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Bean in 10.12

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  Bean in 10.12 William Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-23 15:33 -0700
    Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-25 07:04 +0200
      Re: Bean in 10.12 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-24 23:25 -0700
        Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-25 10:54 +0200
          Re: Bean in 10.12 ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-09-25 11:24 +0200
            Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-25 12:00 +0200
              Re: Bean in 10.12 ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-09-25 13:52 +0200
                Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-25 17:42 +0200
                  Re: Bean in 10.12 William Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 10:31 -0700
                    Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-26 04:55 +0200
                      Re: Bean in 10.12 William Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-02 16:05 -0700
          Re: Bean in 10.12 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-25 08:29 -0400
            Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-25 17:38 +0200
              Re: Bean in 10.12 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-25 13:00 -0400
              Re: Bean in 10.12 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-26 05:00 +0000
                Re: Bean in 10.12 ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-09-26 10:51 +0200
                  Re: Bean in 10.12 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-09-26 10:26 -0700
                    Re: Bean in 10.12 ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-09-26 20:41 +0200
                      Re: Bean in 10.12 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-09-26 14:41 -0700
                    Re: Bean in 10.12 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-27 01:11 +0000
    Re: Bean in 10.12 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-09-26 10:17 -0700
      Re: Bean in 10.12 cb <cb@aol.com> - 2016-09-27 11:45 +0200
        Re: Bean in 10.12 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-09-28 08:07 -0700
    Re: Bean in 10.12 William Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-24 16:00 -0700

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#94723 — Bean in 10.12

FromWilliam Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-09-23 15:33 -0700
SubjectBean in 10.12
Message-ID<230920161533304326%bill@invalid.invalid>
has anyone been able to get Bean (word processor) 
to work properly under 10.12?

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#94756

Fromcb <cb@aol.com>
Date2016-09-25 07:04 +0200
Message-ID<57e75ac1$0$5257$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#94723
Le 24/09/2016 00:33, William Hanna a écrit :
> has anyone been able to get Bean (word processor)
> to work properly under 10.12?
>
No. And since the developer stopped updating it a couple of years ago, 
I'd like to find a substitute. Any idea?

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#94757

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2016-09-24 23:25 -0700
Message-ID<2016092423253271950-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#94756
On 2016-09-25 05:04:01 +0000, cb <cb@aol.com> said:

> Le 24/09/2016 00:33, William Hanna a écrit :
>> has anyone been able to get Bean (word processor)
>> to work properly under 10.12?
>> 
> No. And since the developer stopped updating it a couple of years ago, 
> I'd like to find a substitute. Any idea?

Open the App Store and try a search for "word processor".

This results in quite a large number of suggestions. From there you are 
on your own as only you know what you really need, or are prepared to 
spend.



-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#94758

Fromcb <cb@aol.com>
Date2016-09-25 10:54 +0200
Message-ID<57e790cf$0$4311$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#94757
Le 25/09/2016 08:25, Savageduck a écrit :
> On 2016-09-25 05:04:01 +0000, cb <cb@aol.com> said:
>
>> Le 24/09/2016 00:33, William Hanna a écrit :
>>> has anyone been able to get Bean (word processor)
>>> to work properly under 10.12?
>>>
>> No. And since the developer stopped updating it a couple of years ago,
>> I'd like to find a substitute. Any idea?
>
> Open the App Store and try a search for "word processor".
>
> This results in quite a large number of suggestions. From there you are
> on your own as only you know what you really need, or are prepared to
> spend.
>
Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and 
lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on 
the app store.

>
>

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#94759

FromErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
Date2016-09-25 11:24 +0200
Message-ID<ns8559$g4f$1@solani.org>
In reply to#94758

cb wrote:
> Le 25/09/2016 08:25, Savageduck a écrit :
>> On 2016-09-25 05:04:01 +0000, cb <cb@aol.com> said:
>>> Le 24/09/2016 00:33, William Hanna a écrit :
>>>> has anyone been able to get Bean (word processor)
>>>> to work properly under 10.12?
>>>>
>>> No. And since the developer stopped updating it a couple of years ago,
>>> I'd like to find a substitute. Any idea?
>>
>> Open the App Store and try a search for "word processor".
>>
>> This results in quite a large number of suggestions. From there you are
>> on your own as only you know what you really need, or are prepared to
>> spend.
>
> Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and
> lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on
> the app store.

