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  Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 09:31 -0800
    Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-10 17:48 +0000
      Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 10:21 -0800
        Re: Startup Password - FMFD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-10 13:27 -0500
          Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 10:40 -0800
            Re: Startup Password - FMFD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-10 14:13 -0500
              Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-10 19:47 +0000
                Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 12:57 -0800
        Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-10 19:46 +0000
          Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 12:59 -0800
            Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 13:06 -0800
              Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 13:15 -0800
              Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-10 21:28 +0000
                Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 13:37 -0800
                  Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 13:54 -0800
                    Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-10 23:36 +0000
                      Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 16:00 -0800
                    Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 14:26 -0500
                      Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:22 +0000
                        Re: Startup Password - FMFD? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-13 16:36 -0800
                          Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 01:48 +0000
                          Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-13 18:36 -0800
                          Re: Startup Password - FMFD? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2016-11-13 22:31 -0700
                            Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-13 22:01 -0800
                              Re: Startup Password - FMFD? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-14 07:22 -0800
                                Re: Startup Password - FMFD? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2016-11-14 11:22 -0700
                                  Re: Startup Password - FMFD? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-14 10:32 -0800
                                    Re: Startup Password - FMFD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-14 16:17 -0500
                                      Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-14 18:16 -0800
                                Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-14 18:12 -0800
                      Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-12 17:31 -0800
            Re: Startup Password - FMFD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-10 21:13 +0000
              Re: Startup Password - FMFD? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-10 13:35 -0800
            Re: Startup Password - FMFD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-10 18:34 -0500

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#96696 — Startup Password - FMFD?

In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from 
fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what 
it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac", I don't know why it 
suddenly wants my system password on startup.

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#96698

On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from 
> fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what 
> it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac"

I believe this is the Find My Friends Daemon (FMFD).

> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.

I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.

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#96700

On 2016-11-10 17:48:53 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from
>> fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what
>> it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac"
> 
> I believe this is the Find My Friends Daemon (FMFD).
> 
>> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.
> 
> I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
> Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.

I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it and 
uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash, empty 
trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download through an 
email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to Safari and did 
nothing.

I had clicked the same download 15 minutes earlier and it went through 
Folx, and I though, "what's the point of this thing, I was doing fine 
without it". Now, the link simply flashed in Safari and does nothing.  
Again I'm confounded.

I rebooted the machine and that's when this credentials thing happened 
with FMFD.  Still Safari did nothing with the link. I tried fiddling 
with some preferences to see if I could make it work, among them 
turning off JavaScript.  Then I did some regular stuff, among which was 
going to Apple's icloud site. I find it want's JavaScript is 
*required*.  After all this chatter about potential issues with Java, I 
was kind of surprised.

Something new every week...

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#96701

In article <2016111010215673213-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> >> In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from
> >> fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what
> >> it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac"
> > 
> > I believe this is the Find My Friends Daemon (FMFD).
> > 
> >> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.
> > 
> > I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
> > Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.
> 
> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it and 
> uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash, empty 
> trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download through an 
> email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to Safari and did 
> nothing.

it probably did, that being installing malware. you've been pwned.

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#96702

On 2016-11-10 18:27:15 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <2016111010215673213-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> 
>>>> In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from
>>>> fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what
>>>> it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac"
>>> 
>>> I believe this is the Find My Friends Daemon (FMFD).
>>> 
>>>> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.
>>> 
>>> I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
>>> Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.
>> 
>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it and
>> uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash, empty
>> trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download through an
>> email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to Safari and did
>> nothing.
> 
> it probably did, that being installing malware. you've been pwned.

Folx is malware?

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#96703

In article <2016111010400132423-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> >>> 
> >>>> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.
> >>> 
> >>> I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
> >>> Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.
> >> 
> >> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it and
> >> uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash, empty
> >> trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download through an
> >> email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to Safari and did
> >> nothing.
> > 
> > it probably did, that being installing malware. you've been pwned.
> 
> Folx is malware?

clicking a link in email (that alone is a bad idea), safari launching
which seemingly 'did nothing' followed by unusual things happening,
such as being asked for your admin password, screams malware.

