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  Opening a file that's inside a package isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2017-01-12 11:28 -0800
    Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-12 19:47 +0000
      Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-12 20:43 +0000
        Re: Opening a file that's inside a package me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2017-01-14 16:45 +0000
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-14 17:10 +0000
            Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-01-14 12:35 -0500
              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-14 19:39 +0000
                Re: Opening a file that's inside a package shima.tetsuo@dai.tokyo.teikoku (島鉄雄) - 2017-01-22 04:56 +0000
                  Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-22 05:33 +0000
            Re: Opening a file that's inside a package me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2017-01-14 19:27 +0000
              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-14 19:40 +0000
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-01-14 20:18 +0100
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-14 19:20 +0000
            Re: Opening a file that's inside a package me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2017-01-15 16:13 +0000
              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-16 15:24 +0000
                Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-16 16:07 +0000
                  Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-16 21:59 +0000
      Re: Opening a file that's inside a package isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2017-01-12 20:29 -0800
        Re: Opening a file that's inside a package befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-01-13 09:50 +0100
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2017-01-13 09:24 -0800
            Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-14 02:31 +0000
              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2017-01-13 20:46 -0800
                Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-14 06:41 +0000
    Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 15:05 -0500
      Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-12 20:09 +0000
        Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 15:22 -0500
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-12 20:40 +0000
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-01-12 16:35 -0500
          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-12 22:11 +0000
            Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-12 22:19 +0000
              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-13 03:11 +0000
                Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-13 04:09 +0000
                  Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-13 08:07 +0000
              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-13 18:35 -0800
                Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-14 06:41 +0000
                  Re: Opening a file that's inside a package "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-01-18 20:57 +0100
                    Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-01-18 19:58 +0000
                      Re: Opening a file that's inside a package "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-01-20 19:18 +0100
                        Re: Opening a file that's inside a package John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2017-01-21 18:13 -0800
                          Re: Opening a file that's inside a package "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-01-27 00:07 +0100
                            Re: Opening a file that's inside a package John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2017-01-29 15:50 -0800
                              Re: Opening a file that's inside a package "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-01-30 16:24 +0100
    Re: Opening a file that's inside a package Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-01-12 22:06 +0000

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#98625

On 2017-01-13, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> In article <1mzsb2f.ed7x0817ipo8wN%befr@eaglesoft.de>,
>  befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) wrote:
>
>> isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > What I have is an SQLite database in a "wrapper" (why, I don't know; 
>> > maybe to keep folks from poking around in it), and an open source SQLite
>> > browser. The Browser doesn't support the "drag the file into the window"
>> > model for opening, and I got tired of opening the wrapper and dragging
>> > the actual database file to the desktop so the "Open" dialog would see
>> > it.
>> 
>> Maybe just make an alias of the database-file, put it whereever you want
>> and open that from the browser.
>
> Tried that; the SQLite browser wouldn't do it.

Which SQLite browser?

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#98627

In article <edtgr4FuaneU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2017-01-13, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> > In article <1mzsb2f.ed7x0817ipo8wN%befr@eaglesoft.de>,
> >  befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) wrote:
> >
> >> isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > What I have is an SQLite database in a "wrapper" (why, I don't know; 
> >> > maybe to keep folks from poking around in it), and an open source SQLite
> >> > browser. The Browser doesn't support the "drag the file into the window"
> >> > model for opening, and I got tired of opening the wrapper and dragging
> >> > the actual database file to the desktop so the "Open" dialog would see
> >> > it.
> >> 
> >> Maybe just make an alias of the database-file, put it whereever you want
> >> and open that from the browser.
> >
> > Tried that; the SQLite browser wouldn't do it.
> 
> Which SQLite browser?

I tried a couple. Probably it was <SQLite Database Browser 2.0> (which I 
know is old, but its descendant <DB Browser for SQLite 3.9> had some 
other problems). The database was created by an app I've been using for 
over a decade; maybe that's part of the problem??