Which version of Bean are you using - 3.2.5, 3.1.1, 2.4.5? - I've 
noticed that there are some smaller issues running v.3.2.5 (on 64-bits 
MacPro) even on Lion, but v. 3.1.1 runs very fine.

<http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#94760

Fromcb <cb@aol.com>
Date2016-09-25 12:00 +0200
Message-ID<57e7a048$0$5283$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#94759
Le 25/09/2016 11:24, ErikRS a écrit :
>
>
> cb wrote:
>> Le 25/09/2016 08:25, Savageduck a écrit :
>>> On 2016-09-25 05:04:01 +0000, cb <cb@aol.com> said:
>>>> Le 24/09/2016 00:33, William Hanna a écrit :
>>>>> has anyone been able to get Bean (word processor)
>>>>> to work properly under 10.12?
>>>>>
>>>> No. And since the developer stopped updating it a couple of years ago,
>>>> I'd like to find a substitute. Any idea?
>>>
>>> Open the App Store and try a search for "word processor".
>>>
>>> This results in quite a large number of suggestions. From there you are
>>> on your own as only you know what you really need, or are prepared to
>>> spend.
>>
>> Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and
>> lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on
>> the app store.
>
> Which version of Bean are you using - 3.2.5, 3.1.1, 2.4.5? - I've
> noticed that there are some smaller issues running v.3.2.5 (on 64-bits
> MacPro) even on Lion, but v. 3.1.1 runs very fine.
>
> <http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>
>
> Cheers, Erik Richard
>
Thanks for the advice. I was running Bean 3.2.5 under El Capitan on a 
64-bit MBA mid-2012 and It was sailing smoothly until now. Will v3.1.1 
work on an intel processor?

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#94762

FromErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
Date2016-09-25 13:52 +0200
Message-ID<ns8dq9$mk8$1@solani.org>
In reply to#94760

cb wrote:
> Le 25/09/2016 11:24, ErikRS a écrit :
>> Which version of Bean are you using - 3.2.5, 3.1.1, 2.4.5? - I've
>> noticed that there are some smaller issues running v.3.2.5 (on 64-bits
>> MacPro) even on Lion, but v. 3.1.1 runs very fine.
>>
>> <http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I was running Bean 3.2.5 under El Capitan on a
> 64-bit MBA mid-2012 and It was sailing smoothly until now. Will v3.1.1
> work on an intel processor?

Yes, I've run it on my two MacPros without problems. Like v.3.2.5, 
v.3.1.1 is Intel-only. Version 2.4.5 is both Intel+PPC (UB) and it might 
also run under the new Sierra. I know from a friend that it runs fine on 
a MBP i7 running Mavericks.

I do indeed like Bean as - at least - a substitude for TextEdit but also 
as a small and lightweight text-/wordprocessor for the quick works.

Another one may be the Lightway iText Express which has many of the same 
features as Bean, but iText Express is also a real text editor / text 
processor with some specific features for a.m.o. HTML writing...

<http://www.jp-lightway.com/iText/iTextExpress/TryiTxtExp.html>

There are two versions - iText Express (freeware) and iText Pro 09 
(shareware). Both versions are 'Universal Binary' (UB), and you can find 
both on AppStore...

