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| First post | 2013-01-23 17:07 -0500 |
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Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-23 17:07 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-23 17:41 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-23 17:54 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-23 23:04 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-01-23 23:05 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-23 21:27 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-24 08:06 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-24 06:03 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-24 03:56 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-24 17:34 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-24 08:01 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-24 15:34 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-24 13:44 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2013-01-24 23:08 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-24 19:12 -0600
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2013-01-25 01:52 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-25 04:57 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 07:38 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2013-01-27 18:33 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-27 15:45 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-28 10:46 -0600
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-24 16:04 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-24 16:58 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-24 19:20 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-24 19:50 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-24 16:52 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-25 04:50 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-25 15:23 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 07:39 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-25 10:58 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 07:39 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-25 11:05 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-01-25 13:27 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-25 12:42 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-25 16:56 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-25 15:10 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-25 20:53 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-25 19:59 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-25 23:43 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-26 05:16 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-26 14:03 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-26 15:08 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-26 16:02 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-26 12:16 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-26 14:44 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-26 13:28 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-26 16:14 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-01-26 00:29 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-26 05:18 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-26 12:13 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-25 18:04 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-25 16:42 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-25 23:30 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-26 12:24 -0700
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-25 18:01 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-24 16:53 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-24 19:18 -0600
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 07:15 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-24 19:59 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 07:26 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-25 16:07 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 13:30 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-26 09:13 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-26 13:24 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-26 16:58 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-26 14:10 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-26 17:16 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-26 14:25 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-27 09:27 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-27 09:19 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-28 19:41 -0500
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-28 19:17 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-28 09:56 -0600
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-28 09:54 -0600
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-25 02:59 +0000
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-25 07:42 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-24 16:03 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-24 16:09 -0800
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-24 15:42 +0100
Re: Apple Q1 2012 Financial Results Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2013-01-24 23:08 +0000
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-25 16:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38943 |
On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is
> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this strictly
> for the money. That's just dumb.
But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or
new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what
someone else has gotten "out of".
Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares
to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based
(conserve/store wealth or grow wealth).
IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's
at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock.
--
"There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties
were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
-Sir John A. Macdonald
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-25 13:30 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-E9BDEE.13305125012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38964 |
In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: > > > Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is > > innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this strictly > > for the money. That's just dumb. > > But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or > new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what > someone else has gotten "out of". > > Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares > to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based > (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). > > IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's > at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment decisions. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-26 09:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #38965 |
On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is
>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this strictly
>>> for the money. That's just dumb.
>>
>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or
>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what
>> someone else has gotten "out of".
>>
>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares
>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based
>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth).
>>
>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's
>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock.
>
> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment
> decisions.
Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion based.
--
"There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties
were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
-Sir John A. Macdonald
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-26 13:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-A18598.13242726012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38990 |
In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote: > > In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >> > >>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is > >>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this strictly > >>> for the money. That's just dumb. > >> > >> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or > >> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what > >> someone else has gotten "out of". > >> > >> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares > >> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based > >> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). > >> > >> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's > >> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. > > > > Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment > > decisions. > > > Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion based. Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based. Nice. Step off, Alan. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-26 16:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #39014 |
On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is
>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this strictly
>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb.
>>>>
>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or
>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what
>>>> someone else has gotten "out of".
>>>>
>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares
>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based
>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth).
>>>>
>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's
>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock.
>>>
>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment
>>> decisions.
>>
>>
>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion based.
>
> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based.
> Nice. Step off, Alan.
Your explanation is emotion based not investment based.
"... innovating and creating products I love to use."
-JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above)
Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour
about.
--
"There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties
were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
-Sir John A. Macdonald
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-26 14:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-AAA337.14101926012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39017 |
In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote: > > In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is > >>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this > >>>>> strictly > >>>>> for the money. That's just dumb. > >>>> > >>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or > >>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what > >>>> someone else has gotten "out of". > >>>> > >>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares > >>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based > >>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). > >>>> > >>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's > >>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. > >>> > >>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment > >>> decisions. > >> > >> > >> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion > >> based. > > > > Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based. > > Nice. Step off, Alan. > > Your explanation is emotion based not investment based. > > "... innovating and creating products I love to use." > -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above) > > Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour > about. You're being an idiot. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-26 17:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vaydnX0MtuQ8yJnMnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #39018 |
On 2013.01.26 17:10 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is
>>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this
>>>>>>> strictly
>>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or
>>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what
>>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares
>>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based
>>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's
>>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment
>>>>> decisions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion
>>>> based.
>>>
>>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based.
>>> Nice. Step off, Alan.
>>
>> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based.
>>
>> "... innovating and creating products I love to use."
>> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above)
>>
>> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour
>> about.
>
> You're being an idiot.
