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| Started by | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| First post | 2016-03-29 15:56 +0000 |
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REgularly crashing Portable MAc doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2016-03-29 15:56 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:12 -0700
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2016-03-29 21:10 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2016-03-30 19:39 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 22:27 -0700
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2016-03-31 13:19 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-31 15:16 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2016-03-31 20:23 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2016-04-01 06:48 +0100
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2016-04-01 15:34 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-29 17:52 +0000
Re: REgularly crashing Portable MAc Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-03-29 12:56 -0700
| From | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 15:56 +0000 |
| Subject | REgularly crashing Portable MAc |
| Message-ID | <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca> |
Here is one. A mac that crashes regularly and a possible memory chip incompatibilty. What should I look for? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!!
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| From | Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 09:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mev94303y-756303.09122429032016@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90483 |
In article <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > Here is one. > > A mac that crashes regularly > > and > > a possible memory chip incompatibilty. > > What should I look for? Remove the 3rd-party memory, do that. Run without it and see if the system continues to crash. If it still crashes, look for an Apple Genius Bar and have them check it out. There's a limited amount of things you can do with limping hardware. Be ready to replace the motherboard or at the very least buy more 3rd party memory. The Crucial stuff I bought has been flawless for over 3 years, so I doubt that's it. But Apple will point fingers at whatever isn't theirs. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 21:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nder11$dl6$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca> |
| In reply to | #90486 |
In article <mev94303y-756303.09122429032016@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >In article <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, > doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > >> Here is one. >> >> A mac that crashes regularly >> >> and >> >> a possible memory chip incompatibilty. >> >> What should I look for? > >Remove the 3rd-party memory, do that. Run without it and see if the >system continues to crash. > >If it still crashes, look for an Apple Genius Bar and have them check it >out. > >There's a limited amount of things you can do with limping hardware. Be >ready to replace the motherboard or at the very least buy more 3rd party >memory. The Crucial stuff I bought has been flawless for over 3 years, >so I doubt that's it. But Apple will point fingers at whatever isn't >theirs. > Time to start digging. Also this in a 10.6 system >-- >DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... >[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored] > > -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!!
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| From | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 19:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca> |
| In reply to | #90509 |
In article <nder11$dl6$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >In article <mev94303y-756303.09122429032016@news.individual.net>, >Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >>In article <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, >> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: >> >>> Here is one. >>> >>> A mac that crashes regularly >>> >>> and >>> >>> a possible memory chip incompatibilty. >>> >>> What should I look for? >> >>Remove the 3rd-party memory, do that. Run without it and see if the >>system continues to crash. >> >>If it still crashes, look for an Apple Genius Bar and have them check it >>out. >> >>There's a limited amount of things you can do with limping hardware. Be >>ready to replace the motherboard or at the very least buy more 3rd party >>memory. The Crucial stuff I bought has been flawless for over 3 years, >>so I doubt that's it. But Apple will point fingers at whatever isn't >>theirs. >> > >Time to start digging. > >Also this in a 10.6 system > I got the memory chips out. I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. All right what the hell are they? >>-- >>DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... >>[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored] >> >> > > >-- >Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca >God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! >http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism >Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!! -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!!
