Re: OS-X and missing file extensions

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: OS-X and missing file extensions
Date	2017-04-30 23:06 +0000
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JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-04-30 14:58, Lewis wrote:
> 
>> OS X did not do away with resource forks nor with type/creator fields.
>> JF, as usual, is wrong. Type?Creator have been deprecated, but they're
>> still there.
> 
> Type/Creator are not "there".

Yes they are there. And they are accessible to applications as they always
have been.

> ls  -l -@ Air\ Horn
> 
> -rwxr-xr-x@ 1 jfmezei  staff  97002 Oct 24  1991 Air Horn
>         com.apple.FinderInfo       32
> 
> 
>> xattr -l Air\ Horn 
> 
>> com.apple.FinderInfo:
>> 00000000  41 49 46 46 53 46 58 21 01 40 FF FF FF FF 00 00  |AIFFSFX!.@......|
>> 00000010  01 76 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 41  |.v.............A|
>> 00000020
> 
> So there is no "file type" field as far as the OS0-F file system is
> concerned.

Nonsense. You just *think* it's different because you are using
command-line tools to look at the information.

> However, there are stubs of code that are able to look into it, if it
> exists AND there is no file extension on a file.

The same API as always.

> The application Finder also makes use of extended attributes 

As it always has.

> It looks to me far more like Apple foud a way to retrofit old style file
> information/resource forks onto a file system that does not support them
> natively. 

Nonsense. HFS is still HFS, and still supports forked files and HFS
metadata.

> There were other kludges. 

Your the only kludge here.

> But except for the Finder Aliases, I don't see "native" OS-X uses for
> old classic file attributes and resource forks.

Yeah, you wouldn't. You weren't even aware of aliases before yesterday.

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OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-28 22:55 -0400
  Re: OS-X and missing file extensions isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2017-04-28 20:47 -0700
  Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-04-29 18:52 +1200
    Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-29 04:15 -0700
      Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 09:50 -0400
      Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-29 18:19 +0000
    Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 09:50 -0400
  Re: OS-X and missing file extensions dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-04-29 23:41 +1200
    Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-29 13:47 -0400
      Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-29 20:58 +0000
        Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-04-30 13:13 +1200
          Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 21:23 -0400
          Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-30 18:58 +0000
            Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-30 15:04 -0400
              Re: OS-X and missing file extensions android <here@there.was> - 2017-04-30 21:46 +0200
            Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-30 16:35 -0400
              Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-30 16:37 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-30 16:43 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-30 16:47 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-30 23:11 +0000
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-01 08:51 +0000
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-02 11:40 +1200
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-01 19:45 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 19:30 -0700
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-01 22:44 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 20:36 -0700
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-02 00:17 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-01 23:47 +0000
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-02 09:02 +0000
              Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-30 23:06 +0000
              Re: OS-X and missing file extensions dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-01 12:43 +1200
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-30 23:09 -0400
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-01 03:45 +0000
                Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-01 08:56 +0000
      Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-04-30 16:16 -0700
        Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-30 23:47 +0000
        Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-30 21:35 -0400
          Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-01 02:55 +0000
    Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-29 18:14 +0000
  Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 09:50 -0400
    Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-29 13:50 -0400
      Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 13:53 -0400
      Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-29 18:24 +0000
        Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-29 15:12 -0400
          Re: OS-X and missing file extensions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 15:15 -0400
          Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-29 20:13 +0000
            Re: OS-X and missing file extensions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-29 21:35 -0400
              Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-30 01:43 +0000
          Re: OS-X and missing file extensions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-29 21:00 +0000

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