On that basis you're the idiot who invests over "loving products" and
not "strictly for the money". Really. Not a dime you invested ever
found its way to Apple. It only went to whoever sold the stock that you
bought.
--
"There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties
were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
-Sir John A. Macdonald
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-26 14:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-0BD27B.14251426012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39019 |
In article <vaydnX0MtuQ8yJnMnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2013.01.26 17:10 , Jolly Roger wrote: > > In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, > >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is > >>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this > >>>>>>> strictly > >>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO > >>>>>> or > >>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" > >>>>>> what > >>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of". > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few > >>>>>> shares > >>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based > >>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless > >>>>>> it's > >>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. > >>>>> > >>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment > >>>>> decisions. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion > >>>> based. > >>> > >>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based. > >>> Nice. Step off, Alan. > >> > >> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based. > >> > >> "... innovating and creating products I love to use." > >> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above) > >> > >> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour > >> about. > > > > You're being an idiot. > > On that basis you're the idiot who invests over "loving products" and > not "strictly for the money". Really. Not a dime you invested ever > found its way to Apple. It only went to whoever sold the stock that you > bought. You have nothing more than the itsiest bitsiest tiniest inkling about my investment habits precisely because I have told you very little of them; and despite this absence of evidence, like a good little turd, you make wide-ranging assumptions and speculations (something most turds are no good at, BTW) about it. But you truly have no fucking idea. So eat shit, you pompous know-it-all turd. Your words are nothing but hot air in the wind. They are forgotten and discarded with all the rest of the hot air, as it should be. Now fuck off. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-27 09:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8L2dnVb1MtXSpJjMnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #39021 |
On 2013.01.26 17:25 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <vaydnX0MtuQ8yJnMnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013.01.26 17:10 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is
>>>>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this
>>>>>>>>> strictly
>>>>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to"
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few
>>>>>>>> shares
>>>>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based
>>>>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment
>>>>>>> decisions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion
>>>>>> based.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based.
>>>>> Nice. Step off, Alan.
>>>>
>>>> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based.
>>>>
>>>> "... innovating and creating products I love to use."
>>>> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above)
>>>>
>>>> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour
>>>> about.
>>>
>>> You're being an idiot.
>>
>> On that basis you're the idiot who invests over "loving products" and
>> not "strictly for the money". Really. Not a dime you invested ever
>> found its way to Apple. It only went to whoever sold the stock that you
>> bought.
>
> You have nothing more than the itsiest bitsiest tiniest inkling about my
> investment habits precisely because I have told you very little of them;
> and despite this absence of evidence, like a good little turd, you make
> wide-ranging assumptions and speculations (something most turds are no
> good at, BTW) about it. But you truly have no fucking idea. So eat shit,
> you pompous know-it-all turd. Your words are nothing but hot air in the
> wind. They are forgotten and discarded with all the rest of the hot air,
> as it should be. Now fuck off.
No. You need a babysitter and a mouth washing. And a bit of anger
management. Oh, love thy Apple.
--
"There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties
were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
-Sir John A. Macdonald
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-27 09:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-1E1B60.09191827012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39039 |
In article <8L2dnVb1MtXSpJjMnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2013.01.26 17:25 , Jolly Roger wrote: > > In article <vaydnX0MtuQ8yJnMnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> On 2013.01.26 17:10 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>> In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, > >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > >>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is > >>>>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this > >>>>>>>>> strictly > >>>>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO > >>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" > >>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of". > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few > >>>>>>>> shares > >>>>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based > >>>>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless > >>>>>>>> it's > >>>>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment > >>>>>>> decisions. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion > >>>>>> based. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based. > >>>>> Nice. Step off, Alan. > >>>> > >>>> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based. > >>>> > >>>> "... innovating and creating products I love to use." > >>>> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above) > >>>> > >>>> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour > >>>> about. > >>> > >>> You're being an idiot. > >> > >> On that basis you're the idiot who invests over "loving products" and > >> not "strictly for the money". Really. Not a dime you invested ever > >> found its way to Apple. It only went to whoever sold the stock that you > >> bought. > > > > You have nothing more than the itsiest bitsiest tiniest inkling about my > > investment habits precisely because I have told you very little of them; > > and despite this absence of evidence, like a good little turd, you make > > wide-ranging assumptions and speculations (something most turds are no > > good at, BTW) about it. But you truly have no fucking idea. So eat shit, > > you pompous know-it-all turd. Your words are nothing but hot air in the > > wind. They are forgotten and discarded with all the rest of the hot air, > > as it should be. Now fuck off. > > No. You need a babysitter and a mouth washing. And a bit of anger > management. Oh, love thy Apple. Come try to give me a mouth washing, cunt. See what happens. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-28 19:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kNGdnc1l-P4th5rMnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #39043 |
On 2013.01.27 12:19 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <8L2dnVb1MtXSpJjMnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013.01.26 17:25 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> In article <vaydnX0MtuQ8yJnMnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2013.01.26 17:10 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is
>>>>>>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this
>>>>>>>>>>> strictly
>>>>>>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to"
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few
>>>>>>>>>> shares
>>>>>>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based
>>>>>>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment
>>>>>>>>> decisions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion
>>>>>>>> based.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based.
