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  Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-05 10:54 -0600
    Re: Unlinking phone and computer Keith Nuttle <Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-05 13:22 -0400
      Re: Unlinking phone and computer nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-05 14:16 -0400
      Re: Unlinking phone and computer "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-11-05 21:11 -0500
    Re: Unlinking phone and computer Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 13:22 -0400
      Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-05 16:21 -0600
    Re: Unlinking phone and computer VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-11-05 12:48 -0500
      Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-05 16:25 -0600
        Re: Unlinking phone and computer VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-11-05 17:40 -0500
          Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-05 17:08 -0600
    Re: Unlinking phone and computer Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-05 20:00 +0000
      Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-05 17:01 -0600
        Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-06 02:33 -0700
          Re: Unlinking phone and computer Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 03:53 +0000
            Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-08 02:36 -0700
          Re: Unlinking phone and computer Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-11-07 15:39 +0100
    Re: Unlinking phone and computer Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-11-05 21:45 -0400
    Re: Unlinking phone and computer Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-11-06 18:19 +0100
      Re: Unlinking phone and computer Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2016-11-06 22:13 -0700

#96504 — Unlinking phone and computer

Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to 
hit "Reply All" when answering this post.

A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 
8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old 
pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by 
using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.

Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL

I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved.

Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can 
be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and 
have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so.

Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than 
the average user.

Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to 
use for searching to find out how to do this.

Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her?


-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96506

On 11/05/2016 12:54 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>
> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
> 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>
> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL
>
> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved.
>
> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
> be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and
> have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so.
>
> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
> the average user.
>
> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>
> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for
> her?
>
>
I use bluetooth to keep the contacts on my phone and computer in sync 
all of the time.   To break the connection, all she has to do is turn 
off bluetooth on one of the devices.  Some time it is more convenient to 
transfer pictures by bluetooth from my phone to the computer, rather 
than fuss with sending them .

One of the things that was developed on the Old Palm handhelds was the 
ability to transfer vcard though the wireless connection.  While today 
it is done through bluetooth, the function is still available on todays 
phones, or at least some of the phones.

I turn the bluetooth off on both the computer and the phone.  I only 
turn it on when I want to transfer something.   I do not want the 
Bluetooth transmission on when I am out in the world.

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#96514

In article <nvl4g4$1ns$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Keith Nuttle
<Keith_Nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
> > 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old...

> I use bluetooth to keep the contacts on my phone and computer in sync 
> all of the time.   To break the connection, all she has to do is turn 
> off bluetooth on one of the devices.  Some time it is more convenient to 
> transfer pictures by bluetooth from my phone to the computer, rather 
> than fuss with sending them .

that does not apply to iphones, the subject of the question.

> One of the things that was developed on the Old Palm handhelds was the 
> ability to transfer vcard though the wireless connection.  While today 
> it is done through bluetooth, the function is still available on todays 
> phones, or at least some of the phones.

no it isn't. smartphones do not use bluetooth to sync stuff because
it's very slow and has limited range.

these days, just about everything is done over wifi and sometimes usb.

bluetooth is suitable for headphones, btle accessories, setting up peer
to peer wifi and also to aid location services. not syncing.

> I turn the bluetooth off on both the computer and the phone.  I only 
> turn it on when I want to transfer something.   I do not want the 
> Bluetooth transmission on when I am out in the world.

that's incredibly stupid.

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#96542

On 11-05-2016 12:22, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> I use bluetooth to keep the contacts on my phone and computer in sync
> all of the time.   To break the connection, all she has to do is turn
> off bluetooth on one of the devices.  Some time it is more convenient to
> transfer pictures by bluetooth from my phone to the computer, rather
> than fuss with sending them .

And it will automatically reconnect when you turn it on again.

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#96507

On 2016-11-05 12:54, Ken Springer wrote:
> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>
> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
> 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>
> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL
>
> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved.
>
> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
> be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and
> have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so.
>
> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
> the average user.
>
> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>
> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for
> her?

The "connector" is iTunes, methinks.

Log off of the iTunes (Apple) account in the iTunes on that machine.  I 
believe that will do it, but any backups of the iPhone (if any) on that 
computer will remain there (encrypted or not).

To delete those (if required) 
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/delete-iphone-backups-itunes/ not sure how 
up to date that is.

IIRC to "connect" an iPhone to iTunes the physical cable had to be 
present.  So she would have had to do that as a first step.