<http://www.jp-lightway.com/appstore/english/iTextExpress/>

Cheers, Erik Richard
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#94768

Fromcb <cb@aol.com>
Date2016-09-25 17:42 +0200
Message-ID<57e7f064$0$3326$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#94762
Le 25/09/2016 13:52, ErikRS a écrit :
>
>
> cb wrote:
>> Le 25/09/2016 11:24, ErikRS a écrit :
>>> Which version of Bean are you using - 3.2.5, 3.1.1, 2.4.5? - I've
>>> noticed that there are some smaller issues running v.3.2.5 (on 64-bits
>>> MacPro) even on Lion, but v. 3.1.1 runs very fine.
>>>
>>> <http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>
>>
>> Thanks for the advice. I was running Bean 3.2.5 under El Capitan on a
>> 64-bit MBA mid-2012 and It was sailing smoothly until now. Will v3.1.1
>> work on an intel processor?
>
> Yes, I've run it on my two MacPros without problems. Like v.3.2.5,
> v.3.1.1 is Intel-only. Version 2.4.5 is both Intel+PPC (UB) and it might
> also run under the new Sierra. I know from a friend that it runs fine on
> a MBP i7 running Mavericks.
>
> I do indeed like Bean as - at least - a substitude for TextEdit but also
> as a small and lightweight text-/wordprocessor for the quick works.
>
> Another one may be the Lightway iText Express which has many of the same
> features as Bean, but iText Express is also a real text editor / text
> processor with some specific features for a.m.o. HTML writing...
>
> <http://www.jp-lightway.com/iText/iTextExpress/TryiTxtExp.html>
>
> There are two versions - iText Express (freeware) and iText Pro 09
> (shareware). Both versions are 'Universal Binary' (UB), and you can find
> both on AppStore...
>
> <http://www.jp-lightway.com/appstore/english/iTextExpress/>
>
> Cheers, Erik Richard
thanks Erik. In the meantime I tried Bean v.1.1.0 and it works like a 
charm on my MBA running Sierra. I will also check iTextExprress. :-)

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#94770

FromWilliam Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-09-25 10:31 -0700
Message-ID<250920161031434373%bill@invalid.invalid>
In reply to#94768
In article <57e7f064$0$3326$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, cb <cb@aol.com>
wrote:

> Le 25/09/2016 13:52, ErikRS a écrit :
> >
> >
> > cb wrote:
> >> Le 25/09/2016 11:24, ErikRS a écrit :
> >>> Which version of Bean are you using - 3.2.5, 3.1.1, 2.4.5? - I've
> >>> noticed that there are some smaller issues running v.3.2.5 (on 64-bits
> >>> MacPro) even on Lion, but v. 3.1.1 runs very fine.
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the advice. I was running Bean 3.2.5 under El Capitan on a
> >> 64-bit MBA mid-2012 and It was sailing smoothly until now. Will v3.1.1
> >> work on an intel processor?
> >
> > Yes, I've run it on my two MacPros without problems. Like v.3.2.5,
> > v.3.1.1 is Intel-only. Version 2.4.5 is both Intel+PPC (UB) and it might
> > also run under the new Sierra. I know from a friend that it runs fine on
> > a MBP i7 running Mavericks.
> >
> > I do indeed like Bean as - at least - a substitude for TextEdit but also
> > as a small and lightweight text-/wordprocessor for the quick works.
> >
> > Another one may be the Lightway iText Express which has many of the same
> > features as Bean, but iText Express is also a real text editor / text
> > processor with some specific features for a.m.o. HTML writing...
> >
> > <http://www.jp-lightway.com/iText/iTextExpress/TryiTxtExp.html>
> >
> > There are two versions - iText Express (freeware) and iText Pro 09
> > (shareware). Both versions are 'Universal Binary' (UB), and you can find
> > both on AppStore...
> >
> > <http://www.jp-lightway.com/appstore/english/iTextExpress/>
> >
> > Cheers, Erik Richard
> thanks Erik. In the meantime I tried Bean v.1.1.0 and it works like a 
> charm on my MBA running Sierra. I will also check iTextExprress. :-)


where can i get Bean v.1.1.0?

