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A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X?

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#63340 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2014-08-17 21:49 +0000
Subject	Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? Disk Repair failed to repair it.
Message-ID	<c5cmalF4c1jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#63332

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On 2014-08-17, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
> Also, I tried
> http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/item/seagate-diag-mac-master/
> but it didn't work in Mac OS X 10.5.8 (doesn't see the drive at all).
> I noticed the web page says 10.4.11.x. That's pretty old. I guess it
> is incompatible? How do I could not find a way to remove the software
> beside throwing its .app into trash can, and it added something to
> cause a reboot to update its cache. :(

If you want to see the files that a given Mac installer places onto your
system, simply run the installer (or in this case, the PKG file), and
choose File > Show Files from the installer menu bar.

Alternatively, you can use the 'lsbom' command-line tool to see the same
list of files (as shown below). 

Note that the listing you get shows files included in the installer
package, and won't mention any files that are created by installer
scripts in the package. Also, installer scripts may move some of the
files into different file system locations after the files are extracted
(in this case, the kernel extension (kext) is apparently moved into
/System/Library/Extensions by an installer script). That being said, in
general, the most important files are listed, which is sufficient for
the purposes of uninstalling manually.

Here's what I get for this particular installer package (I have omitted
the contents of the app and kext directories for brevity):

# lsbom -s Seagate\ Diagnostics.pkg/Contents/Archive.bom 

./Applications/Seagate Diagnostics.app
./System/Library/Extensions
./tmp/drvrInstall/MaxtorPowSecDriver.kext
./tmp/drvrInstall/SeagatePowSecDriver.kext

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#63280

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2014-08-16 20:29 -0400
Message-ID	<160820142029151245%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#63278

In article <lsKdnc8t-dbsbXLOnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I used to use old SMARTreporter in Mac OS X 10.5.8, but it is not 
> freeware anymore for v3.x. I am trying to find a replacement for Mac OS 
> X 10.8.5.
> 
> Currently, I am trying to figure out if this old external USB2 Seagate 
> 500 GB HDD is going bad since it failed to mount its MacFS partition 
> drive (FAT32 partition drive mounted fine). I am currently running Mac 
> OS X 10.8.5's Disk Utility to repair it, and it is taking forever 
> (wished it had technical texts or something to tell me what is going 
> on). That doesn't sound good so far. :(

unless you need the data, reformat it. 

if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.

as for smart, that won't work over usb unless the usb enclosure
supports it which is not that common and non-standard.

apple's disk utility will show the smart status of supported drives, as
in internal.

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#63282

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2014-08-16 17:36 -0700
Message-ID	<du-dne1Gwr6eZHLOnZ2dnUVZ_qkAAAAA@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63280

On 8/16/2014 5:29 PM PT, nospam typed:

> unless you need the data, reformat it.

Yeah, I had to do that and it is only for Time Machine's back ups. :(


> if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.

Is there a freeware type like DiskWarrior?


> as for smart, that won't work over usb unless the usb enclosure
> supports it which is not that common and non-standard.
>
> apple's disk utility will show the smart status of supported drives, as
> in internal.

Bummer. :(
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ants, trying to figure out which ones were good, and which ones were 
bad, but they all just looked like ants, so I started smiting all of 
them." "Well that's not --" "I was smiting them with the garden hose, 
and with lighter fluid, and with the lawnmower, and to be perfectly 
honest, I think I went a little crazy with the shovel. Those ants could 
have been praying to me all day, I wouldn't have heard them." "There was 
nothing they could do about it." "But, I don't think --" "Really, it's 
the same with us. There's nothing we can do about anything either, so 
why worry about it? Hey, this is making me feel better." "Well, that's 
good, but --" "I guess all we can do is live our lives with as much 
kindness and decency as possible, and try not to dwell on God standing 
over us with a giant shovel."...--Dewey and Teacher in Day Care episode 
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#63283

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2014-08-16 20:43 -0400
Message-ID	<160820142043483629%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#63282

In article <du-dne1Gwr6eZHLOnZ2dnUVZ_qkAAAAA@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.
> 
> Is there a freeware type like DiskWarrior?

if your data is not worth what diskwarrior costs, then just reformat it.

apple disk utility might fix some things but it's nowhere near as
thorough.

