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  Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-03 18:59 -0400
    Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 19:07 -0400
      Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-10-04 13:11 +0000
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 10:29 -0400
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-04 15:34 +0000
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-10-05 04:34 +0000
    Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 00:19 +0000
      Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-03 17:27 -0700
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-04 00:48 +0000
    Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2016-10-03 21:14 -0400
      Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-04 18:32 -0400
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-04 23:19 +0000
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-10-05 04:39 +0000
            Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 11:12 -0400
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-10-08 16:35 +0000
            Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-05 20:32 +0000
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2016-10-06 09:28 -0400
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 09:35 -0400
            Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-06 15:09 +0100
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-06 10:36 -0500
            Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2016-10-06 15:48 -0400
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 15:52 -0400
                Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2016-10-06 16:13 -0400
                  Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 16:39 -0400
                  Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-19 21:54 -0700
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 18:33 -0400
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-06 22:43 +0000
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-19 21:54 -0700
                Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-10-20 13:04 -0700
                  Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-20 20:09 +0000
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 10:33 -0400
                Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-01 09:41 -0700
                  Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 17:51 +0000
                  Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-02 02:54 +0000
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-06 16:43 -0400
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 18:32 -0400
    Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-10-18 10:33 -0700
      Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:44 -0500
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-10-20 13:06 -0700
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-20 20:08 +0000
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-21 09:00 +0000
      Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-10-19 08:31 +0000
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-10-19 08:27 -0700
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 17:54 -0500
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-19 19:24 -0400
            Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-10-20 12:47 -0700
              Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-20 16:08 -0400
          Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 05:00 +0000
        Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 17:54 -0500
      Re: Apple wants to force Sierra onto ElCapitan owner ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-19 13:52 +0000

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#95359

On 10/6/16 9:35 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article <nt5jhr$hd6$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
> <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
>> his Apple toys...
>
> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
>

Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP, 
Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?

Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses 
seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.

Timmie gouges the crap out of his customers. But hey, I own a good chunk 
of Apple stock so I'm not complaining!

-- 
You are entitled to your own views. You are not entitled to your own 
facts;-)

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#95360

In article <nt69q3$r7$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
<3S96@taxi.net> wrote:

> >> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
> >> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
> >> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
> >> his Apple toys...
> >
> > macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
> 
> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP, 
> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?

sure have.

the dell 5k display alone (no computer) costs roughly what a complete
imac 5k does.

> Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses 
> seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.

nope.

the google pixel android phone, introduced this past tuesday, is priced
exactly the same as the iphone 7 and does *less*.

the samsung galaxy note 7 (ignoring the battery issue) is priced
*higher* than an iphone.

> Timmie gouges the crap out of his customers. 

nope. 

> But hey, I own a good chunk 
> of Apple stock so I'm not complaining!

you're a hypocrite.

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#95361

On 10/6/16 3:52 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <nt69q3$r7$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
> <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
>>>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
>>>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
>>>> his Apple toys...
>>>
>>> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
>>
>> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP,
>> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?
>
> sure have.
>
> the dell 5k display alone (no computer) costs roughly what a complete
> imac 5k does.
>
>> Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses
>> seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.
>
> nope.
>
> the google pixel android phone, introduced this past tuesday, is priced
> exactly the same as the iphone 7 and does *less*.
>
> the samsung galaxy note 7 (ignoring the battery issue) is priced
> *higher* than an iphone.
>
>> Timmie gouges the crap out of his customers.
>
> nope.
>
>> But hey, I own a good chunk
>> of Apple stock so I'm not complaining!
>
> you're a hypocrite.
>

Sure, you can cherry pick an item here and there to counter my point but 
on average, I'm right.

You also might want to check the definition of hypocrite so you can stop 
name-calling people using the wrong label...

-- 
You can only judge people based upon that which they show you. Nine 
times out of 10, it’s their ass.

