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Disable Desktop switch animation?

Started byMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
First post2016-10-06 22:18 -0400
Last post2016-10-07 22:03 +0000
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  Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-06 22:18 -0400
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-06 23:29 -0700
      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-10-07 13:23 +0100
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-07 09:37 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-07 16:26 +0000
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:36 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:34 -0500
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:39 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:23 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-08 15:53 -0600
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 17:58 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-09 12:23 +1300
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-08 23:00 -0600
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-09 19:16 +1300
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-09 11:20 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-07 22:06 +0000
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:45 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:29 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:47 +0000
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 12:51 -0400
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 18:45 +0000
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 15:16 -0400
                      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 21:00 +0000
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 19:55 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 08:39 -0700
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 20:43 +0000
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 20:17 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 01:35 +0000
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:14 -0400
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:06 +0000
                      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-10 23:59 -0400
                        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:22 -0400
                          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-13 16:17 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 06:42 +0000
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:20 -0400
                    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:00 +0000
                      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:05 -0400
                        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-11 05:28 +0000
                          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-13 16:22 -0400
                          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-13 16:24 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-07 19:57 -0700
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 11:39 +0000
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 09:51 -0400
      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-07 10:41 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 11:38 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-07 17:26 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 10:15 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-08 21:08 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 10:08 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 08:46 -0700
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:17 -0500
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 14:12 -0700
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 18:40 -0500
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 10:12 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 15:39 +0000
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 20:27 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-09 11:19 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:06 -0400
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-08 21:14 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:27 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:08 +0000
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-07 10:33 -0400
      Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 18:59 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 23:14 +0000
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 23:38 +0000
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-08 20:51 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 06:44 +0000
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:49 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 12:09 -0400
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:14 -0400
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 18:01 +0000
                Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 16:37 -0700
                  Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-10 14:35 +1300
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-08 19:42 -0400
        Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 23:17 -0700
          Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-09 09:55 -0400
            Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 12:09 -0400
              Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-11 00:20 -0400
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-07 16:26 +0000
    Re: Disable Desktop switch animation? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-07 22:03 +0000

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#95443

FromMichael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com>
Date2016-10-07 19:57 -0700
Message-ID<mev94303y-C12277.19573807102016@news.individual.net>
In reply to#95419
In article <nt844o$1pcs$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
 Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:

> On 07/10/2016 07:29, Michael Vilain wrote:
> > If it's really an issue, don't use the system that way.  Logout when
> > you're done like on Linux.
> 
> What does logging out have to do with anything? The OP is asking about 
> switching desktops, not users.
> 
> In Sierra, you can turn off the animation by checking the "Reduce 
> Motion" box in the Accessibility settings, Display tab.
> 
> If you don't mind a third-party app, Total Spaces has an option to turn 
> off the animation:
> <http://totalspaces.binaryage.com>
> 
> Otherwise, I think the best you can do is use the three-finger gesture 
> to swipe between desktops -- if you do that, the animation speed follows 
> the swipe speed, so if you need it to go slower, swipe slower. That's 
> obviously a bit of a productivity-killer, though.

The "switch desktops" feature I equated to "the cube-line switch to 
another user's desktop when they login".  I don't change my desktop 
dynamically or randomly because I use 6 different desktops and cycle 
through them with Total Spaces.  The desktop pic tells me which one I'm 
on. It's worth every penny.

You can control the style of animation when you switch to a specific 
desktop using control-[1234] keys.  That's in the System Preferences > 
Mission Control Preferences panel, along with the number of screens you 
pre-define.

Total Spaces also has an animation-style selector.

But the cube switch for switching to another user's desktop can't be 
disabled AFAIK.  So don't have two people logged in at the same time.

-- 
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#95447

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-10-08 11:39 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnvhmoc.13oo.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#95443
In message <mev94303y-C12277.19573807102016@news.individual.net> 
  Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You can control the style of animation when you switch to a specific 
> desktop using control-[1234] keys.  That's in the System Preferences > 
> Mission Control Preferences panel,

I see no such setting.


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#95451

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 09:51 -0400
Message-ID<ntatl4$ii2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95443
On 2016/10/07 10:57 PM, Michael Vilain wrote:
> I use 6 different desktops and cycle
> through them with Total Spaces. ... It's worth every penny.

