Re: Apple Investors Beware?

From	android <here@there.was>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Apple Investors Beware?
Date	2017-05-07 21:09 +0200
Organization	the center
Message-ID	<here-7DA085.21091707052017@news.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(5 earlier) <en8vccFeqokU1@mid.individual.net> <here-C8B6FB.18372307052017@news.individual.net> <en91bdFeqokU2@mid.individual.net> <here-37B129.19244607052017@news.individual.net> <en979uFgfsaU1@mid.individual.net>

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In article <en979uFgfsaU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2017-05-07, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> > In article <en91bdFeqokU2@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-05-07, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> >> > In article <en8vccFeqokU1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 2017-05-07, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> >> >> > In article <en8suqFeb65U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 2017-05-07, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> >> >>>>> In article <070520171035480889%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> >> >>>>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> which companies *have* come out with a technological game changer in
> >> >>>>>> recent years?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> How recent?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>><http://www.gsmarena.com/neonode_n1-391.php>
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> Certainly more recent than *2003*...
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> And...are you kidding me?! LOL! A Windows CE phone sporting a
> >> >>>> jaw-dropping 176 x 220 pixel display, a whopping 16MB of RAM, and a .3
> >> >>>> mega pixel camera! 
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Well it was a media phone long before that Apple thingy entered the 
> >> >>> market...
> >> >> 
> >> >> So was my Palm Treo 600 from 2003. So were many others at the time. : )
> >> >> Your silly suggestion that this Neonode N1 was a "game changer" is
> >> >> ludicrous. 
> >> >
> >> > The Neo was a media phone and not a PDA
> >> 
> >> And yet smart phones today are neither a Neo or Palm. Some "game
> >> changer" you have there...
> >
> > The game changing is setting the agenda, concept or paradigm.
> 
> I see no such change affected by the Neo.
> 
> > Apple did not invent the smartphone
> 
> Neither did Neo. 

No but the mediaphone. The Treo was a PDA phone. Just like the Ericson 
R380s (2000):

<http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/ericsson/err380_03.jpg>

Or Nokia 9020 Communicator (2000):

<http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/nokia/no9210_02.jpg>

I think that this was about how the first Treo precursor appeared 
(late2000 or even later):

<http://vivianpic.com/script/prime/us-B0000501E3/us-B0000501E3-0.jpg>

Saw one in on the shelf at my service provider. I did not by one...

Can you smell the desperation? Read all about it:

<http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Handspring-to-Introduce-Phone-Mod
ule-for-Visor-2704754.php>

Game changers don't have to invent things to change the
> game either. Logic much?
-- 
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http://www.giroditalia.it/it/live/

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