She may also have used 3rd party s/w to do it - which is another kettle 
of fish.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96533

On 11/5/16 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2016-11-05 12:54, Ken Springer wrote:
>> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
>> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>>
>> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
>> 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
>> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
>> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>>
>> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL
>>
>> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved.
>>
>> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
>> be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and
>> have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so.
>>
>> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
>> the average user.
>>
>> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
>> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>>
>> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for
>> her?
>
> The "connector" is iTunes, methinks.

This is possible.  Using iTunes was one of the methods she was given by 
some Apple store tech or Apple help itself.  I don't know which.

> Log off of the iTunes (Apple) account in the iTunes on that machine.  I
> believe that will do it, but any backups of the iPhone (if any) on that
> computer will remain there (encrypted or not).

We were just Skyping, and she doesn't know if she logged off or not. 
Hopefully, I can find out later.

> To delete those (if required)
> https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/delete-iphone-backups-itunes/ not sure how
> up to date that is.
>
> IIRC to "connect" an iPhone to iTunes the physical cable had to be
> present.  So she would have had to do that as a first step.
>
> She may also have used 3rd party s/w to do it - which is another kettle
> of fish.
>


-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96508

Ken Springer wrote:

> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to 
> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.

Usenet is not an e-mail venue.  Reply All does not apply.  Reply will
copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your
own post.  A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply
before submitting it.  Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other
NNTP clients that I've used.

> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 
> 8.1 computer.   She did this trying to get the contacts from his old 
> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by 
> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
> 
> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can 
> be done.  Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than 
> the average user.

Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices
list.  I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac).  In Windows, I
enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth
Devices".  Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe
bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes).  I don't have any connected to my computer
right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either
disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20os/x%20delete%20bluetooth%20device

Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X.

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#96534

On 11/5/16 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Ken Springer wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
>> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>
> Usenet is not an e-mail venue.  Reply All does not apply.  Reply will
> copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your
> own post.  A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply
> before submitting it.  Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other
> NNTP clients that I've used.

Thunderbird does do some things a bit nonstandard, and I've come to the 
conclusion other news agents also do things a bit nonstandard.

Just using the Reply button in TB automatically adds all the newsgroups 
to the header.  Reply all include the sender in the header.  I have had 
folks wish to send me their reply in email.  So, I just go with the 
Reply All and let the chips fall where they may.  <G>

>> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
>> 8.1 computer.   She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
>> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
>> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>>
>> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
>> be done.  Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
>> the average user.
>
> Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices
> list.  I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac).  In Windows, I
> enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth
> Devices".  Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe
> bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes).  I don't have any connected to my computer
> right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either
> disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid.

It's an iPhone, which uses iOS, not OS X.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20os/x%20delete%20bluetooth%20device
>
> Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X.
>


-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96535

Ken Springer wrote:

> On 11/5/16 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> Ken Springer wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
>>> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>>
>> Usenet is not an e-mail venue.  Reply All does not apply.  Reply will
>> copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your
>> own post.  A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply
>> before submitting it.  Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other
>> NNTP clients that I've used.
> 
> Thunderbird does do some things a bit nonstandard, and I've come to the 
> conclusion other news agents also do things a bit nonstandard.
> 
> Just using the Reply button in TB automatically adds all the newsgroups 
> to the header.  Reply all include the sender in the header.  I have had 
> folks wish to send me their reply in email.  So, I just go with the 
> Reply All and let the chips fall where they may.  <G>
> 
>>> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
>>> 8.1 computer.   She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
>>> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
>>> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>>>
>>> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
>>> be done.  Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
>>> the average user.
>>
>> Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices
>> list.  I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac).  In Windows, I
>> enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth
>> Devices".  Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe
>> bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes).  I don't have any connected to my computer
>> right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either
>> disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid.
> 
> It's an iPhone, which uses iOS, not OS X.

You threw me with "I have a previous thread in the Mac group about
getting the contacts moved."  You also cross-posted to a *mac*
newsgroup, not to an iPhone newsgroup.

>> https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20os/x%20delete%20bluetooth%20device
>>
>> Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X.

Just change "mac" to "ios".