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#94793

Fromcb <cb@aol.com>
Date2016-09-26 04:55 +0200
Message-ID<57e88e18$0$24780$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#94770
Le 25/09/2016 19:31, William Hanna a écrit :
> In article <57e7f064$0$3326$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, cb <cb@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Le 25/09/2016 13:52, ErikRS a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> cb wrote:
>>>> Le 25/09/2016 11:24, ErikRS a écrit :
>>>>> Which version of Bean are you using - 3.2.5, 3.1.1, 2.4.5? - I've
>>>>> noticed that there are some smaller issues running v.3.2.5 (on 64-bits
>>>>> MacPro) even on Lion, but v. 3.1.1 runs very fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the advice. I was running Bean 3.2.5 under El Capitan on a
>>>> 64-bit MBA mid-2012 and It was sailing smoothly until now. Will v3.1.1
>>>> work on an intel processor?
>>>
>>> Yes, I've run it on my two MacPros without problems. Like v.3.2.5,
>>> v.3.1.1 is Intel-only. Version 2.4.5 is both Intel+PPC (UB) and it might
>>> also run under the new Sierra. I know from a friend that it runs fine on
>>> a MBP i7 running Mavericks.
>>>
>>> I do indeed like Bean as - at least - a substitude for TextEdit but also
>>> as a small and lightweight text-/wordprocessor for the quick works.
>>>
>>> Another one may be the Lightway iText Express which has many of the same
>>> features as Bean, but iText Express is also a real text editor / text
>>> processor with some specific features for a.m.o. HTML writing...
>>>
>>> <http://www.jp-lightway.com/iText/iTextExpress/TryiTxtExp.html>
>>>
>>> There are two versions - iText Express (freeware) and iText Pro 09
>>> (shareware). Both versions are 'Universal Binary' (UB), and you can find
>>> both on AppStore...
>>>
>>> <http://www.jp-lightway.com/appstore/english/iTextExpress/>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Erik RichardhiH
>> thanks Erik. In the meantime I tried Bean v.1.1.0 and it works like a
>> charm on my MBA running Sierra. I will also check iTextExprress. :-)
>
>
> where can i get Bean v.1.1.0?
>
Hi! There is a link called "previous versions" on Bean home page:

<http://www.bean-osx.com/releases/>

HTH

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#95087

FromWilliam Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-02 16:05 -0700
Message-ID<021020161605391726%bill@invalid.invalid>
In reply to#94793


> > where can i get Bean v.1.1.0?
> >
> Hi! There is a link called "previous versions" on Bean home page:
> 
> <http://www.bean-osx.com/releases/>
> 
> HTH


thanks

it appears that Bean 2.4.5 works with sierra

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#94763

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-09-25 08:29 -0400
Message-ID<GMudnZ-vyfWsXnrKnZ2dnUU7-dWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#94758
On 2016-09-25 04:54, cb wrote:

> Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and
> lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on
> the app store.

What's wrong with Pages?

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#94767

Fromcb <cb@aol.com>
Date2016-09-25 17:38 +0200
Message-ID<57e7ef61$0$5424$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#94763
Le 25/09/2016 14:29, Alan Browne a écrit :
> On 2016-09-25 04:54, cb wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and
>> lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on
>> the app store.
>
> What's wrong with Pages?
>
It's not exactly lightweight, is it?

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#94769

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-09-25 13:00 -0400
Message-ID<4MednS0drbIjn3XKnZ2dnUU7-VfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#94767
On 2016-09-25 11:38, cb wrote:
> Le 25/09/2016 14:29, Alan Browne a écrit :
>> On 2016-09-25 04:54, cb wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and
>>> lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on
>>> the app store.
>>
>> What's wrong with Pages?
>>
> It's not exactly lightweight, is it?

How light do you need?  Text only?  It does it.

As to how heavy it is, if you're running Sierra, then it can't be too 
heavy for the processor.

As to UI it's pretty clean.

(Personally Pages is too light for me - though composing with graphic 
add ins is easier/faster than MS Word - so I do that in Pages and then 
export it to Word).

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#94799

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-09-26 05:00 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnuhark.glt.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#94767
In message <57e7ef61$0$5424$426a34cc@news.free.fr> 
  cb <cb@aol.com> wrote:
> Le 25/09/2016 14:29, Alan Browne a écrit :
>> On 2016-09-25 04:54, cb wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip. I know I'm greedy, but I wanted a free and
>>> lightweight substitute for Bean. Couldn't find anything of the kind on
>>> the app store.
>>
>> What's wrong with Pages?
>>
> It's not exactly lightweight, is it?

Isn't it? It's pretty small, very fast (to launch and use), works
across Mac and iOS and Web, and is free*. I suppose it depends how you
define lightweight.

TextEdit is a very good lightweight word processor. Much more capable
than most people realize, but then it's a mater of what you need.

I used to use Nisus, and I now it's still getting updates. There's also
Scrivner. But again, depends on what you need.

* For anyone who's bought a Mac or iOS device in the last... um.. 7
years?


