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Apple Is Doomed!

Started byFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
First post2013-01-14 12:17 -0500
Last post2013-02-28 09:42 -0500
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  Apple Is Doomed! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-01-14 12:17 -0500
    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-14 09:57 -0800
      Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-15 00:23 -0500
        Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-15 08:53 -0600
          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-15 07:10 -0800
        Re: Apple Is Doomed! "Rollo" <rogerl@gmail.com> - 2013-02-28 09:39 -0500
      Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-16 09:54 -0800
        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-16 10:54 -0800
          Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-16 13:48 -0800
            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-16 20:25 -0800
              Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-17 09:24 -0800
        Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-16 16:59 -0500
          Re: Apple Is Doomed! erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2013-01-17 15:26 -0600
            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-17 14:14 -0800
              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-17 15:19 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-17 14:29 -0800
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2013-01-17 17:36 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-17 18:13 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-18 06:14 -0800
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-18 23:33 -0500
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-17 17:37 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2013-02-27 23:24 -0500
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-01-18 12:49 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-18 10:59 -0700
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2013-01-18 13:36 -0500
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-19 19:56 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-18 03:33 +0000
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-18 06:23 -0800
              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-17 18:12 -0500
                Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-17 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-17 16:56 -0700
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Juan Anonly <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-17 18:06 -0800
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-18 06:30 -0800
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-19 09:34 -0600
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-19 08:15 -0800
                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-20 10:21 -0600
                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-20 11:08 -0800
                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-20 14:36 -0600
                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-20 15:11 -0800
                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-20 18:56 -0600
                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-20 18:33 -0700
                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-20 22:52 -0500
                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-21 08:33 -0800
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-21 11:59 -0500
                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-21 22:51 -0500
                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2013-01-20 19:59 -0800
                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-20 23:08 -0800
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-01-18 12:43 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-19 09:36 -0600
                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-01-18 06:26 -0800
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-18 10:39 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-18 11:05 -0500
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-18 13:22 -0500
                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2013-01-18 10:38 -0800
                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-18 14:11 -0500
                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-19 19:53 +0100
                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2013-01-19 11:19 -0800
                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-20 09:27 +0100
                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2013-03-04 21:51 -0500
                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-03-05 18:55 +0100
                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-03-05 15:20 -0500
                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-18 14:34 -0500
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-18 17:25 -0500
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-18 18:59 -0500
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-18 18:01 -0700
                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-18 20:33 -0500
                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-18 19:02 -0700
                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-19 10:09 -0500
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-19 19:44 +0100
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Juan Anonly <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-19 19:00 -0800
                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-19 23:29 -0500
                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-20 10:23 -0600
                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Juan Anonly <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-20 10:57 -0800
                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-20 22:58 -0500
                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-20 23:10 -0800
                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-01-21 22:43 +0000
                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-21 22:53 -0500
                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-21 21:04 -0800
                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-22 13:32 -0500
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 09:31 -0800
                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-23 13:32 -0500
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 13:28 -0800
                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed!   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2013-01-23 01:18 +0000
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-23 07:34 -0500
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 09:33 -0800
                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-23 12:30 -0800
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-23 16:16 -0500
                                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-23 15:16 -0800
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-23 19:06 -0500
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-23 16:17 -0500
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 13:39 -0800
                                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-24 16:13 +0100
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-24 08:26 -0800
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-01-23 23:55 +0000
                                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 17:01 -0800
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-01-24 01:32 +0000
                                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 18:29 -0800
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-23 20:01 -0700
                                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-24 09:53 -0800
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-24 11:56 -0700
                                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-24 16:00 -0500
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-24 14:15 -0500
                                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-24 12:20 -0800
                                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-24 16:57 -0500
                                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-24 18:02 -0500
                                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-24 16:57 -0700
                                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-01-24 19:18 -0500
                                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-24 19:08 -0600
                                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-24 18:43 -0700
                                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-24 16:36 -0800
                                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed!   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2013-01-25 12:00 +0000
                                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-25 08:02 -0800
                                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-24 18:16 -0800
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-26 21:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-28 17:19 -0800
                                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-28 18:16 -0800
                                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-28 19:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-30 23:00 -0500
                                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-30 23:13 -0700
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed!   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2013-01-23 17:51 +0000
                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 13:40 -0800
                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-22 23:40 -0500
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 09:34 -0800
                                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-01-22 18:10 +0000
                                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-22 23:31 -0500
                                        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-23 08:05 +0000
                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 09:26 -0800
                                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-01-23 22:51 -0500
                                            Re: Apple Is Doomed! Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-01-23 23:06 -0500
                                              Re: Apple Is Doomed! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-01-23 21:37 -0800
                                                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-01-24 05:59 +0000
                          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2013-03-04 21:55 -0500
                Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-18 15:54 +0100
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-01-18 17:20 -0500
                  Re: Apple Is Doomed! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-01-21 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-01-23 22:44 +0100
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2013-01-23 20:05 -0800
                      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-01-23 21:23 -0700
    Re: Apple Is Doomed! "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-01-14 13:36 -0500
      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-01-15 11:09 -0500
    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2013-01-14 21:24 -0800
    Re: Apple Is Doomed! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2013-02-27 23:20 -0500
      Re: Apple Is Doomed! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-27 23:29 -0500
        Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-03-01 11:47 -0700
      Re: Apple Is Doomed! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-03-01 11:47 -0700
        Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-03-01 14:49 -0500
          Re: Apple Is Doomed! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-03-01 13:02 -0800
            Re: Apple Is Doomed! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-03-01 16:23 -0500
    Re: Apple Is Doomed! "Rollo" <rogerl@gmail.com> - 2013-02-28 09:42 -0500