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#63288

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2014-08-16 18:41 -0700
Message-ID	<9dOdnSGEGMvclW3OnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63283

On 8/16/2014 5:43 PM PT, nospam typed:

>>> if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.
>>
>> Is there a freeware type like DiskWarrior?
>
> if your data is not worth what diskwarrior costs, then just reformat it.
>
> apple disk utility might fix some things but it's nowhere near as
> thorough.

Aren't there other non-Apple and non-DiskWarrior disk utilities out 
there that are free?
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#63290

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2014-08-16 21:44 -0400
Message-ID	<160820142144030552%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#63288

In article <9dOdnSGEGMvclW3OnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> >>> if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.
> >>
> >> Is there a freeware type like DiskWarrior?
> >
> > if your data is not worth what diskwarrior costs, then just reformat it.
> >
> > apple disk utility might fix some things but it's nowhere near as
> > thorough.
> 
> Aren't there other non-Apple and non-DiskWarrior disk utilities out 
> there that are free?

obviously your data is not valuable.

you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.

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#63292

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2014-08-16 19:02 -0700
Message-ID	<G5WdnQmjGqK6kG3OnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63290

On 8/16/2014 6:44 PM PT, nospam typed:
> you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.

Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P
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#63295

From	Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date	2014-08-16 19:27 -0700
Message-ID	<vilain-2CC13B.19270316082014@news.individual.net>
In reply to	#63292

In article <G5WdnQmjGqK6kG3OnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 8/16/2014 6:44 PM PT, nospam typed:
> > you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.
> 
> Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P

I'm sure someone going to say "use the Cloud", but that's may not solve 
your use-case.  And it's not free but a regular on-going cost.

http://lifehacker.com/five-best-online-backup-services-1006345049

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#63301

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2014-08-16 20:03 -0700
Message-ID	<NI6dnYxqDNwHhm3OnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63295

On 8/16/2014 7:27 PM PT, Michael Vilain typed:

>>> you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.
>>
>> Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P
>
> I'm sure someone going to say "use the Cloud", but that's may not solve
> your use-case.  And it's not free but a regular on-going cost.
>
> http://lifehacker.com/five-best-online-backup-services-1006345049

I don't trust the cloud. Plus, backing up that much data with a slow 
Internet connection? Ouch!
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#63297

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2014-08-16 22:29 -0400
Message-ID	<160820142229354422%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#63292

In article <G5WdnQmjGqK6kG3OnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.
> 
> Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P

you're insistence of free data recovery software indicates that your
data is not worth anything, so why waste time and money backing it up?

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#63353

From	android <here@there.was>
Date	2014-08-18 15:19 +0200
Message-ID	<c5ecrqFejchU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#63292

In article <G5WdnQmjGqK6kG3OnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 8/16/2014 6:44 PM PT, nospam typed:
> > you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.
> 
> Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P

U can save time tooo by not doing that B U thing. Time is money. Get 
rich quick: Ditch your computer in the recycling bin!!! ;-ppp
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#63358

From	ANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
Date	2014-08-18 17:00 -0500
Message-ID	<vfidnfTQMZTn6m_OnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63353

> > > you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.
> > 
> > Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P

> U can save time tooo by not doing that B U thing. Time is money. Get 
> rich quick: Ditch your computer in the recycling bin!!! ;-ppp

Or as my computer friend says, "Ants should not be using computers." 
If no computers, then what would I be doing? :P
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#63365

From	android <here@there.was>
Date	2014-08-19 06:45 +0200
Message-ID	<c5g347Fpob0U9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#63358

In article <vfidnfTQMZTn6m_OnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

> > > > you can save even more money by not getting backup drives.
> > > 
> > > Not getting backup drives? Then, how would I back up? :P
> 
> > U can save time tooo by not doing that B U thing. Time is money. Get 
> > rich quick: Ditch your computer in the recycling bin!!! ;-ppp
> 
> Or as my computer friend says, "Ants should not be using computers." 
> If no computers, then what would I be doing? :P

Analog television?
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#63366

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2014-08-18 23:16 -0700
Message-ID	<IMSdnRpskMQldm_OnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63365

On 8/18/2014 9:45 PM PT, android typed:
> Analog television?

