Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple.

From	Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple.
Date	2020-11-22 01:38 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnrrjg8f.169p.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> (permalink)
References	(2 earlier) <slrnrrilp6.1gq.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> <chine.bleu-9AE19A.10325521112020@reader.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.2569A7220086F3C670000454438F@news.supernews.com> <chine.bleu-91F3C8.13161221112020@reader.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.2569C506008DF53470000454438F@news.supernews.com>

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In message <0001HW.2569C506008DF53470000454438F@news.supernews.com> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2020, Siri Cruise wrote
> (in article<chine.bleu-91F3C8.13161221112020@reader.eternal-september.org>):

>> In article
>> <0001HW.2569A7220086F3C670000454438F@news.supernews.com>,
>> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
>>
>> > On 21 Nov 2020, Siri Cruise wrote
>> > (in article<chine.bleu-9AE19A.10325521112020@reader.eternal-september.org>):
>> >
>> > > In article<slrnrrilp6.1gq.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>,
>> > > Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In message<GCbuH.24700$sW6.3334@fx47.iad>  Alan Browne
>> > > > <bitbucket@blackhole.com>  wrote:
>> > > > > On 2020-11-21 02:17, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> > > > > > So I was using Xcode 11 to build 10.15 on 10.15, and I see Xcode
>> > > > > > 12 and think maybe I cross compile for 11.0 while still building
>> > > > > > 10.15. Xcode 12 installs in gives the 10.15 SDK an acid bath so I
>> > > > > > lose the ability the ability to build 10.15 on 10.15 until I can
>> > > > > > find and download a replacement 10.15 SDK.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Please elaborate.
>> > > >
>> > > > XCode 12 requires Catalina 10.15.4.
>> > > >
>> > > > At least one of the betas had some issues on Catalina, but the release
>> > > > version definitely works on 10.15.4. I have no idea what the
>> > > > Scientologist is talking about.
>> > >
>> > > So do you know what an SDK is yet? Do you need instructions?
>> > >
>> > > Before XCode 12
>> > >
>> > > ls /Applications/Xcode.app/.../MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs
>> > > MacOSX.sdk MacOSX10.15.sdk
>> > >
>> > > I can compile to 10.15. Which is useful since I'm running 10.15.
>> > >
>> > > After XCode 12
>> > >
>> > > ls /Applications/Xcode.app/.../MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs
>> > > DriverKit20.0.sdk MacOSX.sdk MacOSX11.0.sdk
>> > >
>> > > I can no longer compile to 10.15 because Apple deleted
>> > > MacOSX10.15.sdk. How rude.
>> > >
>> > > I have to hunt for MacOSX10.15.sdk on the interpipes to repair
>> > > the Xcode 12 installer's damage. (Because Apple doesn't supply
>> > > them any longer.)
>> > >
>> > > After repairing Apple's elegance
>> > >
>> > > ls /Applications/Xcode.app/.../MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs
>> > > DriverKit20.0.sdk MacOSX.sdk
>> > > MacOSX10.15.sdk MacOSX11.0.sdk
>> > >
>> > > I can again compile 10.15 on 10.15. I haven't tried 11.0 yet
>> > > because it's not yet dire and I'm still fixing 10.15's recent
>> > > crap like -Wno-nullability-completeness.
>> >
>> > That’s interesting. This Mac mini 2012 can’t go to Big Sur. It’s
>> > currently at 10.15.7. My copy of XCode is 12.2. It certainly appears to work
>> > on this machine.
>>
>> You should be able to compile for 10.7 if you have a
>> MacOSX10.7.sdk in the SDKs folder. It's not nice of Apple to
>> remove .sdks without asking.

> I have no problems with XCode 12.2.

> I suspect that, as you are the only one who has problems, you did something 
> silly.

Yep.

> XCode 12.2 compiles old code going back to OS X 10.12 by actual test. I 
> haven’t got older stuff immediately available, and have very little 
> incentive to dig older code out.

It has no problem with 10.15 at all. "Siri" obviously has either
screwed something up or has a fundamental misunderstanding.

> You need to fix whatever it was that you did.

But instead I predict s/he will continue to complain about how Apple
delete something.


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Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-20 23:17 -0800
  Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:53 -0500
    Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 18:06 +0000
      Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 13:32 -0500
      Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 10:32 -0800
        Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-21 19:39 +0000
          Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:17 -0800
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 16:31 +0000
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 10:04 -0800
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 18:12 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 10:59 -0800
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 19:38 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-22 19:11 +0000
        Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-11-21 14:50 -0500
          Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:16 -0800
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-11-21 16:58 -0500
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-22 01:38 +0000
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 16:38 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-22 17:27 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 17:42 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-22 17:54 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 10:03 -0800
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-22 19:07 +0000
        Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 21:10 +0000
          Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:13 -0800
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 21:27 +0000
        Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-21 23:36 +0000
          Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 15:57 -0800
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 17:10 +0000
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-22 17:25 +0000
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2020-11-22 18:05 +0000
      Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 18:44 +0000
        Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 11:06 -0800
          Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 19:23 +0000
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:20 -0800
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 21:37 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:53 -0800
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 22:11 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 15:20 -0800
                [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-11-21 23:50 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 16:43 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-22 23:36 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 17:44 -0800
          Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 21:12 +0000
            Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 21:37 +0000
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:57 -0800
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 22:01 +0000
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 15:03 -0800
                Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-21 23:58 +0000
                [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-22 14:41 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 10:01 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-22 22:39 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-22 23:36 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 15:54 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-23 00:11 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 17:34 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-23 01:46 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 17:51 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. invalid@invalid.invalid (Ïnvalid $yntax) - 2020-11-23 02:03 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 18:25 -0800
              Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-22 01:34 +0000
  Re: Oh, that was smooth, Apple. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-21 18:27 +0000

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