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#38596

FromKurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
Date2013-01-17 17:37 -0500
Message-ID<5bKdnWEsY4yl4GXNnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#38594
In article <jollyroger-107960.14295517012013@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <michelle-899C76.15192317012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <jollyroger-AB845D.14142617012013@news.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of 
> > > story.
> > 
> > They stop being stupid when they turn 20, and are no longer teens?
> 
> Nah. Some people grow up to be absurdly stupid their entire lives. : )

Some are born stupid while others have stupidity thrust upon them. :)
-- 
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the bastards."-- Claire Wolfe

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#40294

FromWalter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
Date2013-02-27 23:24 -0500
Message-ID<proto-A74E54.23242127022013@news.panix.com>
In reply to#38596
In article <5bKdnWEsY4yl4GXNnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-107960.14295517012013@news.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <michelle-899C76.15192317012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <jollyroger-AB845D.14142617012013@news.individual.net>,
> > >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of 
> > > > story.
> > > 
> > > They stop being stupid when they turn 20, and are no longer teens?
> > 
> > Nah. Some people grow up to be absurdly stupid their entire lives. : )
> 
> Some are born stupid while others have stupidity thrust upon them. :)

And other work hard to attain stupidity.

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#38634

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2013-01-18 12:49 -0500
Message-ID<fmoore-18A429.12493418012013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#38594
In article <jollyroger-107960.14295517012013@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <michelle-899C76.15192317012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <jollyroger-AB845D.14142617012013@news.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of 
> > > story.
> > 
> > They stop being stupid when they turn 20, and are no longer teens?
> 
> Nah. Some people grow up to be absurdly stupid their entire lives. : )

Two relevant quotes:

'Teenagers are god's revenge on parents for procreating.'

'When I was 16, I thought my father was the dumbest person in the world. 
When I turned 30, I thought he was actually reasonably intelligent.'

(Sorry can't remember the sources.)

