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| Started by | Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2014-08-08 21:36 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-08-10 19:08 -0700 |
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10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-08 21:36 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-09 15:37 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-09 11:20 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-09 17:20 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-09 22:31 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 11:35 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 18:50 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 11:53 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 18:55 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 15:09 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 12:24 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 21:26 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-10 19:30 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-10 22:36 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 01:43 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-11 09:54 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-11 12:12 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 15:49 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 09:21 +1200
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 18:32 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 23:17 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 23:28 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 16:14 +1200
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 01:40 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-08-12 14:21 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-13 09:16 +1200
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 13:26 +1200
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-11 21:35 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 23:31 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 16:12 +1200
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-12 00:31 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 01:40 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 17:57 +1200
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-12 02:54 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 03:14 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-10-16 22:46 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-10-17 01:09 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 02:35 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 02:48 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-10-18 01:42 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-10-17 01:45 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 06:27 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-10-17 08:14 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-10-17 10:55 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-10-17 10:12 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-10-17 12:41 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-10-18 12:25 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-10-18 14:49 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-10-17 10:54 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-10-19 05:32 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-11 14:11 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 14:56 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-11 09:54 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 16:25 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-12 21:03 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-13 15:10 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-13 09:52 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 14:37 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-13 11:50 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-13 11:51 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-14 10:17 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-14 20:43 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-11 14:39 -0500
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 23:15 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 15:52 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-11 14:30 -0600
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 18:42 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 20:32 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 14:25 -0700
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 21:26 -0400
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 01:32 +0000
Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 19:08 -0700
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| From | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 01:45 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1ltn0q8.l7qot65gjbkwN%nmassello@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #65807 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > disk warrior works fine with core storage volumes. And does it run in Yosemite and repair a Yosemite disk safely? Is there any information at the Alsoft web site about Yosemite compatibility?
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 06:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m1qqtt$5ph$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65818 |
On 2014-10-17 07:45:36 +0000, nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) said: > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> disk warrior works fine with core storage volumes. > > And does it run in Yosemite and repair a Yosemite disk safely? Is there > any information at the Alsoft web site about Yosemite compatibility? None... but I've used it on the beta version. No crashes, or panics... but who the hell knows what it did under the hood. It might be a disaster in waiting. I didn't mind using it on the beta, but real life is different. I'll wait for Alsoft to comment before I try it again. -- “Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.” ―A Saunders
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| From | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 08:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1ltni7y.4db9bgf2ao7gN%nmassello@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #65822 |
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll wait for Alsoft to comment before I try it again. That could be a long wait. The latest entry on Alsoft's support page is an announcement that 4.4 is compatible with Mavericks -- dated October 2013.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 10:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <171020141055006480%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #65832 |
In article <1ltni7y.4db9bgf2ao7gN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I'll wait for Alsoft to comment before I try it again. > > That could be a long wait. The latest entry on Alsoft's support page is > an announcement that 4.4 is compatible with Mavericks -- dated October > 2013. mavericks was released in october 2013, the same month as the disk warrior update, so if there is any issue with yosemite, an update will be released *very* soon. you do realize that alsoft *must* wait for the final yosemite release before they can release an update, right?
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| From | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 10:12 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1ltno2e.h6vvgg1bj4zd0N%nmassello@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #65839 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > you do realize that alsoft *must* wait for the final yosemite release > before they can release an update, right? You do realize that nothing prevented Alsoft from publishing information about product development, such as 64-bit support and Yosemite compatibility, during the past year?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 12:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <171020141241531289%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #65853 |
In article <1ltno2e.h6vvgg1bj4zd0N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > you do realize that alsoft *must* wait for the final yosemite release > > before they can release an update, right? > > You do realize that nothing prevented Alsoft from publishing information > about product development, such as 64-bit support and Yosemite > compatibility, during the past year? what for? they've always updated it any time there was an issue with previous versions, as they did with mavericks right after its release. there is no reason to expect they won't update it again, if it's even needed. they do have to wait for the actual release version to test it. as for 64 bit, alsoft has repeatedly said they're working on a 64 bit version. what else do you want? keep in mind that it took apple many years to update final cut to be 64 bit, and that was with a lot more resources to devote to it than alsoft has (and it's a much simpler app to write) and apple was only able to do so by removing most of the functionality from the previous final cut app the process.