Isaac

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#98631

isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
> In article <edtgr4FuaneU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-01-13, isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>>> In article <1mzsb2f.ed7x0817ipo8wN%befr@eaglesoft.de>,
>>> befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) wrote:
>>> 
>>>> isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What I have is an SQLite database in a "wrapper" (why, I don't know; 
>>>>> maybe to keep folks from poking around in it), and an open source SQLite
>>>>> browser. The Browser doesn't support the "drag the file into the window"
>>>>> model for opening, and I got tired of opening the wrapper and dragging
>>>>> the actual database file to the desktop so the "Open" dialog would see
>>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe just make an alias of the database-file, put it whereever you want
>>>> and open that from the browser.
>>> 
>>> Tried that; the SQLite browser wouldn't do it.
>> 
>> Which SQLite browser?
> 
> I tried a couple. Probably it was <SQLite Database Browser 2.0> (which I 
> know is old, but its descendant <DB Browser for SQLite 3.9> had some 
> other problems). The database was created by an app I've been using for 
> over a decade; maybe that's part of the problem??

No idea. I've never used a GUI app to mess with SQLite databases; I always
just did it on the command line or through scripting. I was just curious
what you were using.

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#98563

On 2017-01-12 19:28:17 +0000, isw <isw@witzend.com> said:

> I know about "Show Package Contents", but what I want to do is, within
> an "Open-Save" dialog, navigate directly to a file that's inside a
> package.

In my experience, if the "Show Package Contents" option is available 
then the package is really just a directory, and you can use 
/path/package_name/Contents to see what is inside.

A.

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#98564

On 2017-01-12, Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 19:28:17 +0000, isw <isw@witzend.com> said:
>
>> I know about "Show Package Contents", but what I want to do is, within
>> an "Open-Save" dialog, navigate directly to a file that's inside a
>> package.
>
> In my experience, if the "Show Package Contents" option is available 
> then the package is really just a directory, and you can use 
> /path/package_name/Contents to see what is inside.

Yes, but as isw indicated, open/save dialogs can hide subordinate items
within packages, as well as other items that are normally invisible in
Finder windows. See my reply for a workaround.

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#98565

On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> See my reply for a workaround.

And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.

A.

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#98566

Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
> 
>> See my reply for a workaround.
> 
> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.

Maybe - depends on the definition of "directly navigating" though.
Nevertheless it's way faster and simpler to drag a folder into the dialog
than it is to type a file path.

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#98569

On 2017-01-12 15:22, Alrescha wrote:

> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.

Sometimes the simplest way.

Similar to iPhoto database. You have some app that wants a photo. n
iPhoto, there is a "show in finder". That gets you a finder window with
sleceted photo highlighted. Take it and drag it to the file open
dialogue and you get to it.

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#98574

In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me> 
  Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

>> See my reply for a workaround.

> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.

Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
simpler and doesn't require bouncing out to the finder and then back and
then having a spurious finder window open. Much cleaner.

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world gone mad?' said the dwarf. Soll's eyes narrowed. 'Because Mr
Dibbler,' he growled, 'is a very observant man.' --Moving Pictures

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#98575

On 2017-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me> 
>   Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>
>>> See my reply for a workaround.
>
>> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
>> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
>> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.
>
> Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
> simpler 

Heh... Manually typing a full path to some random file is more work than
dragging a file into the window where I'm from (and I type for a
living). But to each, his own - do whatever works best for you.

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#98588

In message <edqdnfF7fcpU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2017-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me> 
>>   Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>>
>>>> See my reply for a workaround.
>>
>>> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
>>> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
>>> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.
>>
>> Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
>> simpler 

> Heh... Manually typing a full path to some random file is more work than
> dragging a file into the window where I'm from (and I type for a
> living). But to each, his own - do whatever works best for you.

You don't have to type the path as Apple path completing is fast.

Type /A<tab>/Pa<tab>/C<tab> will take you into
/Applications/Pages.app/Contents (depending on what other apps you may
have).

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#98589

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <edqdnfF7fcpU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me> 
>>> Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>>> 
>>>>> See my reply for a workaround.
>>> 
>>>> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
>>>> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
>>>> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.
>>> 
>>> Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
>>> simpler 
> 
>> Heh... Manually typing a full path to some random file is more work than
>> dragging a file into the window where I'm from (and I type for a
>> living). But to each, his own - do whatever works best for you.
> 
> You don't have to type the path as Apple path completing is fast.