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#38635

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-01-18 10:59 -0700
Message-ID<michelle-C1A789.10595718012013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#38634
In article <fmoore-18A429.12493418012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> Two relevant quotes:
> 
> 'Teenagers are god's revenge on parents for procreating.'
> 
> 'When I was 16, I thought my father was the dumbest person in the world. 
> When I turned 30, I thought he was actually reasonably intelligent.'

I heard something similar to that second:  "The older I got, the smarter my 
father got."

And then there's, "Grandparents and grandchildren are natural allies; they 
have the same enemies."

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#38638

From"Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net>
Date2013-01-18 13:36 -0500
Message-ID<tkettler-7B3979.13360018012013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#38635
In article <michelle-C1A789.10595718012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-18A429.12493418012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > Two relevant quotes:
> > 
> > 'Teenagers are god's revenge on parents for procreating.'
> > 
> > 'When I was 16, I thought my father was the dumbest person in the world. 
> > When I turned 30, I thought he was actually reasonably intelligent.'
> 
> I heard something similar to that second:  "The older I got, the smarter my 
> father got."
> 
> And then there's, "Grandparents and grandchildren are natural allies; they 
> have the same enemies."

Something similar is the 3 Laws of Grandparents:

1) Give them presents. Especially, give them presents that the parents 
don't want the grandchildren to have.

2) Feed them food. Especially, feed them junk food that the parents 
don't want the grandchildren to eat.

3) Send them home and make the parents deal with the consequences.
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#38696

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2013-01-19 19:56 +0100
Message-ID<nospam-21337B.19560519012013@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#38635
In article <michelle-C1A789.10595718012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-18A429.12493418012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > Two relevant quotes:
> > 
> > 'Teenagers are god's revenge on parents for procreating.'
> > 
> > 'When I was 16, I thought my father was the dumbest person in the world. 
> > When I turned 30, I thought he was actually reasonably intelligent.'
> 
> I heard something similar to that second:  "The older I got, the smarter my 
> father got."

It is true that I didn't realise what a hassle my father had gone 
through until I had a taste of office politics and job insecurity.
 
> And then there's, "Grandparents and grandchildren are natural allies; they 
> have the same enemies."

I like that one.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#38608

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-01-18 03:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnkfhgkg.24t7.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#38592
In message <michelle-899C76.15192317012013@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <jollyroger-AB845D.14142617012013@news.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of 
>> story.

> They stop being stupid when they turn 20, and are no longer teens?

They begin the process of no longer being stupid.

-- 
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actors and I didn't understand what any of it was about' Moore: 'Ah, yes
I expect that's the thing I'm in.'

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#38618

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2013-01-18 06:23 -0800
Message-ID<jollyroger-C6B064.06234018012013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#38608
In article <slrnkfhgkg.24t7.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <michelle-899C76.15192317012013@news.eternal-september.org> 
>   Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <jollyroger-AB845D.14142617012013@news.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> >> Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of 
> >> story.
> 
> > They stop being stupid when they turn 20, and are no longer teens?
> 
> They begin the process of no longer being stupid.

If they're lucky, yes.

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#38598

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2013-01-17 18:12 -0500
Message-ID<E7WdnWHzNJXVGGXNnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#38591
On 2013.01.17 17:14 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <drache-9AB7FF.15263017012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>   erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <50f722cf$0$52008$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>,
>>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Teens gobble up new technology first. Senior citizens last.
>>
>> You know different senior citizens than I do 8-)
>
> No shit. While my grandfather does show signs of aging, he consistently
> amazes me regarding how fast he picks things up I show him on his
> computer or things he reads and learns all by himself - he's like a
> sponge. I can only hope I'm as mentally capable when I am over 80. : )
>
> Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of
> story.

I've often thought there should be an exam:

		"Adult Qualification Exam".

To take the exam you need only prove you are 15 or older.

IOW - I see no reason why a person's age suddenly turns them into an 
adult at the stroke of midnight.  I've known teenagers who were more 
adult than many over 18; I've known 45 year olds who can't hold a candle 
to those teens...