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| From | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| Date | 2014-10-18 12:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1ltpods.18vxsiq5evzioN%nmassello@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #65854 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > what for? To maintain confidence among existing and potential customers that your product is still in active development and is worth buying.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-18 14:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <181020141449405207%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #65929 |
In article <1ltpods.18vxsiq5evzioN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > what for? > > To maintain confidence among existing and potential customers that your > product is still in active development and is worth buying. they keep updating it when needed and have said the 64 bit version is in progress. that sounds like active development to me. as for worth buying, all it takes is repairing a hard drive once and recovering files.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-10-17 10:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <171020141054556208%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #65818 |
In article <1ltn0q8.l7qot65gjbkwN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > disk warrior works fine with core storage volumes. > > And does it run in Yosemite and repair a Yosemite disk safely? Is there > any information at the Alsoft web site about Yosemite compatibility? i haven't tried it in yosemite, which has only been out less than 24 hours, but disk warrior works fine in mountain lion on a core storage volume, including on encrypted volumes. it's a complete non-issue.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-10-19 05:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m200ep$ip0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65838 |
On 2014-10-17 14:54:55 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said: > In article <1ltn0q8.l7qot65gjbkwN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello > <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> disk warrior works fine with core storage volumes. >> >> And does it run in Yosemite and repair a Yosemite disk safely? Is there >> any information at the Alsoft web site about Yosemite compatibility? > > i haven't tried it in yosemite, which has only been out less than 24 > hours, but disk warrior works fine in mountain lion on a core storage > volume, including on encrypted volumes. > > it's a complete non-issue. I had planned on waiting... but ended up running DW as a last resort. I was having problems with restarting, and tried DW as a remedy. It didn't seem to do any harm - but I ended up re-installing Yosemite from a USB drive just to be on the safe side. -- I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. -W Rogers
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-08-11 14:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnluhjnp.1cq.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #63141 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> was all, like: --> Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:30:30 -0700 <mcmurtrie-B282FA.19303010082014@news.sonic.net> > In article <ls8g0s$t25$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On 2014-08-10 18:35:09 +0000, Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> said: >> >> > In article <mcmurtrie-3871F7.22313309082014@news.sonic.net>, >> > Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote: >> > >> >> Try booting into single user mode and fully reading the disk device with >> >> 'dd' or one of the 'fsck' options. I've had bad experiences with >> >> Hitachi failing while still reporting a good SMART status. MacOS X >> >> rarely reports fatal disk I/O errors on its own. >> > >> > I finally got the 64-bit 10.6 up again, but then it failed on reboot, so, >> > crap, >> > that means a race condition (unlikely) or a flakey disk or disk sector. Oh, >> > well. I got an external disk with more than enough spare room, so I can >> > copying >> > off to a spare and all that kind of nonsense. Oh, mother pus bucket. >> >> I take it you don't have something like Diskwarrior... I've >> resurrected drives that wouldn't boot with DW before. >> >> It's expensive, and a one-trick pony - but it does what it does very >> well. Their tech support will even give you a password that will >> unlock hidden diagnostics within the program for specific needs. >> >> I've heard of cases where it's run for hours, or even days to fix >> problems on a drive. > Lucky you. For me it usually crashes or runs out of memory. Strange, in many years that has never happened to me. > Recent versions of fsck_hfs have all the same features as DW but without > the crashing and aborting. Yes, it even does lossy repairs > (cross-linked files) and can rebuild btrees. No version of fsck does what DW does. You're just lying here. (I'd say "badly misinformed," but you have a track record, so I'll stick with lying). -- 'You're your own worst enemy, Rincewind,' said the sword. Rincewind looked up at the grinning men. 'Bet?' --Colour of Magic
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-11 14:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c4s3s7Fkk9pU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #63141 |
On 2014-08-11, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote: > > Recent versions of fsck_hfs have all the same features as DW but without > the crashing and aborting. Yes, it even does lossy repairs > (cross-linked files) and can rebuild btrees. Even those of us who prefer backups to repair utilities know that's not true. Where do you get this stuff? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| Date | 2014-08-11 09:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <1lq7k28.1le6c2n20ivnkN%nmassello@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #63128 |
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > I take it you don't have something like Diskwarrior... I've > resurrected drives that wouldn't boot with DW before. > > It's expensive, and a one-trick pony - but it does what it does very > well. Their tech support will even give you a password that will > unlock hidden diagnostics within the program for specific needs. > > I've heard of cases where it's run for hours, or even days to fix > problems on a drive. Better to spend hours restoring from a backup than days on a recovery procedure that might not succeed. DiskWarrior is not a substitute for a backup. Nothing is. At this point, Drive Genius is a better buy.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-11 16:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c4s93bFlok5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #63149 |