>>>>>>> Nice. Step off, Alan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "... innovating and creating products I love to use."
>>>>>> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour
>>>>>> about.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're being an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> On that basis you're the idiot who invests over "loving products" and
>>>> not "strictly for the money". Really. Not a dime you invested ever
>>>> found its way to Apple. It only went to whoever sold the stock that you
>>>> bought.
>>>
>>> You have nothing more than the itsiest bitsiest tiniest inkling about my
>>> investment habits precisely because I have told you very little of them;
>>> and despite this absence of evidence, like a good little turd, you make
>>> wide-ranging assumptions and speculations (something most turds are no
>>> good at, BTW) about it. But you truly have no fucking idea. So eat shit,
>>> you pompous know-it-all turd. Your words are nothing but hot air in the
>>> wind. They are forgotten and discarded with all the rest of the hot air,
>>> as it should be. Now fuck off.
>>
>> No. You need a babysitter and a mouth washing. And a bit of anger
>> management. Oh, love thy Apple.
>
> Come try to give me a mouth washing, cunt. See what happens.
Oooh, da bad man say filthy words. Ooooohhhh.... anyone trembling?
--
"There were, unfortunately, no great principles on which parties
were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
-Sir John A. Macdonald
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-28 19:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-3518B4.19175528012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39097 |
In article <kNGdnc1l-P4th5rMnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > Oooh, da bad man say filthy words. Ooooohhhh.... anyone trembling? This horse is dead, Alan. The rest of us have moved on. You should too. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-28 09:56 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CD2BFBB4.96FA6%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #39021 |
On 1/26/13 4:25 PM, in article jollyroger-0BD27B.14251426012013@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > In article <vaydnX0MtuQ8yJnMnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> On 2013.01.26 17:10 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>> In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, >>>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is >>>>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this >>>>>>>>> strictly >>>>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few >>>>>>>> shares >>>>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based >>>>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless >>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment >>>>>>> decisions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion >>>>>> based. >>>>> >>>>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based. >>>>> Nice. Step off, Alan. >>>> >>>> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based. >>>> >>>> "... innovating and creating products I love to use." >>>> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above) >>>> >>>> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour >>>> about. >>> >>> You're being an idiot. >> >> On that basis you're the idiot who invests over "loving products" and >> not "strictly for the money". Really. Not a dime you invested ever >> found its way to Apple. It only went to whoever sold the stock that you >> bought. > > You have nothing more than the itsiest bitsiest tiniest inkling about my > investment habits precisely because I have told you very little of them; > and despite this absence of evidence, like a good little turd, you make > wide-ranging assumptions and speculations (something most turds are no > good at, BTW) about it. But you truly have no fucking idea. So eat shit, > you pompous know-it-all turd. Your words are nothing but hot air in the > wind. They are forgotten and discarded with all the rest of the hot air, > as it should be. Now fuck off. Don't hold back, tell him how you REALLY feel!
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-28 09:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CD2BFB71.96FA5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #39018 |
On 1/26/13 4:10 PM, in article jollyroger-AAA337.14101926012013@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > In article <bdOdnZmUX_vwzJnMnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> On 2013.01.26 16:24 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>> In article <1Z-dnSY97M7weZ7MnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2013.01.25 16:30 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> In article <gPOdnUnsh8i3aZ_MnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2013.01.25 10:26 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Personally, I want to invest in Apple the company, a company that is >>>>>>> innovating and creating products I love to use. I'm not in this >>>>>>> strictly >>>>>>> for the money. That's just dumb. >>>>>> >>>>>> But you're not investing in the company at all unless you bought IPO or >>>>>> new issuance. You're merely a shareholder. You've gotten "in to" what >>>>>> someone else has gotten "out of". >>>>>> >>>>>> Your reason above is not a great reason to buy Apple. Oh, a few shares >>>>>> to have skin in the game is OK. But investing should be goal based >>>>>> (conserve/store wealth or grow wealth). >>>>>> >>>>>> IOW: You become a "shareholder" but you're not an "investor" unless it's >>>>>> at IPO time or on the issuance of new stock. >>>>> >>>>> Whatever. I'm glad I don't have to get your approval for my investment >>>>> decisions. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just presenting the reality of it. Investments should not be emotion >>>> based. >>> >>> Now you're claiming to know my investment strategy is emotion based. >>> Nice. Step off, Alan. >> >> Your explanation is emotion based not investment based. >> >> "... innovating and creating products I love to use." >> -JR 2013.01.25 @ 10:26 (above) >> >> Your choice of course and you've done well with it so nothing to be sour >> about. > > You're being an idiot. What else in new?