The exam would cover personal finance, basics about 
civil/commercial/criminal law, justice system, government 
operations/finance/taxation, personal responsibility for one's actions, etc.

You would need to pass to drive, vote, possess firearms outside the 
home, attend a public university and so on...
		
-- 
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  were divided – politics became a mere struggle for office."
                                           -Sir John A. Macdonald

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#38600

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-01-17 17:38 -0600
Message-ID<CD1DE783.9682E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#38598


On 1/17/13 5:12 PM, in article
E7WdnWHzNJXVGGXNnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Alan Browne"
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2013.01.17 17:14 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> In article <drache-9AB7FF.15263017012013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>   erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <50f722cf$0$52008$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Teens gobble up new technology first. Senior citizens last.
>>> 
>>> You know different senior citizens than I do 8-)
>> 
>> No shit. While my grandfather does show signs of aging, he consistently
>> amazes me regarding how fast he picks things up I show him on his
>> computer or things he reads and learns all by himself - he's like a
>> sponge. I can only hope I'm as mentally capable when I am over 80. : )
>> 
>> Also, teens are absurdly stupid almost 100% of their existence. End of
>> story.
> 
> I've often thought there should be an exam:
> 
> "Adult Qualification Exam".
> 
> To take the exam you need only prove you are 15 or older.
> 
> IOW - I see no reason why a person's age suddenly turns them into an
> adult at the stroke of midnight.  I've known teenagers who were more
> adult than many over 18; I've known 45 year olds who can't hold a candle
> to those teens...
> 
> The exam would cover personal finance, basics about
> civil/commercial/criminal law, justice system, government
> operations/finance/taxation, personal responsibility for one's actions, etc.
> 
> You would need to pass to drive, vote, possess firearms outside the
> home, attend a public university and so on...
> 

Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you
'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms. Sadly, the
public school system failed us long ago in turning these skulls full of mush
into productive society members. I knew we could agee on something, LOL!

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#38602

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-01-17 16:56 -0700
Message-ID<michelle-6025E5.16563817012013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#38600
In article <CD1DE783.9682E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you 
> 'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms. Sadly, the 
> public school system failed us long ago in turning these skulls full of 
> mush into productive society members. I knew we could agee on something, 
> LOL!

How far back is "long ago"?  Here are some graduates from my high school 
from 1991 to 2000.

James Mack III '91 is one of the nation's leading researchers in "green 
chemistry." In 2006, he re- ceived a major grant from the National Science 
Foundation to advance green chemistry by a thorough study of ball-milling 
reactions, which avoids the use of solvents. He earned his Ph.D. in 2000 
from the University of New Hampshire, studying Diels-Alder reactions of 
fullerenes with various linear acenes. This was followed with a 
post-doctoral fellowship at Boston College developing rational syntheses of 
unique fullerenes and nanotubes. In 2003, Mack joined the staff of the 
University of Cincinnati as an assistant professor of chemistry. In 2009, 
he was promoted to associate professor.

Michael Blake '00 followed his graduation from the prestigious Medill 
Journalism School at Northwest- ern University in 2004 with thoughts of 
involving himself in the political process. He worked for presi- dential 
candidate Barack Obama in Michigan and then went on to help the campaign in 
Iowa. With Obama's victory, Blake was appointed associate deputy director 
of the Office of Intergovernmental Affairs. In that capacity, he serves as 
White House Liaison with State Treasurers. In 2012, he left the White House 
and joined President Obama's re-election campaign, serving as deputy 
director of the campaign's Operation Vote program.

