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  MB Pro Battery Failure Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-29 12:11 -0400
    Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-29 17:08 +0000
    Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-29 18:32 -0400
      Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-29 21:22 -0400
        Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-29 19:49 -0700
        Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-07-30 10:14 -0400
          Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-30 09:11 -0700
            Re: MB Pro Battery Failure nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-30 12:17 -0400
          Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-07-31 00:17 +0000
    Re: MB Pro Battery Failure David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2015-07-29 22:19 -0700
      Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-30 09:34 -0400
        Re: MB Pro Battery Failure nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-30 09:37 -0400
        Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 12:24 -0400
          Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-07-30 19:20 -0400
            Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:53 -0400
              Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-07-31 23:48 +0000
        Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 12:59 -0400
    Re: MB Pro Battery Failure Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-07-30 08:06 -0400

#78184 — MB Pro Battery Failure

My "17-inch, Early 2008" model. This laptop is important to me because
it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
transferred to a new machine. A while back I gave this machine a new
lease on life with a terabyte SSD that made it feel like a new machine
again.

Suddenly, a few days ago, the click-pad (separate from the track pad)
could not be depressed. I understood immediately that the battery must
have swollen and was pushing upward against the click-pad. In fact,
when I removed the battery it popped open
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/19496710643/>. Luckily, I
discovered the problem immediately, before it spewed fuming nitric acid
or GMO wheat or whatever it is all over the place!

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#78185

On 2015-07-29, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> My "17-inch, Early 2008" model. This laptop is important to me because
> it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
> and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
> transferred to a new machine. A while back I gave this machine a new
> lease on life with a terabyte SSD that made it feel like a new machine
> again.
>
> Suddenly, a few days ago, the click-pad (separate from the track pad)
> could not be depressed. I understood immediately that the battery must
> have swollen and was pushing upward against the click-pad. In fact,
> when I removed the battery it popped open
><https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/19496710643/>. Luckily, I
> discovered the problem immediately, before it spewed fuming nitric acid
> or GMO wheat or whatever it is all over the place!

Seven years. Not bad.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#78189

On 7/29/15 12:11 PM, Davoud wrote:
> My "17-inch, Early 2008" model. This laptop is important to me because
> it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
> and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
> transferred to a new machine. A while back I gave this machine a new
> lease on life with a terabyte SSD that made it feel like a new machine
> again.
>
> Suddenly, a few days ago, the click-pad (separate from the track pad)
> could not be depressed. I understood immediately that the battery must
> have swollen and was pushing upward against the click-pad. In fact,
> when I removed the battery it popped open
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/19496710643/>. Luckily, I
> discovered the problem immediately, before it spewed fuming nitric acid
> or GMO wheat or whatever it is all over the place!
>

This would be Plan C or maybe Plan D, but if it all goes south, pull the 
HD, stick it in an external USB housing, then jack it into your new 
computer when you want to run that program.

-- 
The lion may be King of the Jungle, but airdrop him into Antarctica and 
he’s just a penguin’s bitch.
			- Capt. James Pickett

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#78190

In article <mpbka4$sub$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
<apache@scalpem.net> wrote:

Davoud:
> > ...This laptop is important to me because
> > it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
> > and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
> > transferred to a new machine...

> This would be Plan C or maybe Plan D, but if it all goes south, pull the 
> HD, stick it in an external USB housing, then jack it into your new 
> computer when you want to run that program.

Nope. The developer was onto that old trick. The software license is
tied to something or other in the computer's hardware. It cannot be
made to run on a machine other than the one on which it was registered
after installation. And it had to be registered or it wouldn't run.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#78192

In article <290720152122042976%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> > > ...This laptop is important to me because
> > > it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
> > > and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
> > > transferred to a new machine...
> 
> > This would be Plan C or maybe Plan D, but if it all goes south, pull the 
> > HD, stick it in an external USB housing, then jack it into your new 
> > computer when you want to run that program.
> 
> Nope. The developer was onto that old trick. The software license is
> tied to something or other in the computer's hardware. It cannot be
> made to run on a machine other than the one on which it was registered
> after installation. And it had to be registered or it wouldn't run.

What would happen if you had to replace the mother board?

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#78211

On 7/29/15 9:22 PM, Davoud wrote:
> In article <mpbka4$sub$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>
> Davoud:
>>> ...This laptop is important to me because
>>> it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
>>> and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
>>> transferred to a new machine...
>
>> This would be Plan C or maybe Plan D, but if it all goes south, pull the
>> HD, stick it in an external USB housing, then jack it into your new
>> computer when you want to run that program.
>
> Nope. The developer was onto that old trick. The software license is
> tied to something or other in the computer's hardware. It cannot be
> made to run on a machine other than the one on which it was registered
> after installation. And it had to be registered or it wouldn't run.
>

I remember those days from the 80's...