On 2014-08-11, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I take it you don't have something like Diskwarrior... I've >> resurrected drives that wouldn't boot with DW before. >> >> It's expensive, and a one-trick pony - but it does what it does very >> well. Their tech support will even give you a password that will >> unlock hidden diagnostics within the program for specific needs. >> >> I've heard of cases where it's run for hours, or even days to fix >> problems on a drive. > > Better to spend hours restoring from a backup than days on a recovery > procedure that might not succeed. DiskWarrior is not a substitute for a > backup. Nothing is. Yep. With a solid backup strategy, recovery is always a simple "restore from backup" away. : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> |
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| Date | 2014-08-12 21:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mcmurtrie-0BD85C.21035612082014@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #63151 |
In article <c4s93bFlok5U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-08-11, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: > > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I take it you don't have something like Diskwarrior... I've > >> resurrected drives that wouldn't boot with DW before. > >> > >> It's expensive, and a one-trick pony - but it does what it does very > >> well. Their tech support will even give you a password that will > >> unlock hidden diagnostics within the program for specific needs. > >> > >> I've heard of cases where it's run for hours, or even days to fix > >> problems on a drive. > > > > Better to spend hours restoring from a backup than days on a recovery > > procedure that might not succeed. DiskWarrior is not a substitute for a > > backup. Nothing is. > > Yep. With a solid backup strategy, recovery is always a simple "restore > from backup" away. : ) It takes a very long time to restore. An older Drobo FS with 5 TB on it will struggle to produce 10 MB/sec. If you can only afford one backup, then you essentially have no backup at all during the time it takes to rebuild your main system. That's why recovery, even if you need to sync from backup to fix damage, is far preferred to rebuilding.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-13 15:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c51deuFnvadU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #63201 |
On 2014-08-13, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote: > In article <c4s93bFlok5U1@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Yep. With a solid backup strategy, recovery is always a simple "restore >> from backup" away. : ) > > It takes a very long time to restore. Nope, not here, it doesn't. > An older Drobo FS with 5 TB on it will struggle to produce 10 MB/sec. Nope, not all of us have that problem. > If you can only afford one backup, then you essentially have no backup > at all during the time it takes to rebuild your main system. There's no need to rebuild anything. You simply restore from backup and you are done. And you'd still have only one backup if you used DiskWarrior to rebuild your directory. And not all problems are due to directory damage - sometimes the hard drive simply quits working correctly, in which case DiskWarrior cannot help you. > That's why recovery, even if you need to sync from backup to fix > damage, is far preferred to rebuilding. Nope, not for everyone, it isn't. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-13 09:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-AB1DB2.09521613082014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #63201 |
> > Yep. With a solid backup strategy, recovery is always a simple "restore > > from backup" away. : ) > > It takes a very long time to restore. An older Drobo FS with 5 TB on it > will struggle to produce 10 MB/sec. If you can only afford one backup, Actually it's better to use multiple strategies. Copy important folders to other device and/or burn to CD; do a block by copy to a different device; Time machine; and make zip copies that should land on different tracks. Anyway it reported a possible sector flaw. And I read Disk Utility updates the flaw map on a secure disk erase. -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-13 14:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lsgb98$qh0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #63201 |
On 2014-08-13 04:03:57 +0000, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> said: > In article <c4s93bFlok5U1@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2014-08-11, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I take it you don't have something like Diskwarrior... I've >>>> resurrected drives that wouldn't boot with DW before. >>>> >>>> It's expensive, and a one-trick pony - but it does what it does very >>>> well. Their tech support will even give you a password that will >>>> unlock hidden diagnostics within the program for specific needs. >>>> >>>> I've heard of cases where it's run for hours, or even days to fix >>>> problems on a drive. >>> >>> Better to spend hours restoring from a backup than days on a recovery >>> procedure that might not succeed. DiskWarrior is not a substitute for a >>> backup. Nothing is. >> >> Yep. With a solid backup strategy, recovery is always a simple "restore >> from backup" away. : ) > > It takes a very long time to restore. An older Drobo FS with 5 TB on it > will struggle to produce 10 MB/sec. If you can only afford one backup, > then you essentially have no backup at all during the time it takes to > rebuild your main system. That's why recovery, even if you need to sync > from backup to fix damage, is far preferred to rebuilding. I keep my system separate from my data. It takes all of 25 minutes to restore from a SuperDuper disk image. -- "Don't Believe Everything You Read on the Internet" -Albert Einstein
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| From | Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-13 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-10C8C4.11503913082014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #63204 |
In article <lsgb98$qh0$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > "Don't Believe Everything You Read on the Internet" -Albert Einstein What he actually said was to warn us when the Internet reaches a level of complexity it will become selfaware. At that point it will be beam itself with DVD lasers into space as immortal, coherent, conscious light. Humans will be abandonned, as watchers of the skies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bETFh4eRdM8 -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.
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| From | Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-08-13 11:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-B6B3B9.11510613082014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #63204 |
In article <lsgb98$qh0$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: > "Don't Believe Everything You Read on the Internet" -Albert Einstein What he actually said was to warn us when the Internet reaches a level of complexity it will become selfaware. At that point it will be beam itself with DVD lasers into space as immortal, coherent, conscious light. Humans will be abandonned, as watchers of the skies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bETFh4eRdM8 -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' Icke's razor: Given two equally plausible explanations, choose the weirder.
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