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| From | Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 22:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mev94303y-0056EC.22272230032016@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90563 |
In article <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > In article <nder11$dl6$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, > The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: > >In article <mev94303y-756303.09122429032016@news.individual.net>, > >Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>In article <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, > >> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > >> > >>> Here is one. > >>> > >>> A mac that crashes regularly > >>> > >>> and > >>> > >>> a possible memory chip incompatibilty. > >>> > >>> What should I look for? > >> > >>Remove the 3rd-party memory, do that. Run without it and see if the > >>system continues to crash. > >> > >>If it still crashes, look for an Apple Genius Bar and have them check it > >>out. > >> > >>There's a limited amount of things you can do with limping hardware. Be > >>ready to replace the motherboard or at the very least buy more 3rd party > >>memory. The Crucial stuff I bought has been flawless for over 3 years, > >>so I doubt that's it. But Apple will point fingers at whatever isn't > >>theirs. > >> > > > >Time to start digging. > > > >Also this in a 10.6 system > > > > I got the memory chips out. > > I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. > > All right what the hell are they? I guess Google is broken on your side of the pond. Pity. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 13:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndj84j$k6f$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca> |
| In reply to | #90593 |
In article <mev94303y-0056EC.22272230032016@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >In article <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, > doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > >> In article <nder11$dl6$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, >> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >> >In article <mev94303y-756303.09122429032016@news.individual.net>, >> >Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>In article <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, >> >> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: >> >> >> >>> Here is one. >> >>> >> >>> A mac that crashes regularly >> >>> >> >>> and >> >>> >> >>> a possible memory chip incompatibilty. >> >>> >> >>> What should I look for? >> >> >> >>Remove the 3rd-party memory, do that. Run without it and see if the >> >>system continues to crash. >> >> >> >>If it still crashes, look for an Apple Genius Bar and have them check it >> >>out. >> >> >> >>There's a limited amount of things you can do with limping hardware. Be >> >>ready to replace the motherboard or at the very least buy more 3rd party >> >>memory. The Crucial stuff I bought has been flawless for over 3 years, >> >>so I doubt that's it. But Apple will point fingers at whatever isn't >> >>theirs. >> >> >> > >> >Time to start digging. >> > >> >Also this in a 10.6 system >> > >> >> I got the memory chips out. >> >> I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. >> >> All right what the hell are they? > >I guess Google is broken on your side of the pond. Pity. > Well I have no time with no-name products. Personally I prefer Kingston memory products. I had to settle with Corsair though :-( >-- >DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... >[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored] > > -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!!
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 15:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dm4tamF4av6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90604 |
On 2016-03-31, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: > In article <mev94303y-0056EC.22272230032016@news.individual.net>, > Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >>In article <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, >> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: >> >>> I got the memory chips out. >>> >>> I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. >>> >>> All right what the hell are they? >> >>I guess Google is broken on your side of the pond. Pity. > > Well I have no time with no-name products. > > Personally I prefer Kingston memory products. > > I had to settle with Corsair though :-( *WHOOSH* I'll spell it out just for you: the reason you aren't getting much help with this is you have provided the bare minimum of information in your questions. Garbage in, garbage out. Nobody wants to hold your hand and pull your teeth just to help you out. Show that you have put some effort into it and you will find others more willing to help. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 20:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk100$f2g$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca> |
| In reply to | #90605 |
In article <dm4tamF4av6U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2016-03-31, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >> In article <mev94303y-0056EC.22272230032016@news.individual.net>, >> Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>In article <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, >>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: >>> >>>> I got the memory chips out. >>>> >>>> I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. >>>> >>>> All right what the hell are they? >>> >>>I guess Google is broken on your side of the pond. Pity. >> >> Well I have no time with no-name products. >> >> Personally I prefer Kingston memory products. >> >> I had to settle with Corsair though :-( > >*WHOOSH* > >I'll spell it out just for you: the reason you aren't getting much help >with this is you have provided the bare minimum of information in your >questions. Garbage in, garbage out. Nobody wants to hold your hand and >pull your teeth just to help you out. Show that you have put some effort >into it and you will find others more willing to help. > Well someone did suggest replacing the non-standard memory. >-- >E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. >I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. > >JR -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!!