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#96537

On 11/5/16 4:40 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Ken Springer wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/16 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> Ken Springer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
>>>> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>>>
>>> Usenet is not an e-mail venue.  Reply All does not apply.  Reply will
>>> copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your
>>> own post.  A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply
>>> before submitting it.  Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other
>>> NNTP clients that I've used.
>>
>> Thunderbird does do some things a bit nonstandard, and I've come to the
>> conclusion other news agents also do things a bit nonstandard.
>>
>> Just using the Reply button in TB automatically adds all the newsgroups
>> to the header.  Reply all include the sender in the header.  I have had
>> folks wish to send me their reply in email.  So, I just go with the
>> Reply All and let the chips fall where they may.  <G>
>>
>>>> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
>>>> 8.1 computer.   She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
>>>> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
>>>> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>>>>
>>>> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
>>>> be done.  Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
>>>> the average user.
>>>
>>> Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices
>>> list.  I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac).  In Windows, I
>>> enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth
>>> Devices".  Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe
>>> bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes).  I don't have any connected to my computer
>>> right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either
>>> disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid.
>>
>> It's an iPhone, which uses iOS, not OS X.
>
> You threw me with "I have a previous thread in the Mac group about
> getting the contacts moved."  You also cross-posted to a *mac*
> newsgroup, not to an iPhone newsgroup.

I don't have any iOS devices, so I don't follow those newsgroups, 
although they were given to me in the other thread.

But experience in the local Mac user group is Mac users tend to have 
both OS X computers and iOS devices.  So went with the Mac group.

I've learned the Mac group is like the Windows groups, there are a core 
bunch of helpful posters in both groups that know their stuff.  So I did 
the Mac group out of habit.  <G>

>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20os/x%20delete%20bluetooth%20device
>>>
>>> Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X.
>
> Just change "mac" to "ios".

I'll see what happens later tonight before trying the link.



-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96519

On 2016-11-05, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>
> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his
> Windows 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from
> his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did
> this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.

That would be a terribly inefficient way to transfer contacts to a
phone. Bluetooth transfers are so 80s.

What you typically do with iOS devices is synchronize them to Windows
address book or Outlook Express through the iTunes application installed
on the computer. That would be done through either the USB cable (the
default method) or WiFi (an opt-in optional feature of iTunes). Most
people I know do iTunes WiFi sync, which is really convenient because
the sync happens automatically without any user interaction whenever the
iOS device is plugged into a power charge cable on the same WiFi
network. You don't even have to think about it. It just happens in the
background.

> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL

Because she wanted her contacts to be on the phone? ; )

> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts
> moved.
>
> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it
> can be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I
> live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason
> to do so.

I recall discussions recently where people talked about using more
manual methods than iTunes synchronization, like sending the contacts
through email, or using iOS apps that receive data over WiFi. If she
didn't use iTunes, I don't think she needs to worry about breaking any
link.

> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter
> than the average user.

If so, maybe she can post here herself so she can answer questions
directly rather than essentially playing the telephone game with all of
us?

> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>
> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions
> for her?

Depends on what she did to establish the link to begin with. If she
connected the phone to the computer with the USB cable and ran iTunes to
sync contacts to the phone, then she would seen an alert on the phone
asking her if it should "trust this computer" when she first plugged it
in. If she tapped "Trust" on that dialog, and she wants to undo that, on
the phone she can tap Settings > General > Reset > Reset Location &
Privacy to revoke the trust. The next time the phone is connected to a
computer, the dialog will display asking if the computer should be
trusted again. More details about trust settings is here:

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202778>

If she's talking about some other type of "link" with the computer, then
she'll need to explain what specifically makes her think the phone is
still linked with the computer and how she wants that to change. It
could be she simply *suspects* it is linked and there's no actual
problem to solve.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#96536

On 11/5/16 2:00 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-11-05, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
>> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>>
>> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his
>> Windows 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from
>> his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did
>> this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>
> That would be a terribly inefficient way to transfer contacts to a
> phone. Bluetooth transfers are so 80s.
>
> What you typically do with iOS devices is synchronize them to Windows
> address book or Outlook Express through the iTunes application installed
> on the computer. That would be done through either the USB cable (the
> default method) or WiFi (an opt-in optional feature of iTunes). Most
> people I know do iTunes WiFi sync, which is really convenient because
> the sync happens automatically without any user interaction whenever the
> iOS device is plugged into a power charge cable on the same WiFi
> network. You don't even have to think about it. It just happens in the
> background.

