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  How the Government PWND  Apple Walter Myer <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 18:08 -0700
    Re: How the Government PWND Apple Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-28 19:05 -0700
      Re: How the Government PWND Apple Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-03-29 07:24 -0400
        Re: How the Government PWND Apple FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 07:42 -0400
          Re: How the Government PWND Apple Walter Myer <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 05:18 -0700
            Re: How the Government PWND Apple Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-29 09:02 -0700
              Re: How the Government PWND Apple Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-29 17:46 +0000
          Re: How the Government PWND Apple Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-03-29 09:24 -0400
            Re: How the Government PWND Apple Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-29 14:45 +0000
            Re: How the Government PWND Apple Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-29 17:47 +0000
              Re: How the Government PWND Apple FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 23:40 -0400
            Re: How the Government PWND Apple nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-29 14:53 -0400
              Re: How the Government PWND Apple Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: How the Government PWND Apple nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-29 15:38 -0400
                  Re: How the Government PWND Apple Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-29 13:00 -0700
                  Re: How the Government PWND Apple FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 23:42 -0400
            Re: How the Government PWND Apple FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 23:39 -0400
              Re: How the Government PWND Apple "Popkin" <Popkin@telus.net> - 2016-03-30 12:15 -0400
                Re: How the Government PWND Apple Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-03-31 15:47 -0400
                  Re: How the Government PWND Apple FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 20:47 -0400
                    Re: How the Government PWND Apple Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 20:50 -0700
                      Re: How the Government PWND Apple Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-04-01 08:26 -0400
                        Re: How the Government PWND Apple Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-01 06:46 -0700
          Re: How the Government PWND Apple Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-03-29 09:02 -0700
        Re: How the Government PWND Apple "Popkin" <Popkin@telus.net> - 2016-03-29 09:22 -0400

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#90459 — How the Government PWND Apple

BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!



"Apple was surprised about last week's filing to vacate the hearing, but vowed that if the case progressed, it would seek information about the party and the method used to hack into the iPhone. Now that the Justice Department has backed out, it can't file for information about the researcher or the method used. According to the Guardian, the government has deemed the exploit classified."

http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/28/apple-s-encryption-battle-with-the-fbi-is-over-for-now/

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#90461 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-28 6:08 PM, Walter Myer wrote:
> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>
>
>
> "Apple was surprised about last week's filing to vacate the hearing, but vowed that if the case progressed, it would seek information about the party and the method used to hack into the iPhone. Now that the Justice Department has backed out, it can't file for information about the researcher or the method used. According to the Guardian, the government has deemed the exploit classified."
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/28/apple-s-encryption-battle-with-the-fbi-is-over-for-now/
>

Better than the government "pwning" you by demanding Apple destroy your 
privacy...

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#90472 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:05:25 -0400, Alan Baker wrote
(in article <ndcnt6$utr$1@news.datemas.de>):

> On 2016-03-28 6:08 PM, Walter Myer wrote:
>> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Apple was surprised about last week's filing to vacate the hearing, but 
>> vowed that if the case progressed, it would seek information about the 
>> party and the method used to hack into the iPhone. Now that the Justice 
>> Department has backed out, it can't file for information about the 
>> researcher or the method used. According to the Guardian, the government 
>> has deemed the exploit classified."
>> 
>> http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/28/apple-s-encryption-battle-with-the-fbi-is
>> -over-for-now/
>> 
> 
> Better than the government "pwning" you by demanding Apple destroy your 
> privacy...

What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can 
other malplayers.

-- 
Nelson

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#90473 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 11:24:22 +0000, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> said:

> On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:05:25 -0400, Alan Baker wrote
> (in article <ndcnt6$utr$1@news.datemas.de>):
> 
>> On 2016-03-28 6:08 PM, Walter Myer wrote:
>>> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Apple was surprised about last week's filing to vacate the hearing, but
>>> vowed that if the case progressed, it would seek information about the
>>> party and the method used to hack into the iPhone. Now that the Justice
>>> Department has backed out, it can't file for information about the
>>> researcher or the method used. According to the Guardian, the government
>>> has deemed the exploit classified."
>>> 
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/28/apple-s-encryption-battle-with-the-fbi-is
>>> -over-for-now/
>>> 
>> 
>> Better than the government "pwning" you by demanding Apple destroy your
>> privacy...
> 
> What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
> other malplayers.

I think the operative word there is "if"...

Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government 
magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.

