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  Time Machine - resetting one of two volumes Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 16:18 -0400
    Re: Time Machine - resetting one of two volumes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-05 20:33 +0000
      Re: Time Machine - resetting one of two volumes Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 17:02 -0400
        Re: Time Machine - resetting one of two volumes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-05 22:09 +0000
          Re: Time Machine - resetting one of two volumes Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-06 07:57 -0500

#96522 — Time Machine - resetting one of two volumes

I have two Time Machine volumes on separate external drives.

Call them A and B.

The disk with volume A is getting very full - about 20 GB left.

Can I remove it from the backup list, remove that volume (A) and then 
add it back to the TM list again without affecting volume B's TM?

Will it delete the "A" TM when I remove it from the list?

Seems logical that it's no issue but just want to hear the pitfalls - if 
any.

Yes, I know it will remove the oldest files when full.  But I also need 
spare room for other things.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96525

On 2016-11-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> I have two Time Machine volumes on separate external drives.
>
> Call them A and B.
>
> The disk with volume A is getting very full - about 20 GB left.
>
> Can I remove it from the backup list, remove that volume (A) and then 
> add it back to the TM list again without affecting volume B's TM?
>
> Will it delete the "A" TM when I remove it from the list?
>
> Seems logical that it's no issue but just want to hear the pitfalls - if 
> any.

I add and remove volumes from the backup list in System Preferences >
Time Machine all the time without affecting other volumes in the list.

> Yes, I know it will remove the oldest files when full.  But I also need 
> spare room for other things.

With macOS Server's Time Machine service you can store backups in any
folder on any volume as well as set quotas for each backup destination.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#96528

On 2016-11-05 16:33, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-11-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I have two Time Machine volumes on separate external drives.
>>
>> Call them A and B.
>>
>> The disk with volume A is getting very full - about 20 GB left.
>>
>> Can I remove it from the backup list, remove that volume (A) and then
>> add it back to the TM list again without affecting volume B's TM?
>>
>> Will it delete the "A" TM when I remove it from the list?
>>
>> Seems logical that it's no issue but just want to hear the pitfalls - if
>> any.
>
> I add and remove volumes from the backup list in System Preferences >
> Time Machine all the time without affecting other volumes in the list.

Thanks - seems logical but always afraid that I didn't know about option 
boink charlie slash two or inverse preservation mode 3 if the moon is 
rising in Taurus.

>
>> Yes, I know it will remove the oldest files when full.  But I also need
>> spare room for other things.
>
> With macOS Server's Time Machine service you can store backups in any
> folder on any volume as well as set quotas for each backup destination.

Server, the separate product?

That could be a way to manage that - hmm could be useful at work too. 
(That's a mishmash so far of local backup drives and some dependence on 
iCloud for "in progress" work).

I'll look into it for both here and at work.

Does it have to be "up" all of the time?  eg: if I run it on this iMac 
which typically sleeps while I'm away, will it still function for other 
Macs in the house when it is up? (eg: manage their backups when it comes 
awake)?.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96531

On 2016-11-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-11-05 16:33, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> With macOS Server's Time Machine service you can store backups in any
>> folder on any volume as well as set quotas for each backup
>> destination.
>
> Server, the separate product?

Of course. It's only $19.99 in the App Store.

> That could be a way to manage that - hmm could be useful at work too.
> (That's a mishmash so far of local backup drives and some dependence
> on iCloud for "in progress" work).
>
> I'll look into it for both here and at work.

It works great.

> Does it have to be "up" all of the time?  eg: if I run it on this iMac
> which typically sleeps while I'm away, will it still function for
> other Macs in the house when it is up? (eg: manage their backups when
> it comes awake)?.

I don't ever put my Mac mini server to sleep because it runs a ton of
services I need to be available 24/7 (including Time Machine backups). I
do, however, occasionally shut it down or turn off Time Machine services
for a while for maintenance. When the machine is running and available,
other computers (clients) that attempt to back up to the Time Machine
volumes will do so. When it's asleep, clients will attempt - and fail -
to back up to it. Typically that results in a notification on the client
machine that the client could not do the backup; but on macOS 10.6 it
fails silently. On every computer in my house, when the server becomes
available again, clients will again automatically back up to it on their
own schedule without user interaction.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#96577

On 2016-11-05 18:09, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-11-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-05 16:33, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>
>>> With macOS Server's Time Machine service you can store backups in any
>>> folder on any volume as well as set quotas for each backup
>>> destination.
>>
>> Server, the separate product?
>
> Of course. It's only $19.99 in the App Store.
>
>> That could be a way to manage that - hmm could be useful at work too.
>> (That's a mishmash so far of local backup drives and some dependence
>> on iCloud for "in progress" work).
>>
>> I'll look into it for both here and at work.
>
> It works great.
>
>> Does it have to be "up" all of the time?  eg: if I run it on this iMac
>> which typically sleeps while I'm away, will it still function for
>> other Macs in the house when it is up? (eg: manage their backups when
>> it comes awake)?.
>
> I don't ever put my Mac mini server to sleep because it runs a ton of
> services I need to be available 24/7 (including Time Machine backups). I
> do, however, occasionally shut it down or turn off Time Machine services
> for a while for maintenance. When the machine is running and available,
> other computers (clients) that attempt to back up to the Time Machine
> volumes will do so. When it's asleep, clients will attempt - and fail -
> to back up to it. Typically that results in a notification on the client
> machine that the client could not do the backup; but on macOS 10.6 it
> fails silently. On every computer in my house, when the server becomes
> available again, clients will again automatically back up to it on their
> own schedule without user interaction.

Sounds perfect for my home needs and possibly for work.  Thanks.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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