your best friend, your worst enemy, > something in between, or we don't know each other from Adam - Malware > on your windows box is *YOUR* problem to worry about, prevent, and/or > recover from, not mine. > > Hell, while we're at it, why not mandate that I take responsibility > for raising your kid, and keeping you from developing rectal cancer? > Maybe I ought to see about making sure your 401K is paid up, too? How > about I pay your taxes for you as well? Or maybe I could go to the > dentist and have that root-canal you've been dreading for you? After > all, what are friends for, right? > > All of those are just as likely as the idea that I should do so much > as THINK about whether your shit-box might catch something from my > Mac, never mind me bothering to take any steps to prevent it. Your > malware isn't my problem. In short, "I am not my brother's keeper."
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| From | Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 18:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <oa2asf$cla$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102205 |
In article <slrnoc8fim.mqc.timmcn@sugaree.local>, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:07:34 -0800, Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > > In article <o9uqtb$jg7$1@news.albasani.net>, > > Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > > > > > >> In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows > >> malware that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, > >> it's the next person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling > >> a friend, and this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that > >> person as a friend? > > > > So you're saying that I, as a Mac user who remains untouched by *ANY* > > malware at *ANY* time since I first turned on a Mac nearly 30 years > > ago, am supposed to run worthless, resource-sucking, bug-infested, > > performance-dropping, space-wasting "anti-malware" crap on my machine > > to protect your malware-magnet Winblows box? Not friggin' likely, > > chum. Doesn't matter if I'm your best friend, your worst enemy, > > something in between, or we don't know each other from Adam - Malware > > on your windows box is *YOUR* problem to worry about, prevent, and/or > > recover from, not mine. > > > > Hell, while we're at it, why not mandate that I take responsibility > > for raising your kid, and keeping you from developing rectal cancer? > > Maybe I ought to see about making sure your 401K is paid up, too? How > > about I pay your taxes for you as well? Or maybe I could go to the > > dentist and have that root-canal you've been dreading for you? After > > all, what are friends for, right? > > > > All of those are just as likely as the idea that I should do so much > > as THINK about whether your shit-box might catch something from my > > Mac, never mind me bothering to take any steps to prevent it. Your > > malware isn't my problem. > > In short, "I am not my brother's keeper." Yep, that too. -- If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
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| From | befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) |
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| Date | 2017-03-13 09:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1n2tjyf.1rdab1ddus1yiN%befr@eaglesoft.de> |
| In reply to | #102205 |
Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > In short, "I am not my brother's keeper." Well, I am. It´s a nice little printer ... SCNR ;-)
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 11:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <e7udnRGRnvybtVnFnZ2dnUU7-UHNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #102159 |
On 2017-03-10 13:22, Ken Springer wrote: > In a previous malware thread, one poster said that any Windows malware > that he/she accidentally passes along is not his problem, it's the next > person's problem. If that's someone I've been calling a friend, and > this is the attitude towards me, then do I want that person as a friend? If someone operates an OS that is prone to, and target of malware then they need such protection in the first place. So I don't feel much need to protect outgoing messages. I don't let friends operate Windows without at least AVast or similar. The sites I visit and the e-mails I open are not likely to have malware distribution. Not saying I can't get them, it's just not likely. While I'm not saying the day will never come that we won't need AV on Macs, that day has not come. -- "If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics." ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 11:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoc7mhb.376.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #102153 |
In message <DxAwA.144254$gG5.140098@fx08.fr7> David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: > If one doesn't have such a third-party program, how would anyone KNOW > they actually /had/ malware on their Apple machine, let alone have any > notion of how to remove same?!!! Well, since the odds of anyone actually /having/ malware are near zero... -- You know, Rick, I have many a friend in Casablanca, but somehow, just because you despise me, you are the only one I trust.