Christine Fleming '00 is a research fellow at the Wellman Center for 
Photomedicine at Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Medical School. She 
received her B.S. in electrical engineering and comput- er sciences from 
M.I.T. in 2004 and her Ph.D. in biomedical engineering from Case Western 
Reserve University in 2010. Fleming's research interests include developing 
optical coherence tomography technologies for cardiovascular disease 
diagnosis and therapy monitoring. In 2011 as a co-inventor, she applied for 
a U.S. patent for what is described as "apparatus, systems, methods and 
computer- accessible medium for spectral analysis of optical coherence 
tomography images."

Aracelis Lucero '00 attended Middlebury College in Vermont. In 2003, she 
did a semester abroad in Paris, France, where she attended the L'Universite 
de Paris (La Sorbonne). In 2004, she received her Bachelors in Science with 
a double major in Economics and French. In August 2004, Lucero began her 
career working for Lehman Brothers Inc. as an operations analyst and, by 
2008, was a senior analyst and manager. Currently, she works for Barclays 
Capital. Lucero is on the board of directors and treasurer of the Mexican 
American Students Alliance.

Luis Rohena '00 was valedictorian at his Clinton graduation and returned to 
give the commencement speech at the 2006 graduation. After earning a B.A. 
in biochemistry at Columbia University in 2004, he joined the army and went 
on to medical school at Harvard. With the rank of captain, he completed his 
pediatrics residency at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. 
Currently, he is a pediatri- cian and assistant professor at the Columbia 
University Medical Center. In November 2012, Rohena returned to Clinton to 
talk to two classes involved in the Behind the Book program. As he advised 
the students on their research projects, he was surely inspiring them with 
what a young Clinton graduate can achieve.

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#38605

FromJuan Anonly <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-01-17 18:06 -0800
Message-ID<2013011718065926811-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#38600
On 2013-01-17 23:38:11 +0000, George Kerby said:

> Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you
> 'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms.

Thank you for pretending to participate.
-- 
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#38620

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2013-01-18 06:30 -0800
Message-ID<jollyroger-A9E5DD.06305418012013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#38600
In article <CD1DE783.9682E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you
> 'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms. Sadly, the
> public school system failed us long ago in turning these skulls full of mush
> into productive society members. I knew we could agee on something, LOL!

Oh shut the fuck up, George. My god... It's like the only way you can 
function is to constantly try to make every little issue into a 
political issue. Get this through your thick head: in this broken 
two-party system, BOTH parties are responsible for the mess this country 
(and to some extent the world) is in right now. Perhaps it's not a 
coincidence you started blabbing your mouth just as we started talking 
about maturity and adulthood. Frankly, your childish political posturing 
is tired, boring, and irritating. Do the rest of the world a favor and 
smoke a joint, for Christ sake.

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#38685

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-01-19 09:34 -0600
Message-ID<CD201936.968E6%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#38620


On 1/18/13 8:30 AM, in article
jollyroger-A9E5DD.06305418012013@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <CD1DE783.9682E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you
>> 'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms. Sadly, the
>> public school system failed us long ago in turning these skulls full of mush
>> into productive society members. I knew we could agee on something, LOL!
> 
> Oh shut the fuck up, George. My god... It's like the only way you can
> function is to constantly try to make every little issue into a
> political issue. Get this through your thick head: in this broken
> two-party system, BOTH parties are responsible for the mess this country
> (and to some extent the world) is in right now. Perhaps it's not a
> coincidence you started blabbing your mouth just as we started talking
> about maturity and adulthood. Frankly, your childish political posturing
> is tired, boring, and irritating. Do the rest of the world a favor and
> smoke a joint, for Christ sake.

Yeah, your wife was right...

