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Re: New file system ?

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: New file system ?
Date	2017-03-07 09:30 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnobsvi9.130p.g.kreme@snow.local> (permalink)
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In message <1n2j4hk.1hrvglz1anuqovN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Yes, and how APFS will implement Fusion drives is not documented, so I'm
> not interested in debating speculation about how it might work.

Isn't APFS moving to a "pool" model where a single volume can span
multiple drives and support multiple file systems?

> Fusion drives have nothing to do with RAID. That feature is currently
> implemented via Core Storage as a logical volume spanning two physical
> volumes.

I think that every volume in APFS is a logical volume and it may
comprise part of a single drive, or even a share space of a single drive,
or span multiple drives.

> Apple said they are planning a release in 2017, which might turn out to
> be the next major version of macOS, or a later minor version of Sierra.

And I forgot they specifically said they planned to release it as a
BOOTABLE file system in 2017. I suppose they could count iOS, but it
sounds like they fully intend for Macs to boot it this year.

> We don't know yet which one Apple is planning. We will definitely know
> more during WWDC (June) if not before then.

Yep, WWDC should be a feast for file system nerds.

> Until we know the timing and more details about the remaining features,
> there is no point debating what features older OS versions might get.

I am pretty sure that 10.11 will get APFS and that no other OS will.
Since 10.11 did not obsolete any hardware it is sensible for Apple to
set it as the "You must be this tall to ride" bar.

-- 
It was easy to be a vegetarian by day. It was preventing yourself from
becoming a humanitarian at night that took the real effort.

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New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-04 03:08 -0500
  Re: New file system ? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-03-04 08:23 +0000
  Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-04 21:44 +1300
    Re: New file system ? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2017-03-04 13:46 +0000
    Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 14:29 +0000
    Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-04 13:31 -0500
      Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-05 12:31 +1300
        Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-05 13:03 -0500
          Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 18:24 +0000
          Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-07 12:52 +1300
            Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-06 23:51 -0500
              Re: New file system ? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-03-06 22:56 -0700
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 15:51 +0000
              Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-07 20:05 +1300
                Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-07 09:30 +0000
                Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-07 23:40 +1300
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:23 -0500
                Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-07 15:29 -0500
                Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-08 10:01 +1300
                Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-07 21:53 +0000
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 21:58 +0000
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-07 17:27 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-07 14:43 -0800
                Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-08 11:58 +1300
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 23:01 +0000
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 23:53 +0000
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-08 19:41 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-08 16:43 -0800
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-09 00:44 +0000
                Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-09 14:37 +1300
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-08 21:07 -0500
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-08 21:09 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-08 18:10 -0800
                Re: New file system ? michaelunowho@gmail.com - 2017-03-19 13:24 -0700
                Re: New file system ? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-09 16:16 +1300
                Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-08 06:48 +0000
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:17 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-07 12:22 -0800
                Re: New file system ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:24 -0500
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:33 -0500
                Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-07 15:35 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-07 12:35 -0800
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:42 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:48 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-07 12:53 -0800
                Re: New file system ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-07 15:47 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-07 21:51 +0000
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 22:03 +0000
                Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-07 21:51 +0000
                Re: New file system ? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-03-07 15:00 -0700
                Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-07 17:30 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-03-07 14:43 -0800
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 23:01 +0000
                Re: New file system ? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-03-07 17:04 -0700
              Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-07 15:53 +0000
          Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-07 09:18 +0000
      Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 00:24 +0000
      Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 00:55 +0000
        Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 19:59 -0500
          Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 02:34 +0000
            Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 22:13 -0500
              Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 06:03 +0000
                Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-05 02:34 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 14:51 +0000
          Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-05 07:16 +0000
            Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-05 02:34 -0500
              Re: New file system ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-05 13:05 -0500
                Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-05 18:25 +0000
    Re: New file system ? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-03-05 13:07 -0700
      Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-05 22:18 -0500
  Re: New file system ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-04 14:25 +0000
  Re: New file system ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-04 15:10 +0000
  Re: New file system ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-04 11:05 -0500

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