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-25 02:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnkg3t93.1td1.g.kreme@ananke.local> |
| In reply to | #38918 |
In message <5101cfe5$0$5913$c3e8da3$50776f34@news.astraweb.com> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > And that is something Apple needs to worry about because shareholders > won't be too happy. The solution is to counter those analysts estimates > with realistic ones instead of letting the Wall Street Casino come up > with their own random numbers. No, Apple doesn't need to worry about it at all. They could pump the price up just by buying 10,000,000 shares for $4,500,000,000. That would still leave them enough in cash reserves to buy... I dunno, Disney or Amazon. -- Hey kids, shake it loose together the spotlight's hitting something That's been known to change the weather we'll kill the fatted calf tonight So stick around you're gonna hear electric music: Solid walls of sound
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-25 07:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-CB4958.07422425012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38932 |
In article <slrnkg3t93.1td1.g.kreme@ananke.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <5101cfe5$0$5913$c3e8da3$50776f34@news.astraweb.com> > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > And that is something Apple needs to worry about because shareholders > > won't be too happy. The solution is to counter those analysts estimates > > with realistic ones instead of letting the Wall Street Casino come up > > with their own random numbers. > > No, Apple doesn't need to worry about it at all. They could pump the > price up just by buying 10,000,000 shares for $4,500,000,000. That would > still leave them enough in cash reserves to buy... I dunno, Disney or > Amazon. The concept JF Mezei can't seem to grasp here is there is a distinct difference between a company's actual performance and a company's stock valuation. And the two aren't always related. In fact, in today's fucked up market, I'd go so far as to say they are OFTEN not related. A company that changes business direction based on stock price is doomed. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-24 16:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-28BEA9.16031324012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38886 |
In article <51019ac0$0$21003$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 13-01-24 11:01, Jolly Roger wrote: > > > Meanwhile, long investors pointed at the crybaby "analysts" and giggled. > > Dropping $60 in half a day is no reason to giggle. Apparently nobody taught you the meaning of the phrase "long-term" when you were a child. Relax, we're giggling at you, not with you - oh wait. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-01-24 16:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jollyroger-D03F5E.16093324012013@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #38886 |
In article <51019ac0$0$21003$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 13-01-24 11:01, Jolly Roger wrote: > > > Meanwhile, long investors pointed at the crybaby "analysts" and giggled. > > Dropping $60 in half a day is no reason to giggle. > > What YOU think of Apple's future doesn't matter if other investors are > fleeing the stock because they have decided it is overpriced and Apple > has lost its edge. > > It doesn't matter that you are right and they are wrong. Stock market > doesn't reflect your opinion, even if it may be factually correct, it > reflects market sentiment. It probably doesn't matter to those who can't see past their own noses. For me, it matters because I'm not in this for 12 seconds and then out again to make a quick buck. Unlike those people, I'm not in this purely for the money. I believe this company has the right mix to continue making products I love and the world loves - and success will follow. All of the silly things reactionary people and Wall Street speculators do in the short term simply don't have much of an effect on Apple's long-term strategies - nor should they. Nor do they have a significant effect on my long-term investment strategies - as it should be. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2013-01-24 15:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nospam-9F13D7.15422024012013@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #38809 |
In article <51005f37$0$43827$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Results.html > > > 47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold > > CUPERTINO, California‹January 23, 2013‹Apple® today announced financial > results for its 13-week fiscal 2013 first quarter ended December 29, > 2012. The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion and > record quarterly net profit of $13.1 billion, or $13.81 per diluted > share. These results compare to revenue of $46.3 billion and net profit > of $13.1 billion, or $13.87 per diluted share, in the 14-week year-ago > quarter. Gross margin was 38.6 percent compared to 44.7 percent in the > year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 61 percent of the > quarterąs revenue. What that clearly says is that last year's first quarter was a week longer than this year's. Apparently the margin hit is due to lower margins on the iPad mini. I prefer to interpret that as extending the scope of the iPad market, and thus the market share of the tablet market. Damned if you do, damned if you don't... Also see: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/23/apple_q1_2013_earnings_report/> -- Paul Sture
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| From | Howard.not@home.com (Howard) |
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| Date | 2013-01-24 23:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1kx85cn.1i62p9t1bjhedmN%Howard.not@home.com> |
| In reply to | #38809 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Results.html AND ... what people consistently overlook is that this has all been achieved through one of the worst global recessions in living memory. When the economies start to pick up, Apple's products are the products everyone is dreaming of buying. People who talk about saturation are deluded. Even the trends on the Mac will, I believe, start to reverse when there is more money and people actively want a beautiful desktop machine to go with their iPad or iPhone. Howard
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