Yeah, I thought it looked pretty spiffy. I don't tend to use more than 
the one, myself. I _have_ used more than one in the past but it's never 
become a habit with me, except on Linux where I run Kodi on its own 
desktop because it jumbles up the UI. At least it doesn't disable the 
switch; I can switch to the other desktop to have the standard UI.
-- 
Malcolm

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#95422

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2016-10-07 10:41 -0400
Message-ID<071020161041240823%star@sky.net>
In reply to#95414
MalcolmO:
> > My son says it makes him sea-sick. Can one 
> > switch instantly, without motion/animation?

Get him some Dramamine. Tell him to look away during the switch. Tell
him to man up.

Michael Vilain:
> Or just run Ubuntu on the machine.

Great solution. Just give up all of the professional productivity
apps‹Adobe, Apple, Microsoft‹that you've been using to 30 years and
switch to running server software and have fun with ASCII art. No
thanks.

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you will say in your entire life.

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#95423

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-07 11:38 -0400
Message-ID<DpqdncdY05_uXGrKnZ2dnUU7-dXNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95422
On 2016-10-07 10:41, Davoud wrote:
> MalcolmO:
>>> My son says it makes him sea-sick. Can one
>>> switch instantly, without motion/animation?
>
> Get him some Dramamine. Tell him to look away during the switch. Tell
> him to man up.
>
> Michael Vilain:
>> Or just run Ubuntu on the machine.
>
> Great solution. Just give up all of the professional productivity
> apps‹Adobe, Apple, Microsoft‹that you've been using to 30 years and
> switch to running server software and have fun with ASCII art. No
> thanks.

Linux and apps are far beyond simplistic.  The real problem is that the 
mainline productivity apps are not available on Linux (MS suite, Adobe 
suites, etc.)  The substitutes are adequate for some but add a layer of 
complexity when working with others who are not Linux fans.

In the end, Linux is a great OS, with some basic (and aging) security 
flaws and a horrible desktop landscape not suitable for mass use.  Why, 
despite a very competitive price, it's share of the desktop market is 
eroding away.

In other areas, it is king and appropriately so.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95438

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2016-10-07 17:26 -0400
Message-ID<071020161726440700%star@sky.net>
In reply to#95423
MalcolmO:
> >>> My son says it makes him sea-sick. Can one
> >>> switch instantly, without motion/animation?

Davoud:
> > Get him some Dramamine. Tell him to look away during the switch. Tell
> > him to man up.

> > Michael Vilain:
> >> Or just run Ubuntu on the machine.

Davoud:
> > Great solution. Just give up all of the professional productivity
> > apps‹Adobe, Apple, Microsoft‹that you've been using to 30 years and
> > switch to running server software and have fun with ASCII art. No
> > thanks.

Alan Browne:
> Linux and apps are far beyond simplistic.  The real problem is that the 
> mainline productivity apps are not available on Linux (MS suite, Adobe 
> suites, etc.)  The substitutes are adequate for some but add a layer of 
> complexity when working with others who are not Linux fans.
> 
> In the end, Linux is a great OS, with some basic (and aging) security 
> flaws and a horrible desktop landscape not suitable for mass use.  Why, 
> despite a very competitive price, it's share of the desktop market is 
> eroding away.
> 
> In other areas, it is king and appropriately so.

Exactly what I meant. If I decide to get out of the graphics business
and my wife decides to give up writing and criticism and we decide to
open a server farm, we'll definitely look at some Linux boxes. Until
then, we're very happy with Mac OS.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#95454

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-08 10:15 -0400
Message-ID<acGdnUkvQr0IYmXKnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95438
On 2016-10-07 17:26, Davoud wrote:

> Davoud:
>>> Great solution. Just give up all of the professional productivity
>>> apps‹Adobe, Apple, Microsoft‹that you've been using to 30 years and
>>> switch to running server software and have fun with ASCII art. No
>>> thanks.
>
> Alan Browne:
>> Linux and apps are far beyond simplistic.  The real problem is that the
>> mainline productivity apps are not available on Linux (MS suite, Adobe
>> suites, etc.)  The substitutes are adequate for some but add a layer of
>> complexity when working with others who are not Linux fans.
>>
>> In the end, Linux is a great OS, with some basic (and aging) security
>> flaws and a horrible desktop landscape not suitable for mass use.  Why,
>> despite a very competitive price, it's share of the desktop market is
>> eroding away.
>>
>> In other areas, it is king and appropriately so.
>
> Exactly what I meant. If I decide to get out of the graphics business
> and my wife decides to give up writing and criticism and we decide to
> open a server farm, we'll definitely look at some Linux boxes. Until
> then, we're very happy with Mac OS.

I sensed that in general - it was your ASCII art statement that I found 
to be somewhat ridiculous.


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#95483

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2016-10-08 21:08 -0400
Message-ID<081020162108410544%star@sky.net>
In reply to#95454
Davoud:
> > Exactly what I meant. If I decide to get out of the graphics business
> > and my wife decides to give up writing and criticism and we decide to
> > open a server farm, we'll definitely look at some Linux boxes. Until
> > then, we're very happy with Mac OS.

Alan Browne:
> I sensed that in general - it was your ASCII art statement that I found 
> to be somewhat ridiculous.

It's called "hyperbole." Still, can you name a single piece of
professional graphics or music software available for Linux/Unix? There
is video rendering software for use after the movie has come out of
post production on Mac or Windows and needs a large and cheap parallel
array, but that's the extent of it.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#95452

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 10:08 -0400
Message-ID<ntauku$lur$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95422
On 2016/10/07 10:41 AM, Davoud wrote:
>> Or just run Ubuntu on the machine.

> Great solution. Just give up all of the professional productivity
> apps

In fact, my son is a CS grad and was wall-to-wall Windows (and 
self-built) and had zero interest in Macintoshes. It was only when he 
decided to get into software development that the developer community 
convinced him that Mac was the only way to go. When he got his MBP in 
Sept. he messaged me: Got a Mac. Never thought I'd see the day!

He _does_ really like it as a dev enviro; he's just bumped by unwanted 
motion. I just hope that issue can be overcome and he can stop hankering 
for the view in ChromeOS. :P
-- 
Malcolm

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#95459

FromMichael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com>
Date2016-10-08 08:46 -0700
Message-ID<mev94303y-D04C33.08465508102016@news.individual.net>
In reply to#95452
In article <ntauku$lur$1@dont-email.me>, MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> 
wrote:

> On 2016/10/07 10:41 AM, Davoud wrote:
> >> Or just run Ubuntu on the machine.
> 
> > Great solution. Just give up all of the professional productivity
> > apps
> 
> In fact, my son is a CS grad and was wall-to-wall Windows (and 
> self-built) and had zero interest in Macintoshes. It was only when he 
> decided to get into software development that the developer community 
> convinced him that Mac was the only way to go. When he got his MBP in 
> Sept. he messaged me: Got a Mac. Never thought I'd see the day!
> 
> He _does_ really like it as a dev enviro; he's just bumped by unwanted 
> motion. I just hope that issue can be overcome and he can stop hankering 
> for the view in ChromeOS. :P

We had someone in our office (it's all Mac laptops) who refused to use a 
Mac. So they go him a Windows box.  By the time I got there, it was idle 
and gathering dust, so he overcame whatever objection he had to 
development on the machine.

There's nothing wrong with using a platform that suits *you*.  The fact 
that you can't disable the animations any more means he can't really use 
a Mac.  Sell it on Craigslist and get a laptop that can run Ubuntu or 
Fedora.  And hire someone else to do that artsy fartsy stuff with 
Photoshop that you can't really do on Linux with Gimp.  There's no shame 
in that.

If the tools he needs to do his job make him sick, he needs to find 
tools that don't do that.  Mac isn't the tool. Find one that works.

Screen switching on Gnome/KDE etc may also bother him. But he'll be able 
to dive into the code and turn that off, recompile it for his needs, and 
get an environment that works for him.

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#95465

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-10-08 14:17 -0500
Message-ID<ntbgoh$17e3$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#95459
On 10-08-2016 10:46, Michael Vilain wrote:
> If the tools he needs to do his job make him sick, he needs to find
> tools that don't do that.  Mac isn't the tool. Find one that works.

Again, isn't it a heck of a lot easier to learn to close your eyes 
before clicking that particular feature?

I was a developer for over thirty years.  Most of that time, multiple 
spaces were available, but I rarely found them useful.

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#95470

FromMichael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com>
Date2016-10-08 14:12 -0700
Message-ID<mev94303y-8452A3.14120308102016@news.individual.net>
In reply to#95465
In article <ntbgoh$17e3$5@gioia.aioe.org>,
 "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

> On 10-08-2016 10:46, Michael Vilain wrote:
> > If the tools he needs to do his job make him sick, he needs to find
> > tools that don't do that.  Mac isn't the tool. Find one that works.
> 
> Again, isn't it a heck of a lot easier to learn to close your eyes 
> before clicking that particular feature?
> 
> I was a developer for over thirty years.  Most of that time, multiple 
> spaces were available, but I rarely found them useful.

OK, this thread isn't really about you and your programming habits. Just 
because you don't use something or find it useful, why should someone 
else suffer.  You might as well ban same-sex marriage and abortion.