If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
-- 
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night. -S Martin

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#90474 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 7:42:19 AM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> On 2016-03-29 11:24:22 +0000, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> said:
> 
> > On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:05:25 -0400, Alan Baker wrote
> > (in article <ndcnt6$utr$1@news.datemas.de>):
> > 
> >> On 2016-03-28 6:08 PM, Walter Myer wrote:
> >>> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> "Apple was surprised about last week's filing to vacate the hearing, but
> >>> vowed that if the case progressed, it would seek information about the
> >>> party and the method used to hack into the iPhone. Now that the Justice
> >>> Department has backed out, it can't file for information about the
> >>> researcher or the method used. According to the Guardian, the government
> >>> has deemed the exploit classified."
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/28/apple-s-encryption-battle-with-the-fbi-is
> >>> -over-for-now/
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Better than the government "pwning" you by demanding Apple destroy your
> >> privacy...
> > 
> > What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
> > other malplayers.
> 
> I think the operative word there is "if"...

The article doesn't say that.  It's a done deal.  The Israelis did it.


> 
> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government 
> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.

There's a commie hiding under every mushroom.


> 
> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.


Hmmm, today you're a seer!!!



snip drivel

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#90485 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 5:18 AM, Walter Myer wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 7:42:19 AM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
>> On 2016-03-29 11:24:22 +0000, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> said:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:05:25 -0400, Alan Baker wrote
>>> (in article <ndcnt6$utr$1@news.datemas.de>):
>>>
>>>> On 2016-03-28 6:08 PM, Walter Myer wrote:
>>>>> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apple was surprised about last week's filing to vacate the hearing, but
>>>>> vowed that if the case progressed, it would seek information about the
>>>>> party and the method used to hack into the iPhone. Now that the Justice
>>>>> Department has backed out, it can't file for information about the
>>>>> researcher or the method used. According to the Guardian, the government
>>>>> has deemed the exploit classified."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/28/apple-s-encryption-battle-with-the-fbi-is
>>>>> -over-for-now/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Better than the government "pwning" you by demanding Apple destroy your
>>>> privacy...
>>>
>>> What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
>>> other malplayers.
>>
>> I think the operative word there is "if"...
>
> The article doesn't say that.  It's a done deal.  The Israelis did it.

Really? What proof of that have you got?

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#90489 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> On 2016-03-29 5:18 AM, Walter Myer wrote:
>>
>> The article doesn't say that.  It's a done deal.  The Israelis did it.
>
> Really? What proof of that have you got?

Apple haters don't need proof, Alan. Get with the program.

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JR

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#90478 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

Nelson:
> > What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
> > other malplayers.

FPP:
> I think the operative word there is "if"...

> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government 
> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.

> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.

Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#90481 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

In message <290320160924334314%star@sky.net> 
  Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> Nelson:
>> > What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
>> > other malplayers.

> FPP:
>> I think the operative word there is "if"...

>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government 
>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.

>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.

> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
> this is a government hoax or lie?

We know *for* *a* *fact* that the government LEAs have lied to the
American People and their elected representatives repeatedly and
consistently. Anyone who believes the FBI just because they are a
government agency is a delusional fool.

> There was no magic. The FBI has been pursuing other means to penetrate
> that phone at least since Apple balked,

They told the court they had pursued all avenues and there was no
possible way to get into the phone without Apple.

> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.

The Director of the FBI sat in front of Congress and repeated the lie
he'd told the court, that the case was about a single phone. This was a
lie from the beginning and it wasn't until after testifying before
Congress that the FBI admitted there were at least "hundreds" of other
phones.


-- 
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed now.

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#90490 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> Nelson:
>> > What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
>> > other malplayers.
>
> FPP:
>> I think the operative word there is "if"...
>
>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government 
>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
>
>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
>
> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
> balked, probably before that.

Then they lied about that to the court.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#90529 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 17:47:52 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2016-03-29, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>> Nelson:
>>>> What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
>>>> other malplayers.
>> 
>> FPP:
>>> I think the operative word there is "if"...
>> 
>>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
>>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
>> 
>>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
>> 
>> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
>> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
>> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
>> balked, probably before that.
> 
> Then they lied about that to the court.

Bingo!
-- 
A pessimist says the glass is half empty.  An optimist says the glass 
is half full.  An engineer says somebody made the glass twice as big as 
it needed to be.

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#90496 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

In article <290320160924334314%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> 
> > Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government 
> > magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
> 
> > If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
> 
> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.

the fbi claimed that they tried 'everything' and the only way was for
apple to help.

then out of the blue, a solution magically appeared just hours before
the hearing. 

that means that fbi clearly did *not* try everything, and when grilled
at the hearing, james comey even said he hadn't actually tried
everything, thereby contradicting his own testimony.

what really happened was that the fbi realized their legal arguments
were very weak and that they'd lose, which would set a precedent
*opposite* to what they wanted. they *had* to back down.

