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Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"?

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On 2020-11-23 9:59 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 10:45:59 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
> 
>> Notice that you should never reply to trolls.
> 
> And yet, my post was _filled_ to the brim with facts!
> o Every fact I claim is backed up by well-cited public reports, in fact!
> 
> FACTS:
> Facts are what intelligent adults use to form their belief systems
> o Not purely bullshit (but verrrry pretttty) MARKETING shills!
> 
> Adults don't believe in Santa Claus, because adults comprehend facts
> o Children believe in him because they can't separate facts from MARKETING
> 
> FACTS:
> 
> Apple licensed ARM technology & fabs on TSMC Silicon for good business
> reasons; yet not for the reasons they will endlessly shill in brochures.

Fact: Apple licensed the ARM ISA (instruction set architecture) and 
designs its own chips to use it.

> 
> These Apple apologists will be completely immune to _why_ Apple needs to
> spin this cost-cutting production-control timing-based decision to switch.
> 
> Luckily we covered, in gory detail _why_ Apple has to spin this decision:
> o Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14]
>     <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iN5nqHcaZmM>

Which only supports that Apple designs its own chips.

> 
> Remember the Apple spin of "you're holding it wrong" or "it's courageous"
> to remove functionality so that the customer has to later buy it back?

Even if "facts", how are they germane to this decision?

> 
> Just as Apple had to spin their decision to take away the functionality and
> then tell you to buy it back for the basic headphone jack, which 99.95% of
> all Android devices have today (simply because of the fact it _is_ basic
> functionality).
> o How many of the existing Android phones lack headphone jack basic hardware functionality?
>     <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/ZjnD2kAf-mI>

And you've never addressed how many CURRENTLY PRODUCED Android phones 
have removed headphone jack.

Why is that?

> 
> Or Apple's spin on taking away basic functionality (again, so that the
> consumer has to buy it back) as being "green" to remove basic accessories?
> o Which recent 2019 & 2020 Android phones do NOT come with a charger in the box (that are in the price range of an iPhone)?
>     <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/-FSFIHYbs3o>

Again: how is this germane to whether or not Apple designs its own chips?

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How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-20 09:32 -0800
  Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-11-20 20:03 -0500
    Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:48 -0500
    Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-22 23:43 -0800
      Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"?  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-23 17:08 +0000
        Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 09:24 -0800
          Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-11-23 10:45 -0700
            Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"?  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-23 17:59 +0000
              Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 10:18 -0800
            Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 10:11 -0800
    Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"?  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-24 00:39 +0000
      Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 19:04 -0800
    Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-25 16:34 +0000
      Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-25 13:53 -0800
  Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Barker <notonmylife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-20 12:03 -0800
    Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-25 17:46 +0000
      Re: How is ArsTechnica being taken in so easily "Apple Marketing"? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-25 13:54 -0800

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