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#95366

In article <nt6b8e$3qm$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
<3S96@taxi.net> wrote:

> >>>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
> >>>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
> >>>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
> >>>> his Apple toys...
> >>>
> >>> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
> >>
> >> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP,
> >> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?
> >
> > sure have.
> >
> > the dell 5k display alone (no computer) costs roughly what a complete
> > imac 5k does.
> >
> >> Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses
> >> seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.
> >
> > nope.
> >
> > the google pixel android phone, introduced this past tuesday, is priced
> > exactly the same as the iphone 7 and does *less*.
> >
> > the samsung galaxy note 7 (ignoring the battery issue) is priced
> > *higher* than an iphone.
> >
> >> Timmie gouges the crap out of his customers.
> >
> > nope.
> >
> >> But hey, I own a good chunk
> >> of Apple stock so I'm not complaining!
> >
> > you're a hypocrite.
> 
> Sure, you can cherry pick an item here and there to counter my point but 
> on average, I'm right.

i'm not cherry picking, and on average, you're very wrong.

as i said before, apple products are similarly priced for similar specs.

what *you* are doing is cherry picking, by comparing bottom barrel pcs
to top of the line macs. that's bullshit.

> You also might want to check the definition of hypocrite so you can stop 
> name-calling people using the wrong label...

someone who buys stock for a company they hate is a hypocrite.

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#95833

On 2016-10-06 1:13 PM, Travis Bickle wrote:
> On 10/6/16 3:52 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <nt69q3$r7$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
>> <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
>>>>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
>>>>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
>>>>> his Apple toys...
>>>>
>>>> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
>>>
>>> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP,
>>> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?
>>
>> sure have.
>>
>> the dell 5k display alone (no computer) costs roughly what a complete
>> imac 5k does.
>>
>>> Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses
>>> seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.
>>
>> nope.
>>
>> the google pixel android phone, introduced this past tuesday, is priced
>> exactly the same as the iphone 7 and does *less*.
>>
>> the samsung galaxy note 7 (ignoring the battery issue) is priced
>> *higher* than an iphone.
>>
>>> Timmie gouges the crap out of his customers.
>>
>> nope.
>>
>>> But hey, I own a good chunk
>>> of Apple stock so I'm not complaining!
>>
>> you're a hypocrite.
>>
>
> Sure, you can cherry pick an item here and there to counter my point but
> on average, I'm right.
>

Give some examples...

> You also might want to check the definition of hypocrite so you can stop
> name-calling people using the wrong label...
>

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#95384

On 2016-10-06 15:48:18 -0400, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> said:

> On 10/6/16 9:35 AM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <nt5jhr$hd6$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
>> <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
>>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
>>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
>>> his Apple toys...
>> 
>> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
>> 
> 
> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP, 
> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?

I'll get right on that, after I finish cleaning my horse and buggy...
-- 
Actual Donald Trump Tweet on Jon Stewart's nickname for him:
"Amazing how the haters & losers keep tweeting the name "Fuckface von 
Clownstick" like they are so original & like no one else is doing it…"

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#95386

In message <nt69q3$r7$1@news.albasani.net> 
  Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
> On 10/6/16 9:35 AM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <nt5jhr$hd6$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
>> <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
>>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
>>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
>>> his Apple toys...
>>
>> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
>>

> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP, 
> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?

Knock yourself out. How much does Dell charge for a 5K 27" AIO machine
of comparable speed and power and expansion to an 2015 iMac?

> Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses 
> seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.

Nope.


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Daughter: Duh.

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#95832

On 2016-10-06 12:48 PM, Travis Bickle wrote:
> On 10/6/16 9:35 AM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <nt5jhr$hd6$1@news.albasani.net>, Travis Bickle
>> <3S96@taxi.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
>>> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
>>> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
>>> his Apple toys...
>>
>> macs are not 2-3x higher. they're similarly priced for similar specs.
>>
>
> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP,
> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?
>
> Hey, I'm not knocking Apple products, my family owns and happily uses
> seven of them- iPhones to iMacs. They're just too damned expensive.
>
> Timmie gouges the crap out of his customers. But hey, I own a good chunk
> of Apple stock so I'm not complaining!
>

Apple doesn't play the race to the bottom game.

Yes: they're products are more expensive, but they're very rarely 2-3x 
higher for similarly performing systems.

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#95858

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:54:07 -0700
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> Apple doesn't play the race to the bottom game.

not true they follow the country with the lowest wages like gulls
follow a fishing boat

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#95862

On 2016-10-20, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:54:07 -0700
> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Apple doesn't play the race to the bottom game.
>
> not true they follow the country with the lowest wages

Nice try at changing the topic, but ultimately, you've failed.