-- 
I think of myself as a man's man. I like my whiskey neat, my steaks 
rare, and my Pop-Tarts untoasted.
						- @patsajak

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#78215

On 2015-07-30 14:14:33 +0000, Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> said:

> On 7/29/15 9:22 PM, Davoud wrote:
>> In article <mpbka4$sub$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
>> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Davoud:
>>>> ...This laptop is important to me because
>>>> it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
>>>> and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
>>>> transferred to a new machine...
>> 
>>> This would be Plan C or maybe Plan D, but if it all goes south, pull the
>>> HD, stick it in an external USB housing, then jack it into your new
>>> computer when you want to run that program.
>> 
>> Nope. The developer was onto that old trick. The software license is
>> tied to something or other in the computer's hardware. It cannot be
>> made to run on a machine other than the one on which it was registered
>> after installation. And it had to be registered or it wouldn't run.
>> 
> 
> I remember those days from the 80's...

Damn! I can think of some software back in the 80's which needed a 
dongle plugged into the computer to run. No dongle, no software.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#78216

In article <2015073009114760808-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> >> Nope. The developer was onto that old trick. The software license is
> >> tied to something or other in the computer's hardware. It cannot be
> >> made to run on a machine other than the one on which it was registered
> >> after installation. And it had to be registered or it wouldn't run.
> >> 
> > 
> > I remember those days from the 80's...
> 
> Damn! I can think of some software back in the 80's which needed a 
> dongle plugged into the computer to run. No dongle, no software.

but at least the dongle could be moved to another computer.

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#78231

In message <mpdbga$9k5$1@news.albasani.net> 
  Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
> On 7/29/15 9:22 PM, Davoud wrote:
>> In article <mpbka4$sub$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine
>> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote:
>>
>> Davoud:
>>>> ...This laptop is important to me because
>>>> it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
>>>> and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
>>>> transferred to a new machine...
>>
>>> This would be Plan C or maybe Plan D, but if it all goes south, pull the
>>> HD, stick it in an external USB housing, then jack it into your new
>>> computer when you want to run that program.
>>
>> Nope. The developer was onto that old trick. The software license is
>> tied to something or other in the computer's hardware. It cannot be
>> made to run on a machine other than the one on which it was registered
>> after installation. And it had to be registered or it wouldn't run.

Oh, I'm sure it can be MADE to run on some other machine.

> I remember those days from the 80's...

I suspect the license copy protection bullshit is looking at the MAC
address, and that's the easiest unique thing most programs can get to.

I bet there's a crack out there somewhere.

-- 
Oh look, good intentions!

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#78194

In article <290720151211192722%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> This laptop is important to me because it contains a piece of astronomy
> software that is no longer available and that the a-hole developer who
> sold it does not allow it to be transferred to a new machine.

Ask the developer whether he or she would be willing to authorize the 
old software to run on a new machine if you paid him the original 
purchase price once more. But a really stupid person would of course say 
no to that, too.

-- 
David Ryeburn
david_ryeburn@telus.netz
To send e-mail, change "netz" to "net"

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#78207

Davoud:
> > This laptop is important to me because it contains a piece of astronomy
> > software that is no longer available and that the a-hole developer who
> > sold it does not allow it to be transferred to a new machine.

David Ryeburn:
> Ask the developer whether he or she would be willing to authorize the 
> old software to run on a new machine if you paid him the original 
> purchase price once more. But a really stupid person would of course say 
> no to that, too.

No doing. I said he is an a-hole, right? No transfers, not available
for purchase anymore. When the machine goes (mine lives on) the
software is gone as well.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#78208

In article <300720150934524150%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> > Ask the developer whether he or she would be willing to authorize the 
> > old software to run on a new machine if you paid him the original 
> > purchase price once more. But a really stupid person would of course say 
> > no to that, too.
> 
> No doing. I said he is an a-hole, right? No transfers, not available
> for purchase anymore. When the machine goes (mine lives on) the
> software is gone as well.

you are certainly not the first person who might need to change
computers, so maybe someone figured out a way to patch it.