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| From | "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 11:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <isRwA.228092$kC.206942@fx16.fr7> |
| In reply to | #102188 |
On 11/03/2017 11:03, Lewis wrote: > In message <DxAwA.144254$gG5.140098@fx08.fr7> David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: >> If one doesn't have such a third-party program, how would anyone KNOW >> they actually /had/ malware on their Apple machine, let alone have any >> notion of how to remove same?!!! > > Well, since the odds of anyone actually /having/ malware are near > zero... Well then, Lewis ........ just in case, I installed ClamXav, on the 30 day 'trial' basis, and ran it. Here is the result of the scan:- https://www.dropbox.com/s/el5lnqq1mtr1ppm/ClamXav%20findings%2011032017.tiff?dl=0 My intention is to simply delete each of the email files and then empty the Trash. Am I right in thinking that the 'problem' will then be solved? -- "The important thing is not to stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 13:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoc80j4.19op.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #102192 |
In message <isRwA.228092$kC.206942@fx16.fr7> David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: > On 11/03/2017 11:03, Lewis wrote: >> In message <DxAwA.144254$gG5.140098@fx08.fr7> David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: >>> If one doesn't have such a third-party program, how would anyone KNOW >>> they actually /had/ malware on their Apple machine, let alone have any >>> notion of how to remove same?!!! >> >> Well, since the odds of anyone actually /having/ malware are near >> zero... > Well then, Lewis ........ just in case, I installed ClamXav, on the 30 > day 'trial' basis, and ran it. > Here is the result of the scan:- > https://www.dropbox.com/s/el5lnqq1mtr1ppm/ClamXav%20findings%2011032017.tiff?dl=0 And? I see nothing there that would "infect" a Mac. > My intention is to simply delete each of the email files and then empty > the Trash. Am I right in thinking that the 'problem' will then be solved? Depends on what you think the problem is. Your mail server sending along mail with Windows trojans is a problem, I agree, but that is something you need to take up with your email provider. -- Let the Wookiee win.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 14:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eiif7uFr53rU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102192 |
David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: > On 11/03/2017 11:03, Lewis wrote: >> In message <DxAwA.144254$gG5.140098@fx08.fr7> David B. >> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: >>> If one doesn't have such a third-party program, how would anyone KNOW >>> they actually /had/ malware on their Apple machine, let alone have any >>> notion of how to remove same?!!! >> >> Well, since the odds of anyone actually /having/ malware are near >> zero... > > Well then, Lewis ........ just in case, I installed ClamXav, on the 30 > day 'trial' basis, and ran it. > > Here is the result of the scan:- > https://www.dropbox.com/s/el5lnqq1mtr1ppm/ClamXav%20findings%2011032017.tiff?dl=0 None of those run on macOS. You've found nothing harmful. Again, that's typically all macOS antivirus scanners find: shit that won't hurt your Mac anyway. > My intention is to simply delete each of the email files and then empty > the Trash. Am I right in thinking that the 'problem' will then be solved? If you delete email files outside of your email client you may cause your email client to malfunction since it will no doubt expect those files to be there. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-12 08:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2_7xA.162083$Tb4.21117@fx03.fr7> |
| In reply to | #102194 |
On 11/03/2017 14:17, Jolly Roger wrote: > David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: >> On 11/03/2017 11:03, Lewis wrote: >>> In message <DxAwA.144254$gG5.140098@fx08.fr7> David B. >>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: >>>> If one doesn't have such a third-party program, how would anyone KNOW >>>> they actually /had/ malware on their Apple machine, let alone have any >>>> notion of how to remove same?!!! >>> >>> Well, since the odds of anyone actually /having/ malware are near >>> zero... >> >> Well then, Lewis ........ just in case, I installed ClamXav, on the 30 >> day 'trial' basis, and ran it. >> >> Here is the result of the scan:- >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/el5lnqq1mtr1ppm/ClamXav%20findings%2011032017.tiff?dl=0 > > None of those run on macOS. You've found nothing harmful. Again, that's > typically all macOS antivirus scanners find: shit that won't hurt your Mac > anyway. > >> My intention is to simply delete each of the email files and then empty >> the Trash. Am I right in thinking that the 'problem' will then be solved? > > If you delete email files outside of your email client you may cause your > email client to malfunction since it will no doubt expect those files to be > there. Your comments noted ....... but I did it anyway! Here's the result of the latest scan:- https://www.dropbox.com/s/rbk9rwnsq0g3pxk/Scan%20result%20-%20clean%20-%20ClamXav%2012032017.tiff?dl=0 Mind you, I found these entries in the 'Log' ....... 11 Mar 2017, 20:50:52 Starting system scan… Live Infections Found: 0 Live Infections Found: 0 Scanning selected files… LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 12945 != 7091 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 44034 != 33975 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 11571 != 13478 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 5703 != 5777 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 6726 != 6705 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 19613 != 4634 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 10274 != 5799 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 44435 != 60966 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 39301 != 27934 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 49443 != 46746 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 88769 != 222692 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 82077 != 98929 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 82077 != 93962 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 39319 != 108423 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 780093 != 700822 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 50600 != 81117 LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 58879 != 76537 LibClamAV info: scancws: Error decompressing SWF file. Scanning what was decompressed. LibClamAV Warning: SWF: declared output length != inflated stream size, 21496 != 5508 ----------- SCAN SUMMARY ----------- Known viruses: 6826944 Engine version: 0.99.2 Scanned directories: 274547 Scanned files: 732374 Infected files: 0 Total errors: 268 Data scanned: 120116.98 MB Data read: 228236.15 MB (ratio 0.53:1) Time: 39961.498 sec (666 m 1 s) = NOT anything I'm going to lose sleep over! ;-) *My thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread* Cheers!