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#90497 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 11:53 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article <290320160924334314%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
>>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
>>
>>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
>>
>> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
>> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
>> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
>> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
>> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
>> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.
>
> the fbi claimed that they tried 'everything' and the only way was for
> apple to help.

They also claimed that this was not about setting precedent...

...and then suddenly it WAS! :-)

>
> then out of the blue, a solution magically appeared just hours before
> the hearing.

Amazing, huh?

>
> that means that fbi clearly did *not* try everything, and when grilled
> at the hearing, james comey even said he hadn't actually tried
> everything, thereby contradicting his own testimony.
>
> what really happened was that the fbi realized their legal arguments
> were very weak and that they'd lose, which would set a precedent
> *opposite* to what they wanted. they *had* to back down.

Yup. I have a lot of doubt that they've actually found anything.

:-)

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#90501 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

In article <ndej4b$bi3$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
<alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> >>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
> >>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
> >>
> >>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
> >>
> >> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
> >> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
> >> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
> >> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
> >> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
> >> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.
> >
> > the fbi claimed that they tried 'everything' and the only way was for
> > apple to help.
> 
> They also claimed that this was not about setting precedent...
> 
> ...and then suddenly it WAS! :-)
>
> > then out of the blue, a solution magically appeared just hours before
> > the hearing.
> 
> Amazing, huh?
> 
> >
> > that means that fbi clearly did *not* try everything, and when grilled
> > at the hearing, james comey even said he hadn't actually tried
> > everything, thereby contradicting his own testimony.
> >
> > what really happened was that the fbi realized their legal arguments
> > were very weak and that they'd lose, which would set a precedent
> > *opposite* to what they wanted. they *had* to back down.
> 
> Yup. I have a lot of doubt that they've actually found anything.
> 
> :-)

nothing other than cat videos :)

what people keep forgetting is that this was his *work* phone.

he *destroyed* his and his wife's personal phones and the hard drive in
his computer. that's where the good shit was. 

he *left* the work phone untouched. why would he do that if there was
something to hide??

not only that but the fbi *has* the icloud backups for the work phone,
so they know exactly what's on it. it's just not as recent as they
would like.

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#90504 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 12:38 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <ndej4b$bi3$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
>>>>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
>>>>
>>>>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
>>>>
>>>> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
>>>> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
>>>> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
>>>> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
>>>> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
>>>> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.
>>>
>>> the fbi claimed that they tried 'everything' and the only way was for
>>> apple to help.
>>
>> They also claimed that this was not about setting precedent...
>>
>> ...and then suddenly it WAS! :-)
>>
>>> then out of the blue, a solution magically appeared just hours before
>>> the hearing.
>>
>> Amazing, huh?
>>
>>>
>>> that means that fbi clearly did *not* try everything, and when grilled
>>> at the hearing, james comey even said he hadn't actually tried
>>> everything, thereby contradicting his own testimony.
>>>
>>> what really happened was that the fbi realized their legal arguments
>>> were very weak and that they'd lose, which would set a precedent
>>> *opposite* to what they wanted. they *had* to back down.
>>
>> Yup. I have a lot of doubt that they've actually found anything.
>>
>> :-)
>
> nothing other than cat videos :)
>
> what people keep forgetting is that this was his *work* phone.
>
> he *destroyed* his and his wife's personal phones and the hard drive in
> his computer. that's where the good shit was.
>
> he *left* the work phone untouched. why would he do that if there was
> something to hide??
>
> not only that but the fbi *has* the icloud backups for the work phone,
> so they know exactly what's on it. it's just not as recent as they
> would like.
>

And they ordered San Bernardino County to change the iCloud password...

...I think to precipitate the situation where they could pressure Apple.

