Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available
Date	2016-11-02 20:29 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2016-11-02, Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <e7s2rtFal7fU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 19:03:25 -0400
>> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> 2) DL the update from Apple and copy to the other Macs.  It usually 
>> >> appears in support some time after the release.  There's no emergency.
>> > 
>> > but it might be missing things like safari which they do not include
>> > with security updates anymore
>> 
>> Wrong:
>> 
>> "macOS Sierra 10.12.1 includes the security content of Safari 10.0.1."
>> 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207275>
>> 
>> Why bother commenting when you clearly don't even know what you are talking
>> about?
>
> BUT...for old gear that Apple no longer supports, Ubuntu is a great 
> solution.

I think you replied to the wrong sub-thread. Anyhow, your assertion is
highly subjective and also highly debatable considering: 

Linux tends to be much less energy efficient on Macs than macOS. Often
battery life is much worse, and systems run hotter when running Linux
than they do when running macOS.

The Linux user interface is schizophrenic, clunky, and complex. Drivers
malfunction more often (or don't work at all). And *many* valuable
mainstream software applications don't even run. 

Personally, I don't consider such a crappy desktop user experience to be
a "great solution". I've got old Macs still running 10.6 that are *much*
more useful than they would be running Linux.

> Many of my friends are setting up old MacMinis to use Ubuntu 
> for their kids.  They get a jumpstart on Linux use which will lead them 
> anywhere.

I don't see how macOS couldn't lead them just as well. Most *nix
software compiles and runs on macOS natively. And while macOS is
obviously different, many parts of the macOS UNIX implementation are
quite similar to mainstream Linux distributions. So one can gain a whole
lot of very useful technical knowledge about *nix without bothering to
run Linux on a Mac. So unless you are specifically interested in a
particular Linux distribution, or particular Linux-only technologies or
software stacks, there isn't much of an actual need to run Linux on a
Mac. And even when there is a legitimate need, you can do so in a
virtual machine inside of macOS to enjoy all of the benefits of macOS
while running Linux at the same time.

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JR

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macOS 10.12.1 Available Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 09:05 -0700
  Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> - 2016-10-26 10:12 +0200
    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2016-10-26 08:23 +0000
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        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-26 16:21 -0600
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            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-27 18:16 -0600
    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-26 22:03 +1300
      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> - 2016-10-26 14:38 +0200
      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-28 08:26 +1300
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-28 13:30 +1300
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:40 -0400
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 15:46 -0400
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:54 -0400
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-28 20:00 +0000
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 16:24 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-29 16:50 +0000
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 16:17 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 16:23 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 16:25 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 16:50 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 11:26 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 12:48 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-29 17:17 +0000
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 13:38 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 13:45 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-29 17:53 +0000
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 15:07 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-29 15:02 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 16:08 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2016-10-30 07:42 +0200
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 10:47 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-30 21:43 +1300
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 11:00 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-31 08:50 +1300
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 17:01 -0400
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-31 12:39 +1300
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-10-29 15:54 +1300
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:44 +0000
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:43 +0000
    Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-26 19:03 -0400
      Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-01 10:01 -0700
        Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 17:48 +0000
          Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-02 08:25 -0700
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 10:26 -0700
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-02 18:42 +0100
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:12 -0700
                Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 04:39 +0000
              Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 20:30 +0000
            Re: macOS 10.12.1 Available Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 20:29 +0000

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