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#38690

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2013-01-19 08:15 -0800
Message-ID<jollyroger-BDBCBC.08152019012013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#38685
In article <CD201936.968E6%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/18/13 8:30 AM, in article
> jollyroger-A9E5DD.06305418012013@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <CD1DE783.9682E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
> >  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you
> >> 'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms. Sadly, the
> >> public school system failed us long ago in turning these skulls full of 
> >> mush
> >> into productive society members. I knew we could agee on something, LOL!
> > 
> > Oh shut the fuck up, George. My god... It's like the only way you can
> > function is to constantly try to make every little issue into a
> > political issue. Get this through your thick head: in this broken
> > two-party system, BOTH parties are responsible for the mess this country
> > (and to some extent the world) is in right now. Perhaps it's not a
> > coincidence you started blabbing your mouth just as we started talking
> > about maturity and adulthood. Frankly, your childish political posturing
> > is tired, boring, and irritating. Do the rest of the world a favor and
> > smoke a joint, for Christ sake.
> 
> Yeah, your wife was right...

*PLONK*

Good riddance.

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#38724

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-01-20 10:21 -0600
Message-ID<CD2175A1.96A01%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#38690


On 1/19/13 10:15 AM, in article
jollyroger-BDBCBC.08152019012013@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <CD201936.968E6%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/18/13 8:30 AM, in article
>> jollyroger-A9E5DD.06305418012013@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <CD1DE783.9682E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>>>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Reasonable logic like that would only end up by LibTards calling you
>>>> 'racist', 'bigot' and 'Nazi', among other derogatory terms. Sadly, the
>>>> public school system failed us long ago in turning these skulls full of
>>>> mush
>>>> into productive society members. I knew we could agee on something, LOL!
>>> 
>>> Oh shut the fuck up, George. My god... It's like the only way you can
>>> function is to constantly try to make every little issue into a
>>> political issue. Get this through your thick head: in this broken
>>> two-party system, BOTH parties are responsible for the mess this country
>>> (and to some extent the world) is in right now. Perhaps it's not a
>>> coincidence you started blabbing your mouth just as we started talking
>>> about maturity and adulthood. Frankly, your childish political posturing
>>> is tired, boring, and irritating. Do the rest of the world a favor and
>>> smoke a joint, for Christ sake.
>> 
>> Yeah, your wife was right...
> 
> *PLONK*
> 
> Good riddance.

Maybe *YOU* are the one who needs to 'mellow'.

Damn, people who claim to be "understanding sure have short fuses and no
sense of humor, LOL!

Have a fattie on me, JR...

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#38729

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-01-20 11:08 -0800
Message-ID<2013012011084864641-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#38724
On 2013-01-20 16:21:21 +0000, George Kerby said:

>>> Yeah, your wife was right...
>> 
>> *PLONK*
>> 
>> Good riddance.
> 
> Maybe *YOU* are the one who needs to 'mellow'.

He IS!  Killfiling irritants is a direct approach to "mellow" by 
ridding life of another element of stench.

> Damn, people who claim to be "understanding sure have short fuses and no
> sense of humor, LOL!

It's a certain kind of person who brings another's wife into a 
political discussion and then whines that it was "humor". You're that 
kind of person. That's called the Rush Defense #1:  "I was kidding! 
Can't liberals see [racism/sexism/fascism/misinformation] as humor?"

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#38733

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-01-20 14:36 -0600
Message-ID<CD21B187.96A88%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#38729


On 1/20/13 1:08 PM, in article 2013012011084864641-xxx@yyyzzz, "gtr"
<xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2013-01-20 16:21:21 +0000, George Kerby said:
> 
>>>> Yeah, your wife was right...
>>> 
>>> *PLONK*
>>> 
>>> Good riddance.
>> 
>> Maybe *YOU* are the one who needs to 'mellow'.
> 
> He IS!  Killfiling irritants is a direct approach to "mellow" by
> ridding life of another element of stench.
> 
>> Damn, people who claim to be "understanding sure have short fuses and no
>> sense of humor, LOL!
> 
> It's a certain kind of person who brings another's wife into a
> political discussion and then whines that it was "humor". You're that
> kind of person. That's called the Rush Defense #1:  "I was kidding!
> Can't liberals see [racism/sexism/fascism/misinformation] as humor?"
> 

Try and pay attention: Just before that JR had posted something in another
thread about his wife saying that she thought that he was still a young boy
in many ways. My post simply was a *polite* way of telling him that perhaps
she was RIGHT. I consider that a polite way of answering the vile that he
threw at me in that thread. Read it. If I responded in turn to that childish
post in like manner, would YOU have felt better?!? Thought so.