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| From | Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 17:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oa1drh$sfp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102192 |
For your reference, records indicate that "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/el5lnqq1mtr1ppm/ClamXav%20findings%2011032017.tiff?dl=0 > > My intention is to simply delete each of the email files and then empty > the Trash. Am I right in thinking that the 'problem' will then be solved? The “problem” might also be solved by doing nothing. All I see is that you’ve likely received some spam recently. It’s probably already been marked as such and is either sitting around idle in your Junk folder or sent to Trash for deletion by Mail on whatever schedule you have set. If getting spam bothers you, don’t babysit your Inbox with AV software, but rather take more aggressive actions to eliminate *any* spam you’re receiving. I normally suggest using disposable email addresses for that. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-11 18:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <110320171810104033%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #102203 |
In article <oa1drh$sfp$1@dont-email.me>, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: >For your reference, records indicate that >"David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote: > >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/el5lnqq1mtr1ppm/ClamXav%20findings%2011032017.tiff? >> dl=0 >> >> My intention is to simply delete each of the email files and then empty >> the Trash. Am I right in thinking that the 'problem' will then be solved? > >The “problem” might also be solved by doing nothing. All I see is >that you’ve likely received some spam recently. It’s probably already >been marked as such and is either sitting around idle in your Junk >folder or sent to Trash for deletion by Mail on whatever schedule you >have set. > >If getting spam bothers you, don’t babysit your Inbox with AV software, >but rather take more aggressive actions to eliminate *any* spam you’re >receiving. I normally suggest using disposable email addresses for >that. And ensuring you mark mails as spam. That way you can train your mail client to do the job for you. -- "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf
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| From | Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-12 14:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oa3md4$111$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102204 |
For your reference, records indicate that Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > And ensuring you mark mails as spam. That way you can train your mail > client to do the job for you. It certainly won’t hurt, but the truth is that if you eliminate most spam by expiring a compromised email address, Mail does a pretty terrible job when it comes to classifying Junk messages. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-12 11:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <120320171134469432%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #102223 |
Doc O'Leary; > ...but the truth is that if you eliminate most > spam by expiring a compromised email address, Mail does a pretty > terrible job when it comes to classifying Junk messages. I don't think it makes sense to cancel an expired e-mail address. The e-mail address that draws the most spam for me is also used by hundreds of legitimate businesses, charities, and the like. No way would I abandon it over about five percent spam. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-13 22:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oa77fr$dir$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102224 |
For your reference, records indicate that Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > Doc O'Leary; > > > ...but the truth is that if you eliminate most > > spam by expiring a compromised email address, Mail does a pretty > > terrible job when it comes to classifying Junk messages. > > I don't think it makes sense to cancel an expired e-mail address. The > e-mail address that draws the most spam for me is also used by hundreds > of legitimate businesses, charities, and the like. No way would I > abandon it over about five percent spam. Unless you’re running your own email server, you likely have no idea about how much spam is *actually* being sent your way. Or how many legitimate emails are being discarded as false positives. Or *which* of those hundreds of organizations are the ones who has sold you out to spammers. Even if you don’t ditch a legacy email address, there are a ton of good reasons to give someone you don’t trust an email you can get rid of easily. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 13:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <160320171327057242%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #102283 |
Davoud: > > I don't think it makes sense to cancel an expired e-mail address. The > > e-mail address that draws the most spam for me is also used by hundreds > > of legitimate businesses, charities, and the like. No way would I > > abandon it over about five percent spam. Doc O'Leary: > Unless you’re running your own email server, you likely have no idea > about how much spam is *actually* being sent your way. davidillig.com, my own e-mail server. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Doc O'Leary <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 19:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oaeq28$l78$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102422 |
For your reference, records indicate that Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > Doc O'Leary: > > Unless you’re running your own email server, you likely have no idea > > about how much spam is *actually* being sent your way. > > davidillig.com, my own e-mail server. Splitting hairs, I see: davidillig.com mail is handled by 10 mail.davidillig.com. mail.davidillig.com has address 64.26.60.153 153.60.26.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mx0.mfg.onr.siteprotect.com. So it’s unclear how that is managed by you rather than Hostway; server logs would go farther to demonstrate how much or little spam you receive. But you do not seem to use an address on it in your From: line or otherwise non-obfuscated. So, regardless of the server, you’re jumping through other hoops to keep spam from easily finding you. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it will naturally skew the statistics compared to the average person who just hands out their same “me@example.com” contact information to everyone without even thinking. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly
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