The iPhone is a company phone given to her SO to use for work.  The 
initial problems were basically 2...  He's a total computer bozo, and 
that's the best I can say for him from what I know, and the company 
disabled the old phone almost immediately from what I can tell, which 
disabled the old phone's ability to get contacts transferred easily.  At 
least, one would hope it would be easy.

>> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL
>
> Because she wanted her contacts to be on the phone? ; )

Well, duh!   LOL

>> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts
>> moved.
>>
>> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it
>> can be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I
>> live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason
>> to do so.
>
> I recall discussions recently where people talked about using more
> manual methods than iTunes synchronization, like sending the contacts
> through email, or using iOS apps that receive data over WiFi. If she
> didn't use iTunes, I don't think she needs to worry about breaking any
> link.

All of the synchronization methods she found did not work.  I do not 
know if she followed them correctly, either.  But somehow she did 
finally get them all transferred manually.

>> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter
>> than the average user.
>
> If so, maybe she can post here herself so she can answer questions
> directly rather than essentially playing the telephone game with all of
> us?

I think I would rather put my head in the mouth of a crocodile!  LOL

She does not want to have anything to do with Smartphones, which doesn't 
help.  And I can't even get her to use a vendor's forums to ask for 
help.  So, sadly she wastes a lot of time trying to get things done 
sometime, and at the same time elevating her frustration level.

It's even hard to get her to press F! (Windows) for help sometimes. 
Don't blame her too much for that, most online help today is worthless 
to a totally new user.

For me, it's not easy, as she often leaves out pertinent facts, or 
explains things in a way that is not always totally clear, uses 
vocabulary that is often of her own choosing.  :-(  Sure makes it hard 
to understand what she actually did, and what she actually wants to do.

>> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
>> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>>
>> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions
>> for her?
>
> Depends on what she did to establish the link to begin with. If she
> connected the phone to the computer with the USB cable and ran iTunes to
> sync contacts to the phone, then she would seen an alert on the phone
> asking her if it should "trust this computer" when she first plugged it
> in.

I don't think she used any physical connection, doubt if they even have one.

> If she tapped "Trust" on that dialog, and she wants to undo that, on
> the phone she can tap Settings > General > Reset > Reset Location &
> Privacy to revoke the trust. The next time the phone is connected to a
> computer, the dialog will display asking if the computer should be
> trusted again. More details about trust settings is here:
>
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202778>
>
> If she's talking about some other type of "link" with the computer, then
> she'll need to explain what specifically makes her think the phone is
> still linked with the computer and how she wants that to change. It
> could be she simply *suspects* it is linked and there's no actual
> problem to solve.

She thinks something about the iPhone triggers OneNote to run on the 
computer.  She was really POed and insisted OneNote wasn't on the 
computer and the iPhone installed it.  She didn't know it was a Metro 
App, and doesn't show up in Programs and Features.

I think something her SO did on the computer is triggering OneNote, not 
some connection between the two devices.  But I don't have the ability 
to try and see things for myself.  She won't even install Skype or 
Teamviewer on his computer so I can see what's happening.

The SO is off snowboarding for the weekend, maybe I can get her to 
temporarily install Skype or Teamviewer tonight, and the remove them 
after I try to figure out what's going on.

Stay tuned.


-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96571

On 11/5/16 5:01 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

HI, JR

<snip>

> She thinks something about the iPhone triggers OneNote to run on the
> computer.  She was really POed and insisted OneNote wasn't on the
> computer and the iPhone installed it.  She didn't know it was a Metro
> App, and doesn't show up in Programs and Features.
>
> I think something her SO did on the computer is triggering OneNote, not
> some connection between the two devices.  But I don't have the ability
> to try and see things for myself.  She won't even install Skype or
> Teamviewer on his computer so I can see what's happening.
>
> The SO is off snowboarding for the weekend, maybe I can get her to
> temporarily install Skype or Teamviewer tonight, and the remove them
> after I try to figure out what's going on.
>
> Stay tuned.

I was able to get her to run Teamviewer in the "run once" mode, which 
means the program wasn't actually installed.  Now I could actually look 
at the computer.

And then a surprise...