I still have and use my 19.5" Sharp CRT TV from January 1996. :)
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#63367

From	android <here@there.was>
Date	2014-08-19 08:55 +0200
Message-ID	<c5gam6FreloU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#63366

In article <IMSdnRpskMQldm_OnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 8/18/2014 9:45 PM PT, android typed:
> > Analog television?
> 
> I still have and use my 19.5" Sharp CRT TV from January 1996. :)

Are you a black or a white ant? On that late night show that is...
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#63368

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2014-08-19 02:31 -0700
Message-ID	<Z9udnV6KcrP0hG7OnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63367

On 8/18/2014 11:55 PM PT, android typed:

> In article <IMSdnRpskMQldm_OnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>   Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>> On 8/18/2014 9:45 PM PT, android typed:
>>> Analog television?
>>
>> I still have and use my 19.5" Sharp CRT TV from January 1996. :)
>
> Are you a black or a white ant? On that late night show that is...

Which late night show? I used to watch Arsenio, Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien 
(Coco), Letterman, etc. a lot when I was a teen(ager). Now, I just watch 
clips online. As for colors, I am of all colors but I prefer red. :P
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#63369

From	android <here@there.was>
Date	2014-08-19 12:11 +0200
Message-ID	<c5gm6uFtr3kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#63368

In article <Z9udnV6KcrP0hG7OnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 8/18/2014 11:55 PM PT, android typed:
> 
> > In article <IMSdnRpskMQldm_OnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> >   Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/18/2014 9:45 PM PT, android typed:
> >>> Analog television?
> >>
> >> I still have and use my 19.5" Sharp CRT TV from January 1996. :)
> >
> > Are you a black or a white ant? On that late night show that is...
> 
> Which late night show? I used to watch Arsenio, Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien 
> (Coco), Letterman, etc. a lot when I was a teen(ager). Now, I just watch 
> clips online. As for colors, I am of all colors but I prefer red. :P

You're obviously not in the know.
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#63376 — Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? (OT)

From	ANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
Date	2014-08-19 19:39 -0500
Subject	Re: A free GUI software replacement for SMARTreporter for Mac OS X? (OT)
Message-ID	<CvydnZKbzJ_Ec27OnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#63369

> > >> On 8/18/2014 9:45 PM PT, android typed:
> > >>> Analog television?
> > >>
> > >> I still have and use my 19.5" Sharp CRT TV from January 1996. :)
> > >
> > > Are you a black or a white ant? On that late night show that is...
> > 
> > Which late night show? I used to watch Arsenio, Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien 
> > (Coco), Letterman, etc. a lot when I was a teen(ager). Now, I just watch 
> > clips online. As for colors, I am of all colors but I prefer red. :P

> You're obviously not in the know.

Eh?
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#63296

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2014-08-17 14:28 +1200
Message-ID	<170820141428119466%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to	#63288

In article <9dOdnSGEGMvclW3OnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> On 8/16/2014 5:43 PM PT, nospam typed:
> >>>
> >>> if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.
> >>
> >> Is there a freeware type like DiskWarrior?
> >
> > if your data is not worth what diskwarrior costs, then just reformat it.
> >
> > apple disk utility might fix some things but it's nowhere near as
> > thorough.
> 
> Aren't there other non-Apple and non-DiskWarrior disk utilities out 
> there that are free?

I wouldn't bother. Like pretty much everything with "smart" in it's
name, the "SMART" gimmick on hard drives is virtually useless and
certainly won't stop a drive suddenly going dead on you with no
warning.

There probably is freeware / shareware Mac disk utlilies, but I haven't
used them so I can't say whether or not they're any good or
trustworthy.

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#63304

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2014-08-17 03:18 +0000
Message-ID	<c5al7lFlp7kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#63288

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.mac.apps.]
On 2014-08-17, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> On 8/16/2014 5:43 PM PT, nospam typed:
>
>>>> if you do need the data, get diskwarrior.
>>>
>>> Is there a freeware type like DiskWarrior?
>>
>> if your data is not worth what diskwarrior costs, then just reformat it.
>>
>> apple disk utility might fix some things but it's nowhere near as
>> thorough.
>
> Aren't there other non-Apple and non-DiskWarrior disk utilities out 
> there that are free?

Why bother? If Disk Utility can't fix it, then a quick Erase will wipe
it clean so you can start fresh (assuming the hard drive hasn't
physically failed). Then you can restore from backup, if needed.

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