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#90530 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 19:38:25 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <ndej4b$bi3$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
>>>>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
>>>> 
>>>>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
>>>> 
>>>> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
>>>> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
>>>> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
>>>> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
>>>> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
>>>> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.
>>> 
>>> the fbi claimed that they tried 'everything' and the only way was for
>>> apple to help.
>> 
>> They also claimed that this was not about setting precedent...
>> 
>> ...and then suddenly it WAS! :-)
>> 
>>> then out of the blue, a solution magically appeared just hours before
>>> the hearing.
>> 
>> Amazing, huh?
>> 
>>> 
>>> that means that fbi clearly did *not* try everything, and when grilled
>>> at the hearing, james comey even said he hadn't actually tried
>>> everything, thereby contradicting his own testimony.
>>> 
>>> what really happened was that the fbi realized their legal arguments
>>> were very weak and that they'd lose, which would set a precedent
>>> *opposite* to what they wanted. they *had* to back down.
>> 
>> Yup. I have a lot of doubt that they've actually found anything.
>> 
>> :-)
> 
> nothing other than cat videos :)
> 
> what people keep forgetting is that this was his *work* phone.
> 
> he *destroyed* his and his wife's personal phones and the hard drive in
> his computer. that's where the good shit was.
> 
> he *left* the work phone untouched. why would he do that if there was
> something to hide??
> 
> not only that but the fbi *has* the icloud backups for the work phone,
> so they know exactly what's on it. it's just not as recent as they
> would like.

And the work phone wasn't even OWNED by them... it belonged to the county.

Why put secret terrorist info on a phone you don't even own, when you 
can put it on phones you do?
-- 
A pessimist says the glass is half empty.  An optimist says the glass 
is half full.  An engineer says somebody made the glass twice as big as 
it needed to be.

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#90528 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-29 13:24:33 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> Nelson:
>>> What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
>>> other malplayers.
> 
> FPP:
>> I think the operative word there is "if"...
> 
>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
> 
>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
> 
> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.

I think the FBI lied.  I think they wanted a way into every phone, and 
were using this case as a vehicle.
It's actually the LEAST conspiratorial read on the situation.

Get a grip?  That's good advice for YOU, my friend.  The government was 
ready to go to the Supreme Court... but, somehow, miraculously found a 
way into the phone the day before the next hearing was to take place.

Bullshit.  They pushed it as far as they could, and cut their losses 
when they knew they'd lose the case - and shut the door forever on that 
avenue.

Nothing conspiratorial about it.  It's the pragmatic interpretation 
based on what actually happened.
-- 
Professionals built the TITANIC.  Amateurs built the ARK.  Idiots believe this.

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#90541 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

"FPP"  wrote in message news:ndfhka$id4$1@dont-email.me...

On 2016-03-29 13:24:33 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> Nelson:
>>> What privacy?  If the government can find someone else to do it, so can
>>> other malplayers.
>
> FPP:
>> I think the operative word there is "if"...
>
>> Funny how right before the hearing was to take place, the government
>> magically found a way to do what they said they couldn't do.
>
>> If you saw this on a TV show, you'd think it was lame.
>
> Are you also into Area 51 "aliens," Roswell, and Bigfoot? Do you think
> this is a government hoax or lie? There was no magic. The FBI has been
> pursuing other means to penetrate that phone at least since Apple
> balked, probably before that. They succeeded with outside help and that
> help did not come from ET or Bigfoot. Try to get a grip on reality.
> Nelson's statement may be taken at face value.

>I think the FBI lied.  I think they wanted a way into every phone, and were 
>using this case as a vehicle.
>It's actually the LEAST conspiratorial read on the situation.

>Get a grip?  That's good advice for YOU, my friend.  The government was 
>ready to go to the Supreme Court... but, somehow, miraculously found a way 
>into the phone the day before the next hearing was to take place.

>Bullshit.  They pushed it as far as they could, and cut their losses when 
>they knew they'd lose the case - and shut the door forever on that avenue.

>Nothing conspiratorial about it.  It's the pragmatic interpretation based 
>on what actually happened.

>snip

You seem upset?  Why?  This in a nutshell is about finding terrorists and 
keeping people safe.  Only idiots would disagree with this.  There will be 
another terrorist attack. 

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#90614 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:15:23 -0400, Popkin wrote
(in article <ndgtso$56j$1@dont-email.me>):

[snip]
 
> There will be another terrorist attack.

Thank you, Nostradamus, for this insightful prediction.  Who would have 
thought it possible?

-- 
Nelson

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#90620 — Re: How the Government PWND Apple

On 2016-03-31 19:47:50 +0000, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> said:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:15:23 -0400, Popkin wrote
> (in article <ndgtso$56j$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> There will be another terrorist attack.
> 
> Thank you, Nostradamus, for this insightful prediction.  Who would have
> thought it possible?

I predict it will also rain somewhere, someday... so we're all doomed.
-- 
Donald Trump names his top Foreign Policy Advisor:
"I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good 
brain, and I've said a lot of things." - Morning Joe (March 16, 2016)

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