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#38737

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-01-20 15:11 -0800
Message-ID<2013012015114841987-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#38733
On 2013-01-20 20:36:55 +0000, George Kerby said:

> Try and pay attention: Just before that JR had posted something in another
> thread about his wife saying that she thought that he was still a young boy
> in many ways.

You're reconfiguring facts into fallacy to make yourself look better 
and others worse.  That's Rush #2. Pretty shabby job too, I might add.

> My post simply was a *polite* way of telling him that perhaps she was 
> RIGHT. I consider that a polite way of answering the vile that he threw 
> at me in that thread.

Even shabbier. You were sticking your thumb in his eye, and used his 
wife to leverage it. As you know, he can say whatever he wants about 
his wife, mother and children; you cannot. This was just BAD FAITH 
engagement; intended it irritate and devoid of humor.

> If I responded in turn to that childish post in like manner, would YOU 
> have felt better?!?

False choice. I'll pass.

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#38738

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-01-20 18:56 -0600
Message-ID<CD21EE41.96A9D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#38737


On 1/20/13 5:11 PM, in article 2013012015114841987-xxx@yyyzzz, "gtr"
<xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2013-01-20 20:36:55 +0000, George Kerby said:
> 
>> Try and pay attention: Just before that JR had posted something in another
>> thread about his wife saying that she thought that he was still a young boy
>> in many ways.
> 
> You're reconfiguring facts into fallacy to make yourself look better
> and others worse.  That's Rush #2. Pretty shabby job too, I might add.
> 
And you are too dense to get beyond insults. Grow the fuck up, already.

>> My post simply was a *polite* way of telling him that perhaps she was
>> RIGHT. I consider that a polite way of answering the vile that he threw
>> at me in that thread.
> 
> Even shabbier. You were sticking your thumb in his eye, and used his
> wife to leverage it. As you know, he can say whatever he wants about
> his wife, mother and children; you cannot. This was just BAD FAITH
> engagement; intended it irritate and devoid of humor.
> 

WTF, are you, his Nanny?!?

No, YOU are completely devoid of ANY HUMOR. Just like most LibTards, all you
can do is sit around and worry about those nasty "Tea Baggers". Go worship
at the alter of Bill Mahar, the welsher, Miss Manners.

>> If I responded in turn to that childish post in like manner, would YOU
>> have felt better?!?
> 
> False choice. I'll pass.
> 

Dummy, that was a friggin' QUESTION, not a "choice". You are a special kind
of stupid, you couldn't pass a urine test. Sorry I asked.

But I am sure it makes your little inflated immature ego 'feel' SO MUCH
better, because in your distorted way of cognizing, you have forced me to go
off on you.

You came from nowhere, and that's where you will stay in my book.

So, now I will grant you my expressed permission for you to give what you
may think will be a 'snappy and clever' response. GO for it. NOW! I COMMAND
that you do so...




BTW: JR, you have a full-fledged Nanny watching over you who has NO sense of
humor. Apparently it was aborted at his birth and he has been a bitter
little man since. 

But, I want you to know that I meant no offence to you or your family. I
just thought that I would respond to your insults in a humorous
non-aggressive manner. I know everyone has a bad day, and I simply did not
want to respond to a long time acquaintance who may be having such, with a
typical Usenet response.

However, do what you may to rest your mind. What I said was in NO WAY
intended to insult you, even though it was a response to a particularly
nasty post on your part. I just wanted to get you to see that you were
behaving in such a manner.

'Nuff said.

I'm outta here. This thread is history as far as I'm concerned.

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