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#96707

On 2016-11-10, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <2016111010400132423-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>>>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it and
>>>> uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash, empty
>>>> trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download through an
>>>> email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to Safari and did
>>>> nothing.
>>> 
>>> it probably did, that being installing malware. you've been pwned.
>> 
>> Folx is malware?

Download managers are certainly *not* what I would consider to be
desirable or noteworthy software.

> clicking a link in email (that alone is a bad idea), safari launching
> which seemingly 'did nothing' followed by unusual things happening,
> such as being asked for your admin password, screams malware.

True. 

So what were these links to?

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#96711

On 2016-11-10 19:47:50 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-11-10, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <2016111010400132423-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it and
>>>>> uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash, empty
>>>>> trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download through an
>>>>> email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to Safari and did
>>>>> nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> it probably did, that being installing malware. you've been pwned.
>>> 
>>> Folx is malware?
> 
> Download managers are certainly *not* what I would consider to be
> desirable or noteworthy software.

Yeah. They use to have an uninstaller, but with the recent versions I 
note their instructions are (currently) simply to delete the program 
and empty the trash as indicated above.  Later I find there is a Folx 
Agent program and other attendant files in the Library/Application 
Support so deleted those as well.

>> clicking a link in email (that alone is a bad idea), safari launching
>> which seemingly 'did nothing' followed by unusual things happening,
>> such as being asked for your admin password, screams malware.
> 
> True.
> 
> So what were these links to?

A link to beta software of a program named VideoDrive by Aroona 
software.  Of which I am a big fan by the way. Totally legit, I've 
encountered a bug and we're working to address it.  I asked them if 
they ditched the file after my download or something and they say they 
have no idea what the issue is, and the file is still there.

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#96706

On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-11-10 17:48:53 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from
>>> fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what
>>> it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac"
>> 
>> I believe this is the Find My Friends Daemon (FMFD).
>> 
>>> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.
>> 
>> I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
>> Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.
>
> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it
> and uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash,
> empty trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download
> through an email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to
> Safari and did nothing.

Did Safari attempt to download the file? What showed up in the location
bar (URL)?

> I had clicked the same download 15 minutes earlier and it went through
> Folx, and I though, "what's the point of this thing, I was doing fine
> without it". Now, the link simply flashed in Safari and does nothing.
> Again I'm confounded.
>
I've never felt I needed an app just to manage my downloads. It would
only complicate what is already brain-dead simple.

> I rebooted the machine and that's when this credentials thing happened
> with FMFD.

Probably just a coincidence.

> Still Safari did nothing with the link.

What was the link? Did Safari even attempt to connect?

> I tried fiddling with some preferences to see if I could make it work,
> among them turning off JavaScript.  Then I did some regular stuff,
> among which was going to Apple's icloud site. I find it want's
> JavaScript is *required*.  After all this chatter about potential
> issues with Java, I was kind of surprised.

Java isn't the same thing as Javascript.

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#96712

On 2016-11-10 19:46:05 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-10 17:48:53 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>> In rebooting my computer today I got a request for system password from
>>>> fmfd.  I granted it, but would kinda like to know what it is and what
>>>> it does. Apparently relate to "Find My Mac"
>>> 
>>> I believe this is the Find My Friends Daemon (FMFD).
>>> 
>>>> I don't know why it suddenly wants my system password on startup.
>>> 
>>> I've never seen it ask for credentials, even though I've enabled System
>>> Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac on numerous Macs.
>> 
>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it
>> and uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash,
>> empty trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download
>> through an email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to
>> Safari and did nothing.
> 
> Did Safari attempt to download the file? What showed up in the location
> bar (URL)?

It flashes the link very briefly and is gone--quicker than my ability 
to see it. I've been trying to figure out how to "see" what it 
processed, but don't know how to analyze it.

>> I had clicked the same download 15 minutes earlier and it went through
>> Folx, and I though, "what's the point of this thing, I was doing fine
>> without it". Now, the link simply flashed in Safari and does nothing.
>> Again I'm confounded.
>> 
> I've never felt I needed an app just to manage my downloads. It would
> only complicate what is already brain-dead simple.'

