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external hd

Started byFrank <gno52@windstream.net>
First post2015-08-15 02:39 -0700
Last post2015-08-17 09:08 -0700
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  external hd Frank <gno52@windstream.net> - 2015-08-15 02:39 -0700
    Re: external hd Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-15 09:48 +0000
    Re: external hd nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-15 11:34 -0400
    Re: external hd Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-15 21:02 -0700
    Re: external hd Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-16 09:32 +0100
      Re: external hd android <here@there.was> - 2015-08-16 10:52 +0200
        Re: external hd Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-16 10:18 +0100
        Re: external hd Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-16 11:40 -0400
          Re: external hd android <here@there.was> - 2015-08-16 18:02 +0200
      Re: external hd dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-17 07:41 +1000
        Re: external hd Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-16 22:39 -0700
          Re: external hd android <here@there.was> - 2015-08-17 07:49 +0200
            Re: external hd Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-17 08:10 -0700
              Re: external hd nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-17 11:14 -0400
    Re: external hd Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-08-17 09:08 -0700

#78598 — external hd

FromFrank <gno52@windstream.net>
Date2015-08-15 02:39 -0700
Subjectexternal hd
Message-ID<2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>
Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer? I am considering a new iMac with fusion hd and rather than partition it to hold a couple of Windows apps and a small amount of data it would seem simpler to get an external hard drive to plug in only when needed.

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#78599

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-08-15 09:48 +0000
Message-ID<d38g6oFgvolU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78598
On 2015-08-15, Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:

> Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer? I am
> considering a new iMac with fusion hd and rather than partition it to
> hold a couple of Windows apps and a small amount of data it would seem
> simpler to get an external hard drive to plug in only when needed.

In theory, yes, but it's much easier and more convenient to run a virtual
machine of some kind. I run VirtualBox on my Macbook Air.



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#78603

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-15 11:34 -0400
Message-ID<150820151134045719%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#78598
In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:

> Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?

that makes no sense.

> I am considering a
> new iMac with fusion hd and rather than partition it to hold a couple of
> Windows apps and a small amount of data it would seem simpler to get an
> external hard drive to plug in only when needed.

of course you can plug in an external hard drive when needed or use it
all the time if you prefer.

you can have as many external hard drives as you want and can afford
and have ports to connect (including usb hubs).

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#78606

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-08-15 21:02 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-603E3F.21022215082015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#78598
In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
 Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:

> Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer? I am considering a 
> new iMac with fusion hd and rather than partition it to hold a couple of 
> Windows apps and a small amount of data it would seem simpler to get an 
> external hard drive to plug in only when needed.

I'm not clear on what you're trying to do.  But I'm guessing that you 
want to boot another OS with Bootcamp and use the external for that.  
I'm not sure the boot code will allow that so someone else will have to 
chime in.  According to this article, you must use a partition on your 
existing hard drive to run bootcamp.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5431182

Worst case, you're might be better off installing VMware Fusion and 
running that.  It will boot off your Bootcamp partition.

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#78607

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2015-08-16 09:32 +0100
Message-ID<160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#78598
In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:

>Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?

This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
not a computer.

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#78608

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2015-08-16 10:52 +0200
Message-ID<d3b19sF5u3fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78607
In article <160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
> Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
> 
> This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
> not a computer.

Totally true. However, a NAS featuring Linux can be used as a headless 
box.
-- 
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#78609

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2015-08-16 10:18 +0100
Message-ID<160820151018533875%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#78608
In article <d3b19sF5u3fU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was>
wrote:

>In article <160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
>> Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
>> 
>> This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
>> not a computer.
>
>Totally true. However, a NAS featuring Linux can be used as a headless 
>box.

Yes. I've got an old Mac Mini running Snow Leopard as a server with 2 x
3TB drives on it.

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#78610

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2015-08-16 11:40 -0400
Message-ID<160820151140217080%star@sky.net>
In reply to#78608
Frank:
> > >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?

Tim Streater:
> > This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
> > not a computer.

android:
> Totally true. However, a NAS featuring Linux can be used as a headless 
> box.

Do you seriously think that the man is looking for a Linux NAS solution
on CSMS? I don't know how you fell out of my kill-file, you silly ass,
but back in you go!

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#78611

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2015-08-16 18:02 +0200
Message-ID<d3bqg2Fca4hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78610
Davoud <star@sky.net> Wrote in message:
> Frank:
>> > >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
> 
> Tim Streater:
>> > This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
>> > not a computer.
> 
> android:
>> Totally true. However, a NAS featuring Linux can be used as a headless 
>> box.
> 
> Do you seriously think that the man is looking for a Linux NAS solution
> on CSMS? I don't know how you fell out of my kill-file, you silly ass,
> but back in you go!
> 
Have another cup... ;-p
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#78613

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-08-17 07:41 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-B9E088.07414817082015@aioe.org>
In reply to#78607
In article <160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
> Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
> 
> This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
> not a computer.

Sometimes, when I am travelling but still need to satisfy a few 
clients' needs, if I have access to a Mac (not mine) that will run SL, 
I take a bootable copy of my main working Mac HD, a portable one that 
runs off the USB power alone. Got me out of trouble a few times. 
Recently, I used a MB and had to use its built in trackpad, managed to 
do some graphic work on it (with a little difficulty), must remember 
to take a small mouse next time!