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#95949

On 2016 Oct 06, Travis Bickle wrote
(in article <nt69q3$r7$1@news.albasani.net>):

> Priced HP or Lenovo AIOs vs. iMacs lately? How about Dell, Asus, HP,
> Acer notebooks vs. the MacBook family?

Yes, I have, actually. The HP All-In-One systems available at 
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/hp-all-in-one-349517--1#!&Tab=vao all 
have smaller displays (19.5” vs 21”, except for one, or 23.8” instead 
of 27”) and low-end Celeron and AMD CPUs. They have less RAM, and, usually, 
smaller, slower hard drives. The HP Pavilion series machines at 
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/pavilion-23-all-in-one-349518--
1#!&Tab=vao are better, but the low end ones are still fitted with i3s and 
low-end AMDs. The high-end ones have i7s, but slower i7s than iMacs. 
Admittedly those slower i7s are Skylakes rather than Broadwells, The displays 
continue to be 23.8” HD, no 4k or 5k displays in sight. And whereas the 
first group really was priced at half or less of what an iMac was priced at, 
the high-spec (close to iMac spec) Pavilions are priced at something within 
$200-300 of an iMac... for a lower spec system. The Pavilion 27s, at 
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/pavilion-27-all-in-one-349519--
1#!&Tab=vao are (finally) fitted with 27” displays, but still HD, no 4k or 
5k. They do have Skylake CPU, though. The brand new Envys at 
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/envy-27-all-in-one-349515--1#! finally 
have 4k displays... and are priced within a few hundred dollars of iMacs. 
Yes, the HPs are cheaper. They’re not dramatically cheaper, not at similar 
specs. the elcheapo systems all have Celeron or similar CPUs, small RAM fits, 
low-end graphics capability, low-end displays (some still have TN displays!) 
and usually smaller slower hard drives. Apple simply doesn’t sell systems 
of that spec, which explains why Apple doesn’t sell systems at that price 
point.

As for the laptops... I personally have an Asus laptop. It’s 5 years old 
and getting wonky. it’s notably slow, in either Win 7 or Win 10. I have to 
reboot every ever so often when it refuses to detect wireless or even wired 
network connections, or worse, does detect them but for whatever reason 
can’t see the Internet using them. A reboot cures this. The battery never 
gave me the promised 3.5 hours; it’s now under 2.5 hours, and, worse, since 
I put Win 10 on it, every now and again it spontaneously shuts down even when 
there’s lots of battery life. I know it’s something to do with Win 10 as 
I have Win 7 on a separate partition and it never spontaneously shuts down 
when booted Win 7. The keyboard has, erm, issues. The less said about the 
trackpad, the better. There would be a reason why I bought an external 
wireless mouse. The Asus cost me around $1000, which was markedly cheaper 
than a MacBook Pro of similar spec at the time that I bought it. However, 
MBPs of that vintage are still going strong, using Apple’s latest OS. I 
will be replacing the Asus with a MBP. I’m just waiting for the alleged new 
MBPs which should be introduced on 27 Oct 2016.

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#96289

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 10:33:03 -0400
Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:

> As for the laptops... I personally have an Asus laptop. It’s 5 years
> old and getting wonky. it’s notably slow, in either Win 7 or Win 10.

linux and an ssd will prolong its life and probably improve battery
performance

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#96294

Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 10:33:03 -0400
> Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> As for the laptops... I personally have an Asus laptop. It’s 5 years
>> old and getting wonky. it’s notably slow, in either Win 7 or Win 10.
> 
> linux and an ssd will prolong its life and probably improve battery
> performance

Wrong. Linux often does a much worse job of preserving battery life:

<http://askubuntu.com/questions/158778/why-does-ubuntu-have-about-2x-shorter-battery-life-than-os-x-on-macbook>

Also Linux is best suited for servers and is an extremely poor choice for a
desktop operating system.

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#96333

In message <nvagj5$5ik$1@dont-email.me> 
  Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 10:33:03 -0400
> Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:

>> As for the laptops... I personally have an Asus laptop. It’s 5 years
>> old and getting wonky. it’s notably slow, in either Win 7 or Win 10.

> linux and an ssd will prolong its life and probably improve battery
> performance

Linux? Improve battery life? Bwahahahahahaha!

You are delusional.