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#78217

In article <300720150934524150%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Davoud:
> > > This laptop is important to me because it contains a piece of astronomy
> > > software that is no longer available and that the a-hole developer who
> > > sold it does not allow it to be transferred to a new machine.
> 
> David Ryeburn:
> > Ask the developer whether he or she would be willing to authorize the 
> > old software to run on a new machine if you paid him the original 
> > purchase price once more. But a really stupid person would of course say 
> > no to that, too.
> 
> No doing. I said he is an a-hole, right? No transfers, not available
> for purchase anymore. When the machine goes (mine lives on) the
> software is gone as well.

Good lord. What is this marvellous piece of software? There must be 
stuff that's just as good. I've seen something called Starry Night.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#78230

Davoud:
> > > > This laptop is important to me because it contains a piece of astronomy
> > > > software that is no longer available and that the a-hole developer who
> > > > sold it does not allow it to be transferred to a new machine.

Warren Oates:
> Good lord. What is this marvellous piece of software? There must be 
> stuff that's just as good. I've seen something called Starry Night.

Ah, yes, planetarium/telescope control software. There is a ton of good
stuff for the Mac. I use TheSkyX Professional, which is arguably the
best of the best, popular with amateurs and big-time observatories as
well. Control of robotic mounts, astronomical CCD cameras, robotic
focusers, etc.

But I'm talking control of a scientific imaging camera for Solar-System
imaging. You could think of my camera, a Point Grey Grasshopper, as a
$3000 webcam.

The software to which I refer is the best for any platform. Camera
control, capture, and automated processing.

In planetary photography about 90% of the frames will be unusable due
to atmospheric turbulence. So you capture video, maybe 1,000 frames.
The software chooses the sharp ones and aligns and stacks them into a
sharp image.

There's much more to it than that, but you don't want to read a 50-page
treatise.

The second, third, and fourth best software is Windows-only. Even the
second best is much more difficult to use than the Mac application that
I use.

See my astrophotography at <http://www.primordial-light.com>.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#78238

In article <300720151920327980%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> But I'm talking control of a scientific imaging camera for Solar-System
> imaging. You could think of my camera, a Point Grey Grasshopper, as a
> $3000 webcam.

Ah. Canadian company. Point Grey is the point of land in western 
Vancouver where UBC is located. I lived there in the 60s.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#78263

In message <55bb61b0$0$44415$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <300720151920327980%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:

>> But I'm talking control of a scientific imaging camera for Solar-System
>> imaging. You could think of my camera, a Point Grey Grasshopper, as a
>> $3000 webcam.

> Ah. Canadian company. Point Grey is the point of land in western 
> Vancouver where UBC is located. I lived there in the 60s.

I was there in June. It was very pleasant. We drove down one street on
our way out of Point Grey that was a tunnel under very tall trees that
covered the entire road for many blocks. When we went back a couple of
days later, we couldn't find that street for some reason.

-- 
The older you get the more you need the people you knew when you were
young.

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#78218

On 2015-07-30 09:34, Davoud wrote:
> Davoud:
>>> This laptop is important to me because it contains a piece of astronomy
>>> software that is no longer available and that the a-hole developer who
>>> sold it does not allow it to be transferred to a new machine.
>
> David Ryeburn:
>> Ask the developer whether he or she would be willing to authorize the
>> old software to run on a new machine if you paid him the original
>> purchase price once more. But a really stupid person would of course say
>> no to that, too.
>
> No doing. I said he is an a-hole, right? No transfers, not available
> for purchase anymore. When the machine goes (mine lives on) the
> software is gone as well.

Tried Stellarium?  Free for Mac (and Windows and Linux)

http://www.stellarium.org/en_CA/

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#78203

On 2015-07-29 12:11, Davoud wrote:
> My "17-inch, Early 2008" model. This laptop is important to me because
> it contains a piece of astronomy software that is no longer available
> and that the a-hole developer who sold it does not allow it to be
> transferred to a new machine. A while back I gave this machine a new
> lease on life with a terabyte SSD that made it feel like a new machine
> again.
>
> Suddenly, a few days ago, the click-pad (separate from the track pad)
> could not be depressed. I understood immediately that the battery must
> have swollen and was pushing upward against the click-pad. In fact,
> when I removed the battery it popped open
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/19496710643/>. Luckily, I
> discovered the problem immediately, before it spewed fuming nitric acid
> or GMO wheat or whatever it is all over the place!


At least yours works.  My SO's MBA (2008) has gone TU (memory). 
Re-flowed the solder ($180) and it worked for about 6 weeks.  The co. 
that re-flowed refuse to do it again (but re-reimbursed most ($140) of 
the fee).

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