Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices

From	Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices
Date	2020-11-25 14:59 +0000
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In message <1etvH.49362$J92.45030@fx48.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2020-11-24 17:16, Ant wrote:
>> Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> Integration is not so beneficial for desktops and gaming rigs. Ability
>>>> to choose, configure your sustem is a HUGE thing for that market. Apple
>>>> will offer one solution with 1 GPU, 1 CPU and 1 or 2 RAM options.
>> 
>>> Gaming rigs is not Apple's main market.  Desktops remain to be seen in
>>> terms of configuration.
>> 
>> Speaking of gaming, why is it bad in Mac?

> It's not bad in Mac.

It really is. The GPUs on the Mac are designed for real work and not
designed for game FPS, which is all most gamers care about. "What do you
mean I can't run this at 140fps on 4K? FUC YOU."

> But.

> The gaming world grew where the market was largest and that is Windows 
> PC's by far back 20 years ago when Apple had a very slim slice of the PC 
> market.

> Gamers could easily customize and upgrade their rigs every few months if 
> they cared to as new processors, GPU's etc, came out.  And relatively 
> cheaply.  The "PC" was just a skelton holding the latest configuration.

> Now as GPU's become more and more commoditized, that distinction will 
> wane and game makers will be able to hop OS' more and more easily.

There is also the fact that nvidia had such a lead in GPU performance
and forced a custom CUDA API on game developers, making it even harder to
migrate to other GPUs, and Microsoft was doing much the same thing with
DirectX, both in an effort to control the gamin market.

The GPU performance on the new low-end Macs is stellar, however. The one
game I still play occasionally is World of Warcraft and on my 2018 mini
I can get 30-40 FPS if I turn down the settings to around the "3" preset
level. On the M1 Mac mini, it will get 40-50fps at graphics level 10
(the maximum), and that was tested BEFORE Blizzard released the M1 native
client.

I will get much better FPS than that since I do not actually like the
game at maximum settings, and some of the settings I turn off (Ground
clutter is one) make a dramatic impact on performance.

My Laptop has arrive in town, but FedEx is showing estimated delivery of
Monday. grmbl.

-- 
The trouble with being a god is that you've got no one to pray to.

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                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-27 17:21 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-27 05:36 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-27 18:07 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-27 10:23 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-27 19:37 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-27 20:10 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-27 22:34 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-27 20:00 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-28 05:49 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-28 16:52 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-28 20:36 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 05:16 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-28 00:47 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-28 20:33 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-28 22:35 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 05:20 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 01:09 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 12:09 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 15:46 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-29 13:32 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 21:50 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 09:17 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-28 21:02 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-28 22:35 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 05:25 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 09:14 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 09:20 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-27 17:27 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-27 22:41 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-27 20:24 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-28 16:53 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-28 20:14 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-28 20:16 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-28 18:33 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 05:08 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 01:04 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-28 22:45 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 11:59 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 15:33 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-29 13:30 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 00:39 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-30 00:10 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 21:48 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 17:15 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 22:31 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 00:42 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-30 00:10 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 05:03 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-30 02:31 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-30 17:41 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-28 05:34 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-28 16:54 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-28 03:40 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-28 19:15 +1300
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-28 01:51 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-28 08:18 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-29 10:05 +1300
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 09:10 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-28 20:38 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-28 18:35 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-29 18:21 +1300
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 00:47 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 08:55 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 15:48 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 16:16 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-29 13:28 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-30 15:29 +1300
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 00:38 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-30 13:17 +0000
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-27 14:18 +1300
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-26 17:41 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-27 10:34 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-26 11:04 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-25 15:19 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-25 13:27 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-25 19:47 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-25 20:15 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 16:18 -0800
              Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 13:35 -0500
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-11-20 20:22 -0800
                Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:52 -0500
    Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch   MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2020-11-15 17:00 -0800

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