(and you still don't know how to post)

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after night after night after night

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#95367

On 2016-10-06 09:28, Travis Bickle wrote:
>
> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three
> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for
> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use
> his Apple toys...

It's not about my service, but the timing.  My 'cycle' ends on the 12th 
of the month.  If I'm near cap, then I can wait 'til the 13th to 
download.  If I'm way under cap then I want to do as much updating as 
possible in the current cycle.  When my son is staying here, he gets to 
pay the $5 bump for an extra 25 GB if we go over.

If I bought the next level I'd end up wasting tons of BW for nothing. 
Money wasted.

Note that a Windows machine to the same spec as an iMac with quad core 
i7, etc,  would not be cheap.  Discount the screen of the iMac (which is 
tremendous value in itself) and a Mac is very good value.  Exp

Secondly, I run a given iMac for at least 5 years - but I've got the 
notion this one can easily go 7 or 8 before I feel the need for an update.

Paying $20/month more for bandwidth that I don't typically need would be 
wasting money.  Let's see $20 x 12 x 5 years=$1200.  Enough to buy half 
of a new iMac... seems the right move to me.

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   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95381

On 2016-10-06 09:28:26 -0400, Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> said:

> On 10/4/16 6:32 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2016-10-03 21:14, Travis Bickle wrote:
>>> On 10/3/16 6:59 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>>>> Apple to automatically cram macOS Sierra into Macs – 'cos that worked
>>>> well for Windows 10
>>>> And they say Microsoft never innovates anything…
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/03/apple_automatic_installs_of_macos_sierra/?mt=1475529306569




I 
>>>>> 
>>>> take it that in reality, this will just be the background download of
>>>> that 5gig thing, but you still get an app that launches for install that
>>>> you can kill ?  (and article mentiones it does this only if you have
>>>> automatic downloads enabled).  Tempest in teapot ?
>>>> 
>>>> Still, I don't think 5 gig downloads should happen without user's
>>>> consent.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well imagine that!
>>> 
>>> A high tech company pushes out a free upgrade to its newest operating
>>> system so its customers will be running the latest, most powerful, and
>>> most secure OS...yet pinheads find a reason to whine and complain.
>> 
>> You've proven yourself a lightweight in such matters - the clear message
>> is that for those with BW caps, it is not a welcome thing.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Yeah, I'm sure that includes lots and lots of people.
> 
> Someone who can afford Macs and is willing to shell out two or three 
> times what a Windows rig would have cost can't pony up a few bucks for 
> internet service that allows him to download enough so that he can use 
> his Apple toys...

Maybe if you hit mom up for an increase in allowance, you wouldn't be 
so bitter about it...
-- 
"Just when you thought there wasn't a dime's worth of difference 
between the two parties, the Republicans go and prove you're wrong." 
-Molly Ivins

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#95742

On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:59:47 -0400
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> install that you can kill ?  (and article mentiones it does this only
> if you have automatic downloads enabled).  Tempest in teapot ?

no that is incorrect the download happens no matter what

> Still, I don't think 5 gig downloads should happen without user's
> consent.

ne meither


but the real question to ask is why are they forcing this

since it is a departure from past updates we can make some guesses

there are some serious flaws in el capitan that cannot and will not
get fixed and which are being actively exploited now

maybe the new bug bounty only applies to el capitan and there are
so many it has become a problem

they want more user data and more people locked in to the cloud
because the cloud is so great and they want to make sure everyone
benefits from that greatness

they want to simplify the supported code base across all their
hardware so the sooner everyone gets to sierra the better

they want to obosolete mountains of hardware to force new purchases

they just want their customers to be happy and joyful using the
new os and so they want to force it on them because sometimes
joy and happiness needs to be forced on the sheep to remind them
they are joyful and happy and nothing else

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#95743

On 10-18-2016 12:33, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:59:47 -0400
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> install that you can kill ?  (and article mentiones it does this only
>> if you have automatic downloads enabled).  Tempest in teapot ?
>
> no that is incorrect the download happens no matter what

NOT TRUE.

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#95859

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:44:33 -0500
"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

> NOT TRUE.

4.7gb sierra installer has been spotted with updates off

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#95861

On 2016-10-20, Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:44:33 -0500
> "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>
>> NOT TRUE.
>
> 4.7gb sierra installer has been spotted with updates off

Citation, or I call bullshit.

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