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Re: All the Apple trolls claim to be completely ignorant of everything

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On Nov 12, 2025 at 12:52:17 PