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Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID

Started byDavoud <star@sky.net>
First post2016-09-20 21:42 -0400
Last post2016-09-24 20:44 -0500
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  Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-20 21:42 -0400
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-20 22:29 -0700
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-21 09:20 -0400
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-21 08:05 -0700
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-21 11:17 -0400
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-22 03:31 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:37 -0500
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-22 11:13 -0500
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-22 12:26 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-23 02:25 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2016-09-23 19:50 +0200
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-09-22 16:29 -0600
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-22 15:48 -0700
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-22 21:00 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-22 21:51 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-09-22 20:26 -0600
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-23 10:55 -0400
                  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-23 10:11 -0700
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-23 13:21 -0400
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2016-09-23 11:45 -0600
                      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-23 19:01 +0000
                        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:10 -0600
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-23 18:13 -0700
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-24 17:44 -0400
          Caps Lock keys (Was: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID) David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-22 21:50 -0700
            Re: Caps Lock keys dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-23 20:17 +1200
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-23 20:05 -0500
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-24 01:55 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 01:59 +0000
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-27 00:21 +0000
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 09:14 -0400
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 12:31 -0400
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 16:54 +0000
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-24 09:57 -0700
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 13:03 -0400
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 17:40 +0000
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 13:47 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 18:14 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 15:09 -0400
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-27 00:23 +0000
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-26 17:51 -0700
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-26 20:58 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-27 10:57 -0400
                  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-27 13:10 -0400
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-28 10:32 -0400
                      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-29 10:25 +1300
                        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-28 18:40 -0500
                          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-29 13:28 +1300
                  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-28 02:28 +0000
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-27 22:30 -0400
                      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-28 05:06 +0000
                        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 10:30 -0400
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-28 10:27 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:12 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:11 -0400
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-25 02:56 +0000
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-25 17:04 -0400
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-26 04:37 +0000
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-26 12:57 -0500
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-26 18:47 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-27 01:02 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:19 -0400
                  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-29 00:16 +0000
                    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 20:39 -0400
                      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-29 01:26 +0000
                  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-29 04:25 +0000
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 16:11 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-03 22:52 +0000
                  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-03 20:20 -0500
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2016-09-26 08:52 +0200
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screws up (Apple ID or preferences or ....) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-24 20:44 -0500

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#94825

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-09-27 01:02 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnujh9s.jfj.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#94819
In message <5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-26 00:37, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <b4mdnSgzwNV1pnXKnZ2dnUU7-YvNnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-24 22:56, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <z8WdnVf3S7nzN3vKnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-09-20 21:42, Davoud wrote:
>>>>>> After entering my Apple ID and password CORRECTLY several times
>>>>>> FaceTime said I had entered it incorrectly too many times and I had to
>>>>>> reset it. So I did. Successfully, according to the web page. Then I
>>>>>> went through the process again--entering it CORRECTLY--and the process
>>>>>> repeated. Grrrr!
>>>>
>>>>> Also screwed up my keyboard settings (option and CMD keys).  I don't
>>>>> recall this happening on previous installs.  Easily remedied of course.
>>>>
>>>> I've installed Sierra on... <counting>
>>>>
>>>> 37 Macs, I think. Possibly 39.
>>>>
>>>> Not one of them lost any network, AppleID, Sharing, or keyboard
>>>> settings. Not one.
>>
>>> I'm quite surprised.  Various people are reporting various things going
>>> boink and you walk through nearly 40 unscathed.  The odds.
>>
>> "Various people" is a meaningless wishy washy phrase. Many people are
>> stupid and do stupid things when installing. Many people fuck up their
>> installs by trying to do things they think are clever.

> Hmm.  DL'd the upgrade and upgraded.  Period.  Every machine I did it to 
> has something get set differently.

>>
>> With a fairly recent OS X install (10.8, IIRC) a user didn't want to go
>> through the installer app "because it took too long" so he found out how
>> to create a bootable thumb drive and then tried to manually copy the
>> files to his boot drive.
>>
>> He is one of "various people".

> So am I.  And with nothing clever being done, three machines (so far) - 
> all with minor nits happening.  Three to go.

>>
>>> - my Mac, lost keyboard settings (above).  App Store required re-entry
>>> of the password; Printer sharing was off; PowerNap was enabled - should
>>> not have been;
>>
>> App Store is *always* requiring re-entry of the password. That has
>> nothing to do with a system update. In fact, the longest you can have it
>> remember a password is 15 minutes, and that clock expires on a reboot.

> Not quite.  App store on my Mac never requests a password for updates. 
> Yet, after the Sierra update, I had to re-enter it.  NBD.


>>
>>> Also had to DL and install Command Line Tools so my compilers will work
>>> (par for the course with major updates - but annoying each time).
>>
>> Yes, of course you do. It takes about a minute, and you've had to
>> install them with each new OS version for a long time now

> Yes, that's why I said so.  Still it's annoying considering that I'm 
> running several very simple compilers.

You are running LLVM via clang, just like everyone else.


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#94887

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-09-28 19:19 -0400
Message-ID<4q2dncnjE-2azXHKnZ2dnUU7-IHNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#94825
On 2016-09-26 21:02, Lewis wrote:
> In message <5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

>> Yes, that's why I said so.  Still it's annoying considering that I'm
>> running several very simple compilers.
>
> You are running LLVM via clang, just like everyone else.

For Ada, yes.  (OK, not so simple)

For Pascal, no.  That compiles to assembler source (x86, x86_64) which 
is then assembled to the executable.


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#94896

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-09-29 00:16 +0000
Message-ID<e534rrF6bvhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#94887
On 2016-09-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-26 21:02, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Yes, that's why I said so.  Still it's annoying considering that I'm
>>> running several very simple compilers.
>>
>> You are running LLVM via clang, just like everyone else.
>
> For Ada, yes.  (OK, not so simple)
>
> For Pascal, no.  That compiles to assembler source (x86, x86_64) which 
> is then assembled to the executable.

Which Pascal compiler packages do you use? Got a link?

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#94905

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-09-28 20:39 -0400
Message-ID<n-KdnSCk8qVL_3HKnZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#94896
On 2016-09-28 20:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-09-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-26 21:02, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> Yes, that's why I said so.  Still it's annoying considering that I'm
>>>> running several very simple compilers.
>>>
>>> You are running LLVM via clang, just like everyone else.
>>
>> For Ada, yes.  (OK, not so simple)
>>
>> For Pascal, no.  That compiles to assembler source (x86, x86_64) which
>> is then assembled to the executable.
>
> Which Pascal compiler packages do you use? Got a link?

http://www.freepascal.org/


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#94908

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-09-29 01:26 +0000
Message-ID<e538udF78ubU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#94905
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-28 20:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2016-09-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-26 21:02, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Yes, that's why I said so.  Still it's annoying considering that I'm
>>>>> running several very simple compilers.
>>>> 
>>>> You are running LLVM via clang, just like everyone else.
>>> 
>>> For Ada, yes.  (OK, not so simple)
>>> 
>>> For Pascal, no.  That compiles to assembler source (x86, x86_64) which
>>> is then assembled to the executable.
>> 
>> Which Pascal compiler packages do you use? Got a link?
> 
> http://www.freepascal.org/

Thanks.

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#94916

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-09-29 04:25 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnup5tl.1bf7.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#94887
In message <4q2dncnjE-2azXHKnZ2dnUU7-IHNnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-26 21:02, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

>>> Yes, that's why I said so.  Still it's annoying considering that I'm
>>> running several very simple compilers.
>>
>> You are running LLVM via clang, just like everyone else.

> For Ada, yes.  (OK, not so simple)

> For Pascal, no.  That compiles to assembler source (x86, x86_64) which 
> is then assembled to the executable.

You're still using LLVM.




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#95135

From"Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com>
Date2016-10-03 16:11 -0400
Message-ID<nsue10$2fv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#94819

"Alan Browne"  wrote in message 
news:5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com...

On 2016-09-26 00:37, Lewis wrote:
> In message <b4mdnSgzwNV1pnXKnZ2dnUU7-YvNnZ2d@giganews.com>
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-24 22:56, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <z8WdnVf3S7nzN3vKnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-09-20 21:42, Davoud wrote:
>>>>> After entering my Apple ID and password CORRECTLY several times
>>>>> FaceTime said I had entered it incorrectly too many times and I had to
>>>>> reset it. So I did. Successfully, according to the web page. Then I
>>>>> went through the process again--entering it CORRECTLY--and the process
>>>>> repeated. Grrrr!
>>>
>>>> Also screwed up my keyboard settings (option and CMD keys).  I don't
>>>> recall this happening on previous installs.  Easily remedied of course.
>>>
>>> I've installed Sierra on... <counting>
>>>
>>> 37 Macs, I think. Possibly 39.
>>>
>>> Not one of them lost any network, AppleID, Sharing, or keyboard
>>> settings. Not one.
>
>> I'm quite surprised.  Various people are reporting various things going
>> boink and you walk through nearly 40 unscathed.  The odds.
>
> "Various people" is a meaningless wishy washy phrase. Many people are
> stupid and do stupid things when installing. Many people fuck up their
> installs by trying to do things they think are clever.

Yes, it's the people, never Apple.  Spoken like a true, brain dead Apphole.


>Hmm.  DL'd the upgrade and upgraded.  Period.  Every machine I did it to 
>has something get set differently.

Run a Mac, expect some very weird problems.  Remember "just works"? 

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#95156

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-10-03 22:52 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnv5oa1.gc2.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#95135
In message <nsue10$2fv$1@dont-email.me> 
  Mongoose <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> wrote:


> "Alan Browne"  wrote in message 
> news:5s-dneVM-voYOHTKnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com...

> On 2016-09-26 00:37, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <b4mdnSgzwNV1pnXKnZ2dnUU7-YvNnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-24 22:56, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <z8WdnVf3S7nzN3vKnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-09-20 21:42, Davoud wrote:
>>>>>> After entering my Apple ID and password CORRECTLY several times
>>>>>> FaceTime said I had entered it incorrectly too many times and I had to
>>>>>> reset it. So I did. Successfully, according to the web page. Then I
>>>>>> went through the process again--entering it CORRECTLY--and the process
>>>>>> repeated. Grrrr!
>>>>
>>>>> Also screwed up my keyboard settings (option and CMD keys).  I don't
>>>>> recall this happening on previous installs.  Easily remedied of course.
>>>>
>>>> I've installed Sierra on... <counting>
>>>>
>>>> 37 Macs, I think. Possibly 39.
>>>>
>>>> Not one of them lost any network, AppleID, Sharing, or keyboard
>>>> settings. Not one.
>>
>>> I'm quite surprised.  Various people are reporting various things going
>>> boink and you walk through nearly 40 unscathed.  The odds.
>>
>> "Various people" is a meaningless wishy washy phrase. Many people are
>> stupid and do stupid things when installing. Many people fuck up their
>> installs by trying to do things they think are clever.

> Yes, it's the people, never Apple.  Spoken like a true, brain dead Apphole.

A random problem that is not encountered by most people but is
encountered repeatedly by one person is almost certainly that person.

>>Hmm.  DL'd the upgrade and upgraded.  Period.  Every machine I did it to 
>>has something get set differently.

Learn to quote, you moron. I did not write that.

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You're talkin' a lot, but you're not sayin' anything
When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed
Say something once, why say it again?

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#95204

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-10-03 20:20 -0500
Message-ID<nsv04k$qts$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#95156
Solomon once wrote:
"Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.
[But] don't answer a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him."

I think the conclusion there is don't answer a fool.

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#94801

FromMe, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl>
Date2016-09-26 08:52 +0200
Message-ID<57e8c5b4$0$4289$e4fe514c@newszilla.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#94781
On 2016-09-25 21:04:40 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> On 2016-09-24 22:56, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <z8WdnVf3S7nzN3vKnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com>
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-20 21:42, Davoud wrote:
>>>> After entering my Apple ID and password CORRECTLY several times
>>>> FaceTime said I had entered it incorrectly too many times and I had to
>>>> reset it. So I did. Successfully, according to the web page. Then I
>>>> went through the process again--entering it CORRECTLY--and the process
>>>> repeated. Grrrr!
>> 
>>> Also screwed up my keyboard settings (option and CMD keys).  I don't
>>> recall this happening on previous installs.  Easily remedied of course.
>> 
>> I've installed Sierra on... <counting>
>> 
>> 37 Macs, I think. Possibly 39.
>> 
>> Not one of them lost any network, AppleID, Sharing, or keyboard
>> settings. Not one.
> 
> I'm quite surprised.  Various people are reporting various things going 
> boink and you walk through nearly 40 unscathed.  The odds.

He probably hasn't contacted his clients yet or they don't know about 
the bugs or don't use all apps.

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#94753 — Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screws up (Apple ID or preferences or ....)

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2016-09-24 20:44 -0500
SubjectRe: Grrrr! Sierra Screws up (Apple ID or preferences or ....)
Message-ID<ns7a6c$105o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#94635
On 09-20-2016 20:42, Davoud wrote:
> After entering my Apple ID and password CORRECTLY several times
> FaceTime said I had entered it incorrectly ....

How did you determine that the correct characters were hiding behind 
those spots?

Sierra didn't cause me any problems with my Apple ID.  In fact, it 
actually fixed a problem.  I started getting spam at the Apple ID 
address, so I created a new address for it.  I probably should have 
logged out of everything first (if I could even remember what was logged 
in) because one or more items (I've already forgotten which) kept asking 
for the password and rejecting it because it was using the old ID.  Even 
though the password did not change, it wasn't valid for an account that 
no longer exists.

Sierra did however, put a few preferences I had changed back to their 
defaults.

The only other problem I've noticed is that after working for a while in 
LibreOffice Calc or Writer, suddenly *every* operation produces a 
spinning beachball for half a minute or more before doing what was 
wanted.  Other apps seem to work fine while I wait for LibOff.  And 
quitting LibreOffice and relaunching fixes it.  So it's probably not 
Apple's fault, but it's interesting that it started about the time I 
upgraded.

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