-- 
Blatant mistakes are the best kind. — John W Baxter

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#94803

FromErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
Date2016-09-26 10:51 +0200
Message-ID<nsanj3$535$1@solani.org>
In reply to#94799

Lewis wrote:
> cb <cb@aol.com> wrote:
>>> What's wrong with Pages?
>>
>> It's not exactly lightweight, is it?
>
> Isn't it? It's pretty small, very fast (to launch and use), works
> across Mac and iOS and Web, and is free*. I suppose it depends how you
> define lightweight.
>
> TextEdit is a very good lightweight word processor. Much more capable
> than most people realize, but then it's a mater of what you need.
>
> I used to use Nisus, and I now it's still getting updates. There's also
> Scrivner. But again, depends on what you need.
>
> * For anyone who's bought a Mac or iOS device in the last... um.. 7
> years?

I don't like Pages either. I've been forced to use it for some special 
work like translating a huge user manual. It was such a disaster to work 
with that I've totally given up using it - except for that specific work.

I've been using NisusWriter since way back in 1994 - now on NW Pro 2.x 
and I find it and regard it as one of the best word processors ever made 
for Mac... Alone the feature that NWP works with inline graphics in RTF 
files is a real great feature. - And for PC users to use such files it's 
just to rename '.rtf' to '.doc' - then any graphics are kept correctly.:-)

And of course the capabilities of working in multiple languages and type 
sets is another main feature. - Here NWP (and NisusWriter Express) along 
with Mellel are the two only fully enhanced text-/word processors that 
are capable of making such complex writings.

I agree that using NWP, NWE or Mellel as a replacement for TextEdit is 
far beyond reasonability. - Here is it that Bean can step in and enhance 
functionalities that TextEdit can't do. - Infact TextEdit is only a 
major upgrade to the old SimpleText from OS 9.x. Well maybe more correct 
to say TextEdit is an upgrade to the app WorldText included in the 
developer kits...

The fastest and most stable and yet real powerful version of Bean is the 
v.2.4.5 which I still prefer towards v.3.1.1 and 3.2.5 though those two 
versions are so much enhanced that you no longer can call it a 
'replacement' for TextEdit, but is a real small and powerful fully 
enhanced word processor with text editing features.

Yes, it hasn't been updated since 2013, but why "fix anything if it 
ain't broke"? - Also earlier versions came out with long intervals. - I 
don't know, but I think he only releases new versions when the new main 
OS has been so much re-written that it will require a main upgrade of 
one or more applications.

So maybe it would be time now for the developer to make a new main 
upgrade of Bean to - let's say a version 3.5.:-)

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#94805

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2016-09-26 10:26 -0700
Message-ID<201609261026117541-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#94803
On 2016-09-26 08:51:47 +0000, ErikRS said:

> I've been using NisusWriter since way back in 1994 - now on NW Pro 2.x 
> and I find it and regard it as one of the best word processors ever 
> made for Mac... Alone the feature that NWP works with inline graphics 
> in RTF files is a real great feature. - And for PC users to use such 
> files it's just to rename '.rtf' to '.doc' - then any graphics are kept 
> correctly.:-)

I had NisusWriter at some time in the past (among another 30-40 such 
programs across 3 platforms) and was thoroughly unimpressed. I know it 
does have incredibly loyal fans.  I don't need compatibility with PC 
users, and don't use but the single language 95% of the time.

I've never had a disaster or quazi-disaster with the $20 Pages program, 
just the opposite; I find it incredibly easy to work with in myriad 
circumstances.

I assume that most people, once they learn the ins and outs of a word 
processor, become loyalists. I suppose I've learned so many of them, I 
don't really have a lot of complaints about any of them: 30 years ago 
they were a total misery; the lot of them.


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#94810

FromErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
Date2016-09-26 20:41 +0200
Message-ID<nsbq4u$tde$1@solani.org>
In reply to#94805
gtr wrote:
> I had NisusWriter at some time in the past (among another 30-40 such
> programs across 3 platforms) and was thoroughly unimpressed. I know it
> does have incredibly loyal fans.  I don't need compatibility with PC
> users, and don't use but the single language 95% of the time.

Well, I won't call myself an incredibly loyal fan, but I've through the 
years found that - first classic NisusWriter and later the NWE and now 
NWP is the best tool for writing even very complex text documents.