Yes and it's still more work. Use what you want though.

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#98598

In message <edr287FbuqoU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <edqdnfF7fcpU1@mid.individual.net> 
>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2017-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me> 
>>>> Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>>>> 
>>>>>> See my reply for a workaround.
>>>> 
>>>>> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package 
>>>>> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save 
>>>>> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.
>>>> 
>>>> Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
>>>> simpler 
>> 
>>> Heh... Manually typing a full path to some random file is more work than
>>> dragging a file into the window where I'm from (and I type for a
>>> living). But to each, his own - do whatever works best for you.
>> 
>> You don't have to type the path as Apple path completing is fast.

> Yes and it's still more work. Use what you want though.

Switch to finder, open up a window (or switch to "Applications", find
the app in the list. Rclick. Choose show package contents. Drag icon
from titlebar (or Contents folder) to open dialog. Do whatever. Switch
back to finder and close the extra window.

Doesn't seem noticeably faster, and it requires switching apps, which I
find a distraction.


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#98626

On 2017-01-12 2:19 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2017-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me>
>>   Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>>
>>>> See my reply for a workaround.
>>
>>> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package
>>> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save
>>> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.
>>
>> Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
>> simpler
>
> Heh... Manually typing a full path to some random file is more work than
> dragging a file into the window where I'm from (and I type for a
> living). But to each, his own - do whatever works best for you.
>
Except you DON'T have to type a full path.

1. Navigate to the directory containing the package you want to access.

2. Cmd-shift-G and type enough of the packages name to use tab 
auto-completion, then type "Contents" and click "OK" or hit Return.

Voila.

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#98630

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 2:19 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <o58of2$c8m$1@dont-email.me>
>>> Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2017-01-12 20:09:51 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>>> 
>>>>> See my reply for a workaround.
>>> 
>>>> And lovely workaround that it is, I'm not sure that opening the package
>>>> in a separate window and dragging the contents into an open/save
>>>> dialoge box qualifies as 'directly navigating' as requested by the OP.
>>> 
>>> Using the ⇧-⌘-G shortcut to simply go to the folder you want is much
>>> simpler
>> 
>> Heh... Manually typing a full path to some random file is more work than
>> dragging a file into the window where I'm from (and I type for a
>> living). But to each, his own - do whatever works best for you.
>> 
> Except you DON'T have to type a full path.
> 
> 1. Navigate to the directory containing the package you want to access.
> 
> 2. Cmd-shift-G and type enough of the packages name to use tab 
> auto-completion, then type "Contents" and click "OK" or hit Return.
> 
> Voila.

Good point. That is a bit easier.

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#98766

On 01-14-2017 07:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 2. Cmd-shift-G and type enough of the packages name to use tab
> auto-completion, then type "Contents" and click "OK" or hit Return.

Or "Co<tab>" ??

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#98767

On 2017-01-18, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
> On 01-14-2017 07:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 2. Cmd-shift-G and type enough of the packages name to use tab
>> auto-completion, then type "Contents" and click "OK" or hit Return.
>
> Or "Co<tab>" ??

I didn't write the above text.

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#98880

On 01-18-2017 20:58, Jolly Roger wrote:
> I didn't write the above text.

Sigh.  Thunderbird doesn't make quoting easy.

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#99008

On 1/20/17   PDT 10:18 AM, Happy.Hobo wrote:
> On 01-18-2017 20:58, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> I didn't write the above text.
>
> Sigh.  Thunderbird doesn't make quoting easy.

Depends on your settings. It's easier than making pie! Or measuring pi.

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#99285

On 1/22/17 3:13 AM, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 1/20/17   PDT 10:18 AM, Happy.Hobo wrote:
>> On 01-18-2017 20:58, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> I didn't write the above text.
>>
>> Sigh.  Thunderbird doesn't make quoting easy.
>
> Depends on your settings. It's easier than making pie! Or measuring pi.

Well, it makes quoting easy, but if you snip irrelevant things like a 
civilized person, it's easy to screw up the attributions.

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