I got it free with a MacUpDate package so gave it a try.

>> I rebooted the machine and that's when this credentials thing happened
>> with FMFD.
> 
> Probably just a coincidence.

Next reboot did not require it.

>> Still Safari did nothing with the link.
> 
> What was the link? Did Safari even attempt to connect?

I can say for sure, it just flashes really quickly in the URL field.

>> I tried fiddling with some preferences to see if I could make it work,
>> among them turning off JavaScript.  Then I did some regular stuff,
>> among which was going to Apple's icloud site. I find it want's
>> JavaScript is *required*.  After all this chatter about potential
>> issues with Java, I was kind of surprised.
> 
> Java isn't the same thing as Javascript.

So iCloud using Javascript is legit?

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#96713

On 2016-11-10 20:59:53 +0000, gtr said:

>>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it
>>> and uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash,
>>> empty trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download
>>> through an email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to
>>> Safari and did nothing.
>> 
>> Did Safari attempt to download the file? What showed up in the location
>> bar (URL)?
> 
> It flashes the link very briefly and is gone--quicker than my ability 
> to see it. I've been trying to figure out how to "see" what it 
> processed, but don't know how to analyze it.

I should add that if I simply copy and paste this link into the Safari 
URL field it downloads it like regular.  Folx apparently does some kind 
of intercept (I'm guessing, as it did this initially with this link), 
and is may well be continuing to intercept but doing nothing with it 
since it's no longer there or operational.

>> What was the link? Did Safari even attempt to connect?

I'm reluctant to give the real link publicly, since it's this guys beta 
software but it is simply:

http://downloads.[company].com//[foldername]/ProgramBeta.zip

I'll be glad to send it to your email, if it will help.

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#96715

On 2016-11-10 21:06:18 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2016-11-10 20:59:53 +0000, gtr said:
> 
>>>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it
>>>> and uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash,
>>>> empty trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download
>>>> through an email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to
>>>> Safari and did nothing.
>>> 
>>> Did Safari attempt to download the file? What showed up in the location
>>> bar (URL)?
>> 
>> It flashes the link very briefly and is gone--quicker than my ability 
>> to see it. I've been trying to figure out how to "see" what it 
>> processed, but don't know how to analyze it.
> 
> I should add that if I simply copy and paste this link into the Safari 
> URL field it downloads it like regular.  Folx apparently does some kind 
> of intercept (I'm guessing, as it did this initially with this link), 
> and is may well be continuing to intercept but doing nothing with it 
> since it's no longer there or operational.
> 
>>> What was the link? Did Safari even attempt to connect?
> 
> I'm reluctant to give the real link publicly, since it's this guys beta 
> software but it is simply:
> 
> http://downloads.[company].com//[foldername]/ProgramBeta.zip
> 
> I'll be glad to send it to your email, if it will help.

Hmm. I thought I copied and pasted this fine as is; I know note that 
double-slash might be the problem. 

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#96716

On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-11-10 20:59:53 +0000, gtr said:
>
>>>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it
>>>> and uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash,
>>>> empty trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download
>>>> through an email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to
>>>> Safari and did nothing.
>>> 
>>> Did Safari attempt to download the file? What showed up in the location
>>> bar (URL)?
>> 
>> It flashes the link very briefly and is gone--quicker than my ability 
>> to see it. I've been trying to figure out how to "see" what it 
>> processed, but don't know how to analyze it.
>
> I should add that if I simply copy and paste this link into the Safari 
> URL field it downloads it like regular.  Folx apparently does some kind 
> of intercept (I'm guessing, as it did this initially with this link), 
> and is may well be continuing to intercept but doing nothing with it 
> since it's no longer there or operational.

I seems like Folx is still active and not completely removed from your
computer. Apparently they told you only to remove the application by
dragging it to the trash, but not how to remove the supporting software
package(s).  But there apparently is a built-in "Uninstall" function in
the app. So if I were you I would try installing it again, and this time
go into the Help menu and choose Uninstall to let the app remove itself
(and hopefully all of it).