OneNote was not listed in the Start Screen, the full page you saw on all 
the systems in the store when W8 was introduced.  But, on my W8 machine, 
it is listed.  But my W8 install is an original 8.0 retail copy upgraded 
to 8.1.

After some research, we unhid a folder on the boot drive, did a search, 
and found 5 OneNote entries.  So it is installed, just not listed on the 
Start Screen.  I found out you can hide Metro Apps, but how to unhide 
them, not so much info.  And a lot of info appears to apply to 8.0 and 
not 8.1.

Since she didn't think OneNote was even installed, it means she did 
nothing to hide it.  My conclusion is Acer hid it for some reason.

Apparently, OneNote would start for the SO when he turned the computer 
on.  And the iPhone was with him.  Last night OneNote did not start, but 
there's no iPhone in the house.

She was adamant about deleting files from the computer to solve the 
problem, so I picked the one file from the search that I think has the 
least possibility of causing issues and let her delete it.  After a cold 
boot OneNote did not start, but we need to wait until the iPhone comes 
home to see what happens.

You can remove Metro apps, but it's a rather convoluted process.  I 
found instructions on removing apps when they are listed on the Start 
Screen.  I checked my system, and you can uninstall from the Start 
Screen.  At this point, I've found no other instructions on how to 
remove Metro Apps.  To reinstall, it appears you have to go to the 
Microsoft Store.

So it's now a waiting game, waiting for the iPhone to come home and then 
see what happens.

-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96604

On 2016-11-06, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently, OneNote would start for the SO when he turned the computer 
> on.  And the iPhone was with him.  Last night OneNote did not start, but 
> there's no iPhone in the house.

Probably just a coincidence. 

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#96650

On 11/6/16 8:53 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-11-06, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apparently, OneNote would start for the SO when he turned the computer
>> on.  And the iPhone was with him.  Last night OneNote did not start, but
>> there's no iPhone in the house.
>
> Probably just a coincidence.

Quite possibly.  However, OneNote starting at bootup is a recent event, 
not something that happened when it was taken out of the box.

Hence my thought it was something her SO did out of ignorance. 
Apparently he does a lot of this.  :-(

It seems removing the one file has solved the problem.  OneNote hasn't 
started since removing the file.  It may not be the smartest way of 
doing it, but it wasn't my solution either.


-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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#96618

In article <nvmtd7$6cf$1@news.albasani.net>
Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was able to get her to run Teamviewer in the "run once" mode, which
> means the program wasn't actually installed.

Well duh!

> And then a surprise...

No surprie.

> My conclusion is Acer hid it for some reason.

Completely irrational.

> Apparently, OneNote would start for the SO when he turned the computer
> on.  And the iPhone was with him.  Last night OneNote did not start, but
> there's no iPhone in the house.

Hounting, huh?

> After a cold
> boot OneNote did not start, but we need to wait until the iPhone comes
> home to see what happens.

Are you intentionally obtuse?

> You can remove Metro apps, but it's a rather convoluted process.

Clearly for you.

> So it's now a waiting game, waiting for the iPhone to come home and then
> see what happens.

We're waiting with baited breath.

HINT: Tech Support ain't you strong suit.

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#96541

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 10:54:02 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:
> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to 
> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
> 

I don't think "reply all" means what you think it means.

-- 
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#96583

In article <nvl2rb$7n4$1@news.albasani.net>
Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>
> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
> 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>
> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL
>
> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved.
>
> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
> be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and
> have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so.
>
> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
> the average user.
>
> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>
> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her?

Unplug the USB cable Einstein.

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#96608

On 11/6/16 10:19 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> In article <nvl2rb$7n4$1@news.albasani.net>
> Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows.  LOL  So don't forget to
>> hit "Reply All" when answering this post.
>>
>> A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows
>> 8.1 computer.  She did this trying to get the contacts from his old
>> pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone.  She thinks she did this by
>> using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me.
>>
>> Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask!  LOL
>>
>> I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved.
>>
>> Now she would like to break that link between the two.  I'm sure it can
>> be done.  I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and
>> have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so.
>>
>> Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than
>> the average user.
>>
>> Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to
>> use for searching to find out how to do this.
>>
>> Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her?
>
> Unplug the USB cable Einstein.

Well, Einstein Jr., she didn't use one.

Idiot.


-- 
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 49.0.1
Thunderbird 45.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
      and it's gone!"

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