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Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices

From Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices
Date 2020-11-12 17:54 +0000
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On 12 Nov 2020 17:37:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Apple's chip design team is *killing* it!i Bravo!

See also the actual _facts_ (not utter bullshit from Apple MARKETING)...

o The new ARM technology TSMC Silicon powered MacBook Pro maxes out at 16GB of RAM & the M1 supports only 2 USB ports 
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/5QbTpwJFT-0>

o The new TSMC Silicon powered MacBook Pro can't use an eGPU (support for all non-Apple GPUs would be dropped)
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/_jHTerfLHF8>

o Which Apple CPUs, bootroms, & SEP secure enclave coprocessors do NOT already have well-known unpatchable fatal design flaws? 
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6WKS9KpSyJA/m/ycaYwqSsCQAJ>

o Boot Camp freeware to dual boot Windows & MacOS is dead on all new ARM-core Macs
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/qgnkyly9Aj4>

o Did Apple (yet again) fail in chip design (just like they did with modems) this time with graphics chips?
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/Bz7wouZhKcU>

o Yet another of the never-ending plethora of unpatchable security flaws in Apple's chips widely reported in the news today 
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/l9nwDIdIIkU/m/FxNf1USgAwAJ>

etc.
-- 
Jolly Roger isn't archived in dejagoogle... but he is archived here:
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> From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> Newsgroups:
comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad
> Subject: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End
16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices
> Date: 12 Nov 2020 17:37:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <i15a5sFk7a8U1@mid.individual.net>
> 
> Apple's chip design team is *killing* it!i Bravo!
> 
> Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch
> MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices
> 
> ---
> 
> Apple introduced the first MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini with
> M1 Apple Silicon chips yesterday, and as of today, the first benchmark
> of the new chip appears to be showing up on the Geekbench site.
> 
> <https://jmp.sh/X57oksC>
> 
> The M1 chip, which belongs to a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM, features a
> single-core score of 1687 and a multi-core score of 7433.  According to
> the benchmark, the M1 has a 3.2GHz base frequency.
> 
> When compared to existing devices, the M1 chip in the MacBook Air
> outperforms all iOS devices. For comparison's sake, the iPhone 12 Pro
> earned a single-core score of 1584 and a multi-core score of 3898, while
> the highest ranked iOS device on Geekbench's charts, the A14 iPad Air,
> earned a single-core score of 1585 and a multi-core score of 4647.
> 
> <https://jmp.sh/E0RKkIv>
> Single Core benchmarks 
> 
> In comparison to Macs, the single-core performance is better than *any*
> other available Mac, and the multi-core performance beats out all of the
> 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro models, including the 10th-generation high-end
> 2.4GHz Intel Core i9 model. That high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro earned a
> single-core score of 1096 and a multi-core score of 6870.
> 
> Though the M1 chip is outperforming the 16-inch MacBook Pro models when
> it comes to raw CPU benchmarks, the 16-inch MacBook Pro likely offers
> better performance in other areas such as the GPU as those models have
> high-power discrete GPUs.
> 
> <https://jmp.sh/qkyu8hL>
> Multi Core benchmarks 
> 
> It's worth noting that there are likely to be some performance
> differences between the MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air even though
> they're using the same M1 chip because the MacBook Air has a fanless
> design and the MacBook Pro has an new Apple-designed cooling system.
> There's also a benchmark for the Mac mini, though, and it has about the
> same scores.
> 
> The Mac mini with M1 chip that was benchmarked earned a single-core
> score of 1682 and a multi-core score of 7067.
> 
> Update: There's also a benchmark for the 13-inch MacBook Pro with M1
> chip and 16GB RAM that has a single-core score of 1714 and a multi-core
> score of 6802. Like the MacBook Air, it has a 3.2GHz base frequency. A
> few other MacBook Air benchmarks have surfaced too with similar scores,
> and the full list is available on Geekbench.
> 
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/11/m1-macbook-air-first-benchmark/>
> 
> -- 
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> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
> 
> JR

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  Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-12 17:54 +0000
    Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-12 10:01 -0800
      Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-12 18:03 +0000
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