>>> What was the link? Did Safari even attempt to connect?
>
> I'm reluctant to give the real link publicly, since it's this guys beta 
> software but it is simply:
>
> http://downloads.[company].com//[foldername]/ProgramBeta.zip
>
> I'll be glad to send it to your email, if it will help.

No need.

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#96719

On 2016-11-10 21:28:20 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-10 20:59:53 +0000, gtr said:
>> 
>>>>> I installed Folx for hot-diggity downloading.  I didn't care for it
>>>>> and uninstalled it according to their website: Drag it to the trash,
>>>>> empty trash.  Someone had sent me a link to a file for download
>>>>> through an email.  A simple download.  I clicked on it.  It went to
>>>>> Safari and did nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> Did Safari attempt to download the file? What showed up in the location
>>>> bar (URL)?
>>> 
>>> It flashes the link very briefly and is gone--quicker than my ability
>>> to see it. I've been trying to figure out how to "see" what it
>>> processed, but don't know how to analyze it.
>> 
>> I should add that if I simply copy and paste this link into the Safari
>> URL field it downloads it like regular.  Folx apparently does some kind
>> of intercept (I'm guessing, as it did this initially with this link),
>> and is may well be continuing to intercept but doing nothing with it
>> since it's no longer there or operational.
> 
> I seems like Folx is still active and not completely removed from your
> computer. Apparently they told you only to remove the application by
> dragging it to the trash, but not how to remove the supporting software
> package(s).  But there apparently is a built-in "Uninstall" function in
> the app. So if I were you I would try installing it again, and this time
> go into the Help menu and choose Uninstall to let the app remove itself
> (and hopefully all of it).

I'll try that but I think you may be referring to a previous version of 
the program that had an "uninstall" option in it.  On their website 
they say that refers only to earlier version of the app.

> 
>>>> What was the link? Did Safari even attempt to connect?
>> 
>> I'm reluctant to give the real link publicly, since it's this guys beta
>> software but it is simply:
>> 
>> http://downloads.[company].com//[foldername]/ProgramBeta.zip
>> 
>> I'll be glad to send it to your email, if it will help.
> 
> No need.

Too late!  Please disregard the email, except the praise for your 
regular life-lines.

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#96720

On 2016-11-10 21:37:19 +0000, gtr said:

>> I seems like Folx is still active and not completely removed from your
>> computer. Apparently they told you only to remove the application by
>> dragging it to the trash, but not how to remove the supporting software
>> package(s).  But there apparently is a built-in "Uninstall" function in
>> the app. So if I were you I would try installing it again, and this time
>> go into the Help menu and choose Uninstall to let the app remove itself
>> (and hopefully all of it).
> 
> I'll try that but I think you may be referring to a previous version of 
> the program that had an "uninstall" option in it.  On their website 
> they say that refers only to earlier version of the app.

Downloaded the installer again, and there is no "uninstall" in the 
folder, as was once the case.  Before I manually deleted it, the 
application had no help>uninstall option, that too was a previous 
version of the software.

At your behest I went ahead and installed the thing yet again; my 
memory is correct the help feature now takes you to a menu of options, 
one of which is "Uninstallation".  That link now takes you here:

http://wiki.eltima.com/user-guides/uninstall-mac.html

Sheesh--what a day!

Guts now tells me I happened to have three things all happen at the 
same time and associated them: An uninstall, a link that suddenly 
doesn't work that happened to be a download, and FMFD suddenly asking 
me for my password.  Can coincidences that evil really happen?

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#96722

On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-11-10 21:37:19 +0000, gtr said:
>
>>> I seems like Folx is still active and not completely removed from your
>>> computer. Apparently they told you only to remove the application by
>>> dragging it to the trash, but not how to remove the supporting software
>>> package(s).  But there apparently is a built-in "Uninstall" function in
>>> the app. So if I were you I would try installing it again, and this time
>>> go into the Help menu and choose Uninstall to let the app remove itself
>>> (and hopefully all of it).
>> 
>> I'll try that but I think you may be referring to a previous version of 
>> the program that had an "uninstall" option in it.  On their website 
>> they say that refers only to earlier version of the app.
>
> Downloaded the installer again, and there is no "uninstall" in the 
> folder, as was once the case.  Before I manually deleted it, the 
> application had no help>uninstall option, that too was a previous 
> version of the software.
>
> At your behest I went ahead and installed the thing yet again; my 
> memory is correct the help feature now takes you to a menu of options, 
> one of which is "Uninstallation".  That link now takes you here:
>
> http://wiki.eltima.com/user-guides/uninstall-mac.html
>
> Sheesh--what a day!
>
> Guts now tells me I happened to have three things all happen at the 
> same time and associated them: An uninstall, a link that suddenly 
> doesn't work that happened to be a download, and FMFD suddenly asking 
> me for my password.  Can coincidences that evil really happen?