-- 
dorayme

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#78620

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-08-16 22:39 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-D4A10E.22395416082015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#78613
In article <do_ray_me-B9E088.07414817082015@aioe.org>,
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
> > Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:
> > 
> > >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
> > 
> > This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
> > not a computer.
> 
> Sometimes, when I am travelling but still need to satisfy a few 
> clients' needs, if I have access to a Mac (not mine) that will run SL, 
> I take a bootable copy of my main working Mac HD, a portable one that 
> runs off the USB power alone. Got me out of trouble a few times. 
> Recently, I used a MB and had to use its built in trackpad, managed to 
> do some graphic work on it (with a little difficulty), must remember 
> to take a small mouse next time!

Yes, but the OP wants to do this with BootCamp.

From what I've read, that's not supported.  He has to partition his 
system disk to run a BootCamp partition and the MacOS partition.  Won't 
work on an external disk.

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#78621

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2015-08-17 07:49 +0200
Message-ID<d3davmFnm1oU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78620
In article <vilain-D4A10E.22395416082015@news.individual.net>,
 Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-B9E088.07414817082015@aioe.org>,
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
> > > Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
> > > 
> > > This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
> > > not a computer.
> > 
> > Sometimes, when I am travelling but still need to satisfy a few 
> > clients' needs, if I have access to a Mac (not mine) that will run SL, 
> > I take a bootable copy of my main working Mac HD, a portable one that 
> > runs off the USB power alone. Got me out of trouble a few times. 
> > Recently, I used a MB and had to use its built in trackpad, managed to 
> > do some graphic work on it (with a little difficulty), must remember 
> > to take a small mouse next time!
> 
> Yes, but the OP wants to do this with BootCamp.
> 
> From what I've read, that's not supported.  He has to partition his 
> system disk to run a BootCamp partition and the MacOS partition.  Won't 
> work on an external disk.

Just curious and showing me ignorance: Can't he install Windows with 
Bootcamp and clone it over to an external HD and then erase the original 
Win partition and start windows from the ordinary boot selector, you 
know with the "alt" thingy?
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#78628

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-08-17 08:10 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-61344A.08101317082015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#78621
In article <d3davmFnm1oU1@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was> 
wrote:

> In article <vilain-D4A10E.22395416082015@news.individual.net>,
>  Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <do_ray_me-B9E088.07414817082015@aioe.org>,
> >  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <160820150932145961%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> > >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <2a674697-3c1f-46db-8bc0-db9e561c970d@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Frank <gno52@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer?
> > > > 
> > > > This question makes no sense. An hd, whether external or not, is an hd,
> > > > not a computer.
> > > 
> > > Sometimes, when I am travelling but still need to satisfy a few 
> > > clients' needs, if I have access to a Mac (not mine) that will run SL, 
> > > I take a bootable copy of my main working Mac HD, a portable one that 
> > > runs off the USB power alone. Got me out of trouble a few times. 
> > > Recently, I used a MB and had to use its built in trackpad, managed to 
> > > do some graphic work on it (with a little difficulty), must remember 
> > > to take a small mouse next time!
> > 
> > Yes, but the OP wants to do this with BootCamp.
> > 
> > From what I've read, that's not supported.  He has to partition his 
> > system disk to run a BootCamp partition and the MacOS partition.  Won't 
> > work on an external disk.
> 
> Just curious and showing me ignorance: Can't he install Windows with 
> Bootcamp and clone it over to an external HD and then erase the original 
> Win partition and start windows from the ordinary boot selector, you 
> know with the "alt" thingy?

Yes he can do that, but the bootstrap code when you press Option R on 
boot won't recognize the non-MacOS partition on the external disk, 
supposedly.

So, yes, he can do that but the Mac won't boot from it.  Same for PPC 
systems booting from USB Thumb drives.  Intel was fine, but not PPC.

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#78630

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-17 11:14 -0400
Message-ID<170820151114463862%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#78628
In article <vilain-61344A.08101317082015@news.individual.net>, Michael
Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> > Just curious and showing me ignorance: Can't he install Windows with 
> > Bootcamp and clone it over to an external HD and then erase the original 
> > Win partition and start windows from the ordinary boot selector, you 
> > know with the "alt" thingy?
> 
> Yes he can do that, but the bootstrap code when you press Option R on 
> boot won't recognize the non-MacOS partition on the external disk, 
> supposedly.

it's a windows limitation, not anything in the mac.

> So, yes, he can do that but the Mac won't boot from it.  Same for PPC 
> systems booting from USB Thumb drives.  Intel was fine, but not PPC.

that was possible with a lot of effort.

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#78631

FromAlan Baker <email@domain.com>
Date2015-08-17 09:08 -0700
Message-ID<mqt0tt$hut$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#78598
On 2015-08-15 09:39:54 +0000, Frank said:

> Is it feasible to use an external hd as a second computer? I am 
> considering a new iMac with fusion hd and rather than partition it to 
> hold a couple of Windows apps and a small amount of data it would seem 
> simpler to get an external hard drive to plug in only when needed.

I'm with "Huge" on this:

Get some virtual machine software rather than run from an external.

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