Re: A good thing or a bad thing

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
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Subject	Re: A good thing or a bad thing
Date	2025-04-12 01:01 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:49:38 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote :


>>How is it a "bit of a pita" when every APK you installed is always
>>automatically saved to your Windows PC (as Android is mounted as a drive)?
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mnt as drive letter
> 
> I think you misunderstood me. Let me give an example. I'm now posting using
>  an Amazon Fire HD10 tablet. It came with the Amazon Appstore. I have since
>  installed Google stuff on it and thus it also has the Play Store. Both
>  stores came set to automatically update apps.

Oh. I'm sorry. You're right. I don't use a newsreader so I don't know whom
I'm speaking with (unless I specifically look at the attribute line). 

I thought you were the guy who was trying to claim that Android APKs are
done similarly to iOS IPAs, which put me in a bad mood responding to him.

I apologize for being a dolt. 

> So when I install an old preferred apk version of a still available (in the
>  stores) app on this tablet it wouldn't stay old long because one of the
>  stores would automatically update it to the current version.

Yup. I agree. Your observation of what happens is likely what happens to
most people, and, in fact, my wife drives me nuts because I put the last
known good version of PulseSMS on her phone and she lets it update!

Obviously I don't even have the Google Play Store app on my phone, so any
update that it might do, it can't do - simply because it doesn't exist. :)

But I do have the FOSS Google Play Store apps, which will update by default
(so obviously I turn that off for the reasons you so helpfully explained).

> So I've turned off auto-updating in both stores. The PITA is that I now have
>  to periodically check both stores and manually update the other apps that
>  do need updates... 

Yes. I agree. Although there _is_ a solution which most people don't know.
That solution is NOT intuitive. It's completely unintuitive in fact.

Actually, what I'm going to tell you only one in a million people (my
estimate) have any inkling of - and I only know it because I'm not the kind
of guy that assumes things so I only know it because I *tested* it out.

On Android, the Google Play Store app has a checkbox to "update apps" but
in reality, it updates almost nothing. Yup. Almost nothing. 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/HsXKj7WK/updateallapps01.jpg>
 <https://i.postimg.cc/4djB69pr/updateallapps02.jpg>
 <https://i.postimg.cc/02xKj04h/updateallapps03.jpg>
 <https://i.postimg.cc/3xxyCJYB/updateallapps04.jpg>

The funny thing is it does that update of almost nothing without you even
being logged into a Google Account on your phone. Ask me how I know that.

There are threads on this where I tested the Google App Store update
against "real" updaters, and the difference was completely shocking.

The real updaters go onto the Google Play Store repository and for every
app that has an update, they give you a GUI that you can update it. 

If you want to update it.
You don't have to. 

But what's SHOCKING different is the Google Play Store update mechanism is
shocking deficient. It's so bad I'd assess it at almost totally worthless.

Even the Apple Play Store update mechanism is better than that of Google.

In summary, and this is *important* because everyone "assumes"
(incorrectly) that the Google Play Store "update" mechanism will update all
your apps that have available updates in the Google Play repo.

It does not.
It's not even close.

You can see that easily by running two steps that I've run so I know this.
1. Update using the Google Play Store update mechanism, and then,
2. Run a real updater.

You'll be shocked at the differences (hundreds of updates are missing!).

Not to give you too much information, but there are updaters and there are
updaters, where some updaters actually look at other repositories, while
other updaters only look at the Google Play Store repository. 

Here are some from my notes... if you're interested in checking them out.
1. Obtainium <https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium>
   GitHub, GitLab, SourceForge, F-Droid, IzzyOnDroid, 
   APKPure, Aptoide, Uptodown, APKMirror (Track-Only), etc.
2. APK Updater <https://github.com/rumboalla/apkupdater>
   GitHub, GitLab, F-Droid, APKPure, Aptoide, APKMirror, IzzyOnDroid, etc.
3. App Updater <com.update.software.updateallapps> (has ads)
   Google Play Store repository

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                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-14 15:48 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-14 22:01 +0200
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                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-16 20:53 +1000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-16 08:28 -0400
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:26 -0700
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-16 23:10 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 14:41 -0700
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-16 17:54 -0500
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:52 -0700
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-16 17:24 -0400
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:52 -0700
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 01:15 -0400
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 23:45 -0700
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 08:26 -0400
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 11:08 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 09:01 -0400
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 21:43 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:25 -0700
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-14 21:56 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 00:26 +0000
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                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-14 21:22 -0500
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                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 20:58 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-11 09:39 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 09:45 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:29 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-09 15:35 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 21:21 +0000
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                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-11 17:32 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 18:51 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 03:32 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-14 05:07 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 18:36 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-12 01:01 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-06 13:18 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-07 09:45 +1200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 21:28 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 17:39 -0500
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 08:02 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-10 13:06 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 19:10 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-10 21:35 +0200
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 23:15 +0000
                Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-05 22:57 +0000

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