Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly?

From	Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.system, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject	Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly?
Date	2024-10-31 15:38 -0700
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BDB wrote:
> I have found no-one yet who has reverse-engineered EtreCheck.
> 
This combination of statements leads me to believe that BDB doesn't have
a good grasp of what 'reverse-engineered' means in the context of software.

> Folk have *NO CLUE* as to what they are loading onto their computer
> when they use it.

This part implies that what BDB thinks he is talking about is something
along the lines of 'knows *exactly* what E'Chk is doing to do what it
'does'.

But that isn't what reverse engineering would mean for s/w.  If one were
going to 'reverse engineer' E'Chk, they would create a software which
performs the same duties as E'Chk w/o having any access to E'Chk's
source code.

This 'type of' mistaken thinking is because BDB has a theory that E'Chk
is 'nefarious'.  What would be helpful to dispel that theory would be if
BDB or someone who is actually capable of reading the source code had
access to that.

JD implies that he would make such source code available to someone, but
not just with the conventional license he provides.

> This License does not grant you the right to access to the source
> code of the Software. If, in certain circumstances, such access is
> desired by you, you may enter into a separate license with Etresoft.

The wp article on reverse engineering has an extensive section on what 
the term means in the case of software and distinctly addresses the 
issue of source code as part of the discussion.

If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his 
software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent 
anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he 
might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever 
he is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software

-- 
Mike Easter

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  Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-08-18 20:17 +0000
    Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-18 21:40 +0100
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        Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-08-18 22:42 +0100
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          Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-08-18 22:19 +0000
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              Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-19 16:00 +0000
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                Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-20 00:33 +0000
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                Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-08-20 13:51 +0000
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                Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 15:30 +0000
                Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-09-22 17:10 +0100
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                Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 15:38 -0700
                Re: What does "Reinstall macOS" do, exactly? Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 23:12 +0000
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