When I bought my first Mac - a PowerBook 165 (still working fine) it was 
delievered with - in my opinion - one of the best ever made word 
processors of all time - the Microsoft Word 5.1a for Mac. When going PPC 
I switched to Word 6.x, but rather soon found that it was quite a 
disaster to work with in complex writings, so I switched to NisusWriter 
4.1.6. This word processor can do anything that MSWD 5.1a can + much 
more when it comes to complex multi-lingual texts.

Since then I've stayed with NisusWriter though I also have quite a few 
other word processors like MSOffice 2008, Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x, 
Mellel, LibreOffice, Pages, MarinerWrite etc., Each of my computers are 
set up in a local network with KVM for specific work, so if I need to 
use other word processors than NWP I just turn the one on with the 
needed software.

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
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#94817

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2016-09-26 14:41 -0700
Message-ID<2016092614415764925-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#94810
On 2016-09-26 18:41:34 +0000, ErikRS said:

> 
> gtr wrote:
>> I had NisusWriter at some time in the past (among another 30-40 such
>> programs across 3 platforms) and was thoroughly unimpressed. I know it
>> does have incredibly loyal fans.  I don't need compatibility with PC
>> users, and don't use but the single language 95% of the time.
> 
> Well, I won't call myself an incredibly loyal fan, but I've through the 
> years found that - first classic NisusWriter and later the NWE and now 
> NWP is the best tool for writing even very complex text documents.
> 
> When I bought my first Mac - a PowerBook 165...

Me too!

> ...(still working fine)...

Mine died 15-18 years ago, a handful of pixels at a time...

> ...it was delievered with - in my opinion - one of the best ever made 
> word processors of all time - the Microsoft Word 5.1a for Mac. When 
> going PPC I switched to Word 6.x, but rather soon found that it was 
> quite a disaster to work with in complex writings, so I switched to 
> NisusWriter 4.1.6. This word processor can do anything that MSWD 5.1a 
> can + much more when it comes to complex multi-lingual texts.

In the mid-80's I *loved* WordPerfect. And also liked early versions of 
MS Word, but those years are far far away.

> Since then I've stayed with NisusWriter though I also have quite a few 
> other word processors like MSOffice 2008, Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x, 
> Mellel, LibreOffice, Pages, MarinerWrite etc., Each of my computers are 
> set up in a local network with KVM for specific work, so if I need to 
> use other word processors than NWP I just turn the one on with the 
> needed software.

That sounds not dissimilar to my world in 2009.  In 2010 I jettisoned 
all such work, and the related platforms.  Since then, Pages, TextEdit 
and DevonTHINK are all I need for about 85% of my wordprocessing needs. 
On some rare occasions I'll use Scrivener, MacJournal, Montage and 
TextWrangler.  I have another batch of them, but they never get any use.

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#94826

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2016-09-27 01:11 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnujhps.jfj.g.kreme@snow.local>
In reply to#94805
In message <201609261026117541-xxx@yyyzzz> 
  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-09-26 08:51:47 +0000, ErikRS said:

>> I've been using NisusWriter since way back in 1994 - now on NW Pro 2.x 
>> and I find it and regard it as one of the best word processors ever 
>> made for Mac... Alone the feature that NWP works with inline graphics 
>> in RTF files is a real great feature. - And for PC users to use such 
>> files it's just to rename '.rtf' to '.doc' - then any graphics are kept 
>> correctly.:-)

> I had NisusWriter at some time in the past (among another 30-40 such 
> programs across 3 platforms) and was thoroughly unimpressed. I know it 
> does have incredibly loyal fans.  I don't need compatibility with PC 
> users, and don't use but the single language 95% of the time.

If I had any use for a Word Processor I'd probably still be using
Nisus. It's very good, but does a very good job of appearing simple.

> I've never had a disaster or quazi-disaster with the $20 Pages program, 
> just the opposite; I find it incredibly easy to work with in myriad 
> circumstances.

I very occasionally use Pages and never have any problems with it. One
thing I like is I don't have to remember how to do anything, it's very
logically laid out and I can find whatever I'm looking for quickly
without hunting through various menus and palettes.

-- 
'Now what?' it said. IT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S ALWAYS UP TO YOU. --Maskerade

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