It's really lame for a software company not to provide a simple and easy
way to quickly and *completely* remove the software from your computer.
That alone would result in me not using it, but I already have no need
for a download manager.

Have you tried booting in Safe Mode to see if clicking links works
correctly without third-party software running? 

I would look in /Library/LaunchDaemons/, /Library/StartupItems/, and
/Library/Internet Plug-Ins to see if there is anything in there related
to Folx. I'd also do a Spotlight search for "Folx" and see what appears
in the result list. I'd move anything that might cause the incorrect
behavior (internet plugins, etc) to the trash and reboot to see if that
restores the proper behavior. 

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#96723

On 2016-11-10 23:36:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-11-10, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-10 21:37:19 +0000, gtr said:
>> 
>>>> I seems like Folx is still active and not completely removed from your
>>>> computer. Apparently they told you only to remove the application by
>>>> dragging it to the trash, but not how to remove the supporting software
>>>> package(s).  But there apparently is a built-in "Uninstall" function in
>>>> the app. So if I were you I would try installing it again, and this time
>>>> go into the Help menu and choose Uninstall to let the app remove itself
>>>> (and hopefully all of it).
>>> 
>>> I'll try that but I think you may be referring to a previous version of
>>> the program that had an "uninstall" option in it.  On their website
>>> they say that refers only to earlier version of the app.
>> 
>> Downloaded the installer again, and there is no "uninstall" in the
>> folder, as was once the case.  Before I manually deleted it, the
>> application had no help>uninstall option, that too was a previous
>> version of the software.
>> 
>> At your behest I went ahead and installed the thing yet again; my
>> memory is correct the help feature now takes you to a menu of options,
>> one of which is "Uninstallation".  That link now takes you here:
>> 
>> http://wiki.eltima.com/user-guides/uninstall-mac.html
>> 
>> Sheesh--what a day!
>> 
>> Guts now tells me I happened to have three things all happen at the
>> same time and associated them: An uninstall, a link that suddenly
>> doesn't work that happened to be a download, and FMFD suddenly asking
>> me for my password.  Can coincidences that evil really happen?
> 
> It's really lame for a software company not to provide a simple and easy
> way to quickly and *completely* remove the software from your computer.
> That alone would result in me not using it, but I already have no need
> for a download manager.

I don't need it either but it actually seems to be a pretty hip 
solution for people who download mega-gigs of data.  It breaks up the 
download into up to 20 torrents.  But I can't imagine it saves me more 
than 20 seconds, and even if it was three hours--who cares?  I once 
lived with a 1200-baud modem, I've got the time for a 4G file any day 
of the week.

[I'm of the mind that my "problem" is "solved", nevertheless for any 
passersby scratching their head over the same issue(s):]

A lack of a complete uninstall option I think *inexcusable*. From 
snooping during the last installation I see that the drag-and-drop 
installation is simple enough. So the first time you run it there is 
some "accept/reject" dialogue, but not the explicit "can I install some 
stuff" dialogue that seems ubiquitous these days.  Still, it installs a 
"Folx3" folder with a Folx Agent application within the Eltima folder 
of the Application Support folder, or perhaps in its own stand-alone 
folder. Having done it more than once, I'm unsure.  This, despite the 
fact the program is currently at v3.

I assume from their perspective that since it doesn't work without the 
primary program calling it they don't care.  God knows I've probably 
got 20 gig of shit in my Library folder from programs I tried 5 years 
ago.  I've tried being a good detective and deleting what I can, but 
know I can run into problems mis-identifying things.