See?  Such arguments get silly after a while.  Let the kid figure out 
how he works best and leave him (and me) alone.  I'm not telling you 
that *you* have to use spaces or emacs or vi or program a project in 
Cobol (if you have, then show some dignity and don't mention it).

I learned from an ex-boss that effective managers let people figure out 
how they work best and let them do it that way (unless it seriously 
impacts productivity or security).

Back off Hobo.

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#95477

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-10-08 18:40 -0500
Message-ID<ntc062$1ujn$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#95470
On 10-08-2016 16:12, Michael Vilain wrote:
> See?  Such arguments get silly after a while.  Let the kid figure out
> how he works best and leave him (and me) alone.  I'm not telling you

Bitterly complaining about a minor detail of something you can't live 
without, yet angry at people who live without it and angry at 
super-simple ways to avoid the problem.

Hmmm.

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#95453

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 10:12 -0400
Message-ID<ntaurc$mlf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95422
On 2016/10/07 10:41 AM, Davoud wrote:
> Get him some Dramamine. Tell him to look away during the switch. Tell
> him to man up.

No, no, it's a legitimate neurological anomaly, as I discovered while 
researching this issue. My initial reaction was like yours, in that I 
figured it was something that he could get used to in short order. Turns 
out that's not the case for a certain segment of people.
-- 
Malcolm

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#95457

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-08 15:39 +0000
Message-ID<e5si97F86l5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#95453
MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
> On 2016/10/07 10:41 AM, Davoud wrote:
>> Get him some Dramamine. Tell him to look away during the switch. Tell
>> him to man up.
> 
> No, no, it's a legitimate neurological anomaly, as I discovered while 
> researching this issue. My initial reaction was like yours, in that I 
> figured it was something that he could get used to in short order. Turns 
> out that's not the case for a certain segment of people.

I'd send Apple (perhaps Tim Cook directly) a well-mannered, thoughtful
letter describing your son's condition, his aspirations of doing software
development on Apple kit, the problems the animations cause him, and
requesting help with it. 

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#95481

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-08 20:27 -0400
Message-ID<ntc2sn$isq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95457
On 2016/10/08 11:39 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> requesting help with it.

Wouldn't surprise me if that's already happened, considering that it's 
alleged to be selectable in Sierra.

Will follow up with him about that at 2 holiday dinners, tomorrow and 
Monday. (Tomorrow is Thanksgiving in Canada.)
-- 
Malcolm

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#95496

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-10-09 11:19 -0400
Message-ID<fsWdnWL67ZN3wmfKnZ2dnUU7-UudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#95481
On 2016-10-08 20:27, MalcolmO wrote:
> On 2016/10/08 11:39 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> requesting help with it.
>
> Wouldn't surprise me if that's already happened, considering that it's
> alleged to be selectable in Sierra.
>
> Will follow up with him about that at 2 holiday dinners, tomorrow and
> Monday. (Tomorrow is Thanksgiving in Canada.)

Actually it's tomorrow.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95522

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 00:06 -0400
Message-ID<nthog4$dpd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95496
On 2016/10/09 11:19 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> Actually it's tomorrow.

Yes, it was actually just my Thanksgiving dinner that was on Sunday. My bad.
-- 
Malcolm

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#95484

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2016-10-08 21:14 -0400
Message-ID<081020162114180752%star@sky.net>
In reply to#95453
Davoud:
> > Get him some Dramamine. Tell him to look away during the switch. Tell
> > him to man up.

MalcolmO:
> No, no, it's a legitimate neurological anomaly, as I discovered while 
> researching this issue. My initial reaction was like yours, in that I 
> figured it was something that he could get used to in short order. Turns 
> out that's not the case for a certain segment of people.

OK, then scratch my frivolous remarks above and get him off the Mac and
onto Windows.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#95493

FromMalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Date2016-10-09 09:27 -0400
Message-ID<ntdgk3$65l$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#95484
On 2016/10/08 9:14 PM, Davoud wrote:
> get him off the Mac and
> onto Windows.

As I said elsewhere in the thread, he's *ALWAYS* been wall-to-wall 
Windows. He's also an honours CS grad who had to create his own OS to 
get his degree. When he gets a new phone he edits the source code and 
recompiles and reinstalls. He's not an unsophisticated user by any 
means. His main machine is still a Win7 tower attached to his TV. He 
coughed up the big bucks for a new MBP to be his development 
environment. He just has the one issue with the Spaces animation.
-- 
Malcolm

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