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| From | Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> |
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| Date | 2016-04-01 06:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <andreas-D7EF22.06485201042016@news.individual.de> |
| In reply to | #90619 |
Salut doctor In article <ndk100$f2g$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > In article <dm4tamF4av6U1@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >On 2016-03-31, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: > >> In article <mev94303y-0056EC.22272230032016@news.individual.net>, > >> Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>In article <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, > >>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > >>> > >>>> I got the memory chips out. > >>>> > >>>> I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. > >>>> > >>>> All right what the hell are they? > >>> > >>>I guess Google is broken on your side of the pond. Pity. > >> > >> Well I have no time with no-name products. > >> > >> Personally I prefer Kingston memory products. > >> > >> I had to settle with Corsair though :-( > > > >*WHOOSH* > > > >I'll spell it out just for you: the reason you aren't getting much help > >with this is you have provided the bare minimum of information in your > >questions. Garbage in, garbage out. Nobody wants to hold your hand and > >pull your teeth just to help you out. Show that you have put some effort > >into it and you will find others more willing to help. > > > > Well someone did suggest replacing the non-standard memory. hm, never heard of Zeppelin RAM in my career... Searching for them, there is 1 seller in the UK and some more in eastern eurotean countries. Maybe you could tell us, what sort of portable Mac is crashing? The Model Identifier from System Profiler could be a start. Cheers Andreas -- MacAndreas Rutishauser, <http://www.MacAndreas.ch> EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung <mailto:andreas@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47
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| From | doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) |
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| Date | 2016-04-01 15:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndm4eo$c1c$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca> |
| In reply to | #90625 |
In article <andreas-D7EF22.06485201042016@news.individual.de>, Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> wrote: >Salut doctor > >In article <ndk100$f2g$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, > doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > >> In article <dm4tamF4av6U1@mid.individual.net>, >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >On 2016-03-31, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: >> >> In article <mev94303y-0056EC.22272230032016@news.individual.net>, >> >> Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <ndha1k$pg5$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, >> >>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I got the memory chips out. >> >>>> >> >>>> I got 2 Zeppelin 2G/1333/1288UL Memory chips out of that system. >> >>>> >> >>>> All right what the hell are they? >> >>> >> >>>I guess Google is broken on your side of the pond. Pity. >> >> >> >> Well I have no time with no-name products. >> >> >> >> Personally I prefer Kingston memory products. >> >> >> >> I had to settle with Corsair though :-( >> > >> >*WHOOSH* >> > >> >I'll spell it out just for you: the reason you aren't getting much help >> >with this is you have provided the bare minimum of information in your >> >questions. Garbage in, garbage out. Nobody wants to hold your hand and >> >pull your teeth just to help you out. Show that you have put some effort >> >into it and you will find others more willing to help. >> > >> >> Well someone did suggest replacing the non-standard memory. > >hm, never heard of Zeppelin RAM in my career... >Searching for them, there is 1 seller in the UK and some more in eastern >eurotean countries. > >Maybe you could tell us, what sort of portable Mac is crashing? >The Model Identifier from System Profiler could be a start. > >Cheers >Andreas > Already fixed with Mac Compliant memory from Corsair ( I prefer Kingston myself) >-- >MacAndreas Rutishauser, <http://www.MacAndreas.ch> >EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk >Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung ><mailto:andreas@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47 -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Manitoba and Saskatchewan! Save your provinces in April! Vote Liberal!!
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 17:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dlvtmtFpshpU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90483 |
On 2016-03-29, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote: > Here is one. > > A mac that crashes regularly Crashes how exactly? Is it reproducible due to certain actions? You've given almost no details at all. > and > > a possible memory chip incompatibilty. On what information are you basing this possible memory chip incompatibility? Again, details please. > What should I look for? Depends on the nature of the crashes - see above. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 12:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ndemf1$r88$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90483 |
In article <nde8ii$oin$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: > Here is one. > > A mac that crashes regularly > > and > > a possible memory chip incompatibilty. > > What should I look for? A clue might be a start. Essentially, you've just stepped out into the parking lot of a greyhound station in Toledo and yelled "Why doesn't my car start?" at the top of your lungs. With your car parked in Sacramento. Do you actually think you're going to get a useful answer? -- Brought to you by the letter Q and the number .357 Fan of Horace S. and Dan W.
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