> Have you tried booting in Safe Mode to see if clicking links works
> correctly without third-party software running?

I have not: Though I haven't yet had it verified from the software guys 
that sent me the inital link, I believe their errant double-slash "//" 
in the link is what has Safari rejecting it.  The first time I used the 
link I actually let Folx do the work and I believe it corrected the 
link. Once uninstalled, the link simply failed for its own reasons. But 
when I copy and paste in the link replacing the double-slash with a 
single, it works fine.

FYI, I also sent a request for aid to the Eltima cserve crew and they 
have not responded.  I know these shops are in a garage, and the 
ceo/programmer probably hasn't gotten home from his "real job", so I 
have no enmity about that.

> I would look in /Library/LaunchDaemons/, /Library/StartupItems/, and
> /Library/Internet Plug-Ins to see if there is anything in there related
> to Folx. I'd also do a Spotlight search for "Folx" and see what appears
> in the result list. I'd move anything that might cause the incorrect
> behavior (internet plugins, etc) to the trash and reboot to see if that
> restores the proper behavior.

I've rooted out every "folx"-tagged item and have my fingers crossed.  
Thanks for the input.

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#96747

On 2016-11-10 16:54, gtr wrote:
> On 2016-11-10 21:37:19 +0000, gtr said:
>
>>> I seems like Folx is still active and not completely removed from your
>>> computer. Apparently they told you only to remove the application by
>>> dragging it to the trash, but not how to remove the supporting software
>>> package(s).  But there apparently is a built-in "Uninstall" function in
>>> the app. So if I were you I would try installing it again, and this time
>>> go into the Help menu and choose Uninstall to let the app remove itself
>>> (and hopefully all of it).
>>
>> I'll try that but I think you may be referring to a previous version
>> of the program that had an "uninstall" option in it.  On their website
>> they say that refers only to earlier version of the app.
>
> Downloaded the installer again, and there is no "uninstall" in the
> folder, as was once the case.  Before I manually deleted it, the
> application had no help>uninstall option, that too was a previous
> version of the software.
>
> At your behest I went ahead and installed the thing yet again; my memory
> is correct the help feature now takes you to a menu of options, one of
> which is "Uninstallation".  That link now takes you here:
>
> http://wiki.eltima.com/user-guides/uninstall-mac.html
>
> Sheesh--what a day!
>
> Guts now tells me I happened to have three things all happen at the same
> time and associated them: An uninstall, a link that suddenly doesn't
> work that happened to be a download, and FMFD suddenly asking me for my
> password.  Can coincidences that evil really happen?

There's an uninstall app called AppCleaner that I use.  It purports to 
located all files associated with an app and delete them.  I've been 
using it for many years w/o issues.  I don't know that it actually 
-does- get everything that the app being deleted wrote.
-- 
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   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96752

On 2016-11-12, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-11-10 16:54, gtr wrote:
>
> There's an uninstall app called AppCleaner that I use.  It purports to 
> located all files associated with an app and delete them.  I've been 
> using it for many years w/o issues.  I don't know that it actually 
> -does- get everything that the app being deleted wrote.

Typically they just find all files related to the app's bundle ID
assigned by the developer, and move them to the trash. Hazel also
provides that sort of automatic uninstall functionality, along with its
other really useful features:

<https://www.noodlesoft.com>

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#96812

On 11/12/16   PDT 12:22 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-11-12, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-10 16:54, gtr wrote:
>>
>> There's an uninstall app called AppCleaner that I use.  It purports to
>> located all files associated with an app and delete them.  I've been
>> using it for many years w/o issues.  I don't know that it actually
>> -does- get everything that the app being deleted wrote.
>
> Typically they just find all files related to the app's bundle ID
> assigned by the developer, and move them to the trash. Hazel also
> provides that sort of automatic uninstall functionality, along with its
> other really useful features:
>
> <https://www.noodlesoft.com>
>
There was an app quite a few years ago that you had to run on installing 
something, and it would track where everything went, and was therefor 
able to remove them when run as an uninstaller. I no longer need or want 
such, but am curious if anyone recalls the name!

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