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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: 4.8GB iNode file in Lost+Found |
| Date | 2017-05-20 16:17 +0000 |
| Organization | People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates |
| Message-ID | <eob8gkF8r1qU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <ofo4r8$t6k$1@dont-email.me> <eo9oukFt63cU1@mid.individual.net> <ofogcj$leu$1@dont-email.me> |
On 2017-05-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 5/19/17 10:45 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2017-05-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> It was created Oct 4 at 2:35 AM and last modified 3 hours later.
>>
>> The existence of that file means your startup drive is experiencing
>> problems. You should probably run Disk Utility's First Aid function
>> ASAP.
>
> I'm sure I've done that several times since October, but I just did it
> again.
So you may have since repaired the damage, or not, depending on the
actual results of that operation which are displayed in the Show Details
area of the First Aid progress window (and are discarded once you quit
Disk Utility). I guess we'll never know.
> Come to think of it, in the last year, my disk needed repair for the
> first time since Classic, IIRC.
There you go.
>> To see what the iNode file contains, run the 'xar' command in a
>> terminal window like so:
>>
>> xar -xf /lost+found/iNode4789234
>
> Would I be extracting a 5GB archive?
Well, let's see... man xar outputs, among other things:
NAME
xar - eXtensible ARchiver
SYNOPSIS
xar -[ctx][v] ...
DESCRIPTION
The XAR project aims to provide an easily extensible archive
format. Important design decisions include an easily extensible XML
table of contents (TOC) for random access to archived files, storing the
TOC at the beginning of the archive to allow for effi- cient handling
of streamed archives, the ability to handle files of arbitrarily large
sizes, the ability to choose independent encodings for individual files
in the archive, the ability to store checksums for individual files in
both compressed and uncom- pressed form, and the ability to query the
table of content's rich meta-data.
FUNCTIONS
One of the following options must be used:
-c Creates an archive
-t Lists the contents of an archive
-x Extracts an archive
So if you want to list the contents without extracting them, you'd
instead use:
xar -tf /lost+found/iNodeNNNNNNN
> How long would it take?
Listing would be quick. How long extraction would take would depend on
the speed of your disk and how much data there is, obviously. For 5GB on
a fairly recent hard drive, probably not very long.
> Would the output make sense to me?
That's pretty subjective. It would show you the names of files and
folders in the archive, which may or may not make sense to you.
>>> That was about the time I upgraded to Sierra. I hate the way Apple
>>> pushes upgrades. I want to be sure my file structure is okay and I'm
>>> backed up, but if I click NO, Apple takes it as YES.
>>
>> How so? I'm still running El Capitan on several machines and haven't
>> been forced to upgrade them. In fact Apple has *never* forced me to
>> upgrade.
>
> Maybe Notifications wants me to OK an unspecified update.
Notifications can be easily dismissed:
"To dismiss an alert notification without interacting with it, use your
pointer to swipe the banner to the right."
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204079>
If you'd prefer not to see notifications about the Sierra upgrade, you
can disable it as well by opening App Store, clicking the Updates tab at
the top, right-clicking macOS Sierra in the listing, and choosing Hide
Update.
> I go to App Store to see what it is. If it's a new OS, I'll definitely
> want to wait. I'll want to back up and check my disk.
Then you should do so since nothing at all forces you to upgrade.
> Before starting a 5GB download, I'll want to pick a time when I don't
> want to download other big files and I don't expect to make or answer
> phone calls. (Downloading isn't supposed to interfere with VOIP, but
> it has happened to me.)
Perfectly reasonable.
> I'll tell it not to start the download, and it will ignore me.
The only way downloads will happen without your explicit consent is when
you have "Download newly available updates in the background" enabled in
System Preferences > App Store. If that behavior is undesirable to you,
you should disable that option.
> When it finishes, it will start the installation.
Not without your consent, no. The first thing that is displayed is a big
window with a Continue button at the bottom:
<https://i.imgur.com/lcTTQLR.png>
You have to actually click that button to begin installation. You can,
instead, refrain from clicking that button and quit the installer if you
wish. Apparently you chose to click the Continue button.
> At some point it will offer me the option not to restart.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Maybe you are referring to the
initial screen with the Continue button.
> At that point, I'll figure I might as well get it over with. Then my
> computer may be down for an hour. I never know how long. That's why
> I'd rather pick the time.
By clicking Continue, you picked the time.
>>> IIRC, I squeezed in a backup while the update was downloading, then
>>> went to bed. When I returned, all seemed to have gone well.
>>>
>>> Now it looks as if the upgrade hit a stumbling block.
>>
>> Are you saying that just because the iNode file is there?
*crickets chirping*
At any rate, the lost+found files indicate the disk volume is in need of
repair - not that a software update hit a stumbling block.
>>> Could there be any harm in dumping the file (or the folder?) into
>>> the trash and emptying?
>>
>> Well yeah, you could lose whatever is in it...
>>
> If the OS or my personal files were missing 5 GB, I believe I would
> have noticed it in 7 months.
Obviously *something* is missing from your file system.
Do I care if you investigate? No. Do you care? Maybe. Maybe not. Only
you can know this.
> Now I remember. When Apple pushed a new OS at me, it was a bad time,
> but I saw it downloading anyway. I hit the button that said "cancel"
> or something similar.
So you likely have "Download newly available updates in the background"
enabled in System Preferences > App Store. Clicking Cancel would have
canceled it - until the next time it tried again to update in the
background.
> It seems the great kidders at Apple had decided to have "cancel" mean
> "I'll take two, please!"
No, "Cancel" definitely means cancel. It's just that "Download newly
available updates in the background" means what it says as well. : )
> The next time I looked, the App Store showed a dual download. I
> thought I got one stopped.
That sounds confused.
> IIRC, it disappeared from the App Store window.
Once it's downloaded there's no reason to display it there.
> 4.8GB sounds like the size of an OS download. I wonder if when I
> canceled the second download, it finished downloading anyway, 3 hours
> later, and Sierra, installed from the other download, marked it an
> iNode.
Only you can answer that question (by running the xar tool to see what's
in the archive).
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