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Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level?

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  Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-09-24 17:18 +0000
    Re: Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-24 17:25 +0000
    Re: Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-24 13:29 -0400
    Re: Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-25 09:00 +1200
      Re: Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-09-25 11:49 +1200
        Re: Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-09-26 02:54 +0000

#80495 — Will El Capitan release at the 10.11.2 level?

Since it is only six days till launch, and the beta is at the .1 level, 
would the final release at the .2 level?  Could this mean that Apple 
would go beyond the .5 limit of the past few Operating Systems.  I had 
10.3.9 Panther and of course 10.4.11 Tiger.  

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#80496

On 2015-09-24, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> Since it is only six days till launch, and the beta is at the .1 level, 
> would the final release at the .2 level?  Could this mean that Apple 
> would go beyond the .5 limit of the past few Operating Systems.  I had 
> 10.3.9 Panther and of course 10.4.11 Tiger.  

Why should we care?

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#80497

In article <mu1b8j$fm$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
wrote:

> Since it is only six days till launch, and the beta is at the .1 level, 
> would the final release at the .2 level? 

no

> Could this mean that Apple 
> would go beyond the .5 limit of the past few Operating Systems.  I had 
> 10.3.9 Panther and of course 10.4.11 Tiger.  

who cares.

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#80503

In article <mu1b8j$fm$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
wrote:
> 
> Since it is only six days till launch, and the beta is at the .1 level, 
> would the final release at the .2 level?  Could this mean that Apple 
> would go beyond the .5 limit of the past few Operating Systems.  I had 
> 10.3.9 Panther and of course 10.4.11 Tiger.  

No, El Capitan is almost certainly going to be released as 10.11. Apple
are simply already working on the first bug fix, as they always do,
which will likely be released a few weeks later (as they have just done
with iOS 9).

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#80523

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <mu1b8j$fm$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Since it is only six days till launch, and the beta is at the .1 level,
> > would the final release at the .2 level?  Could this mean that Apple
> > would go beyond the .5 limit of the past few Operating Systems.  I had
> > 10.3.9 Panther and of course 10.4.11 Tiger.  
> 
> No, El Capitan is almost certainly going to be released as 10.11. Apple
> are simply already working on the first bug fix, as they always do,
> which will likely be released a few weeks later (as they have just done
> with iOS 9).

Agreed, with a few additional details:

The "10.11 GM candidate" which was released a couple of weeks ago may be
updated for the public release. If so, it will still be called "10.11"
but with a higher build number. That build might be made available to
developers a few days earlier as a second "GM candidate". That would
probably correspond with a second beta of 10.11.1.

The 10.11.1 update has so far had its first beta, but I expect it will
have more betas over several weeks before 10.11.1 is released.

In the case of iOS 9, we've had the iOS 9 GM and iOS 9.1 first beta on
the same day, then the public release of iOS 9 (which was slightly newer
than the GM), then an iOS 9.0.1 update, which coincided with the second
beta of iOS 9.1. Presumably whatever Apple fixed in 9.0.1 also got fixed
in the second beta of 9.1.

OS X doesn't have a version numbering system which allows the equivalent
of an "iOS 9.0.1" update: "OS X 10.11.1" is a minor update of OS X 10.11
rather than a sub-minor update, therefore is semantically equivalent to
"iOS 9.1".

If there was a need for a quick fix to the public release of OS X 10.11
but 10.11.1 wasn't ready, Apple could release an "OS X 10.11
Supplemental Update", which we've seen before.

If an iOS 9.x.y update is needed for security reasons only, Apple could
release a corresponding OS X "Security Update" for El Capitan, rather
than waiting for the next OS X minor version update.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#80657

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:49:34 +1200, David Empson wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <mu1b8j$fm$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Since it is only six days till launch, and the beta is at the .1
>> > level,
>> > would the final release at the .2 level?  Could this mean that Apple
>> > would go beyond the .5 limit of the past few Operating Systems.  I
>> > had 10.3.9 Panther and of course 10.4.11 Tiger.
>> 
>> No, El Capitan is almost certainly going to be released as 10.11. Apple
>> are simply already working on the first bug fix, as they always do,
>> which will likely be released a few weeks later (as they have just done
>> with iOS 9).
> 
> Agreed, with a few additional details:
> 
> The "10.11 GM candidate" which was released a couple of weeks ago may be
> updated for the public release. If so, it will still be called "10.11"
> but with a higher build number. That build might be made available to
> developers a few days earlier as a second "GM candidate". That would
> probably correspond with a second beta of 10.11.1.
> 
> The 10.11.1 update has so far had its first beta, but I expect it will
> have more betas over several weeks before 10.11.1 is released.
> 
> In the case of iOS 9, we've had the iOS 9 GM and iOS 9.1 first beta on
> the same day, then the public release of iOS 9 (which was slightly newer
> than the GM), then an iOS 9.0.1 update, which coincided with the second
> beta of iOS 9.1. Presumably whatever Apple fixed in 9.0.1 also got fixed
> in the second beta of 9.1.
> 
> OS X doesn't have a version numbering system which allows the equivalent
> of an "iOS 9.0.1" update: "OS X 10.11.1" is a minor update of OS X 10.11
> rather than a sub-minor update, therefore is semantically equivalent to
> "iOS 9.1".
> 
> If there was a need for a quick fix to the public release of OS X 10.11
> but 10.11.1 wasn't ready, Apple could release an "OS X 10.11
> Supplemental Update", which we've seen before.
> 
> If an iOS 9.x.y update is needed for security reasons only, Apple could
> release a corresponding OS X "Security Update" for El Capitan, rather
> than waiting for the next OS X minor version update.

Thank you, David, for your very complete explanation.  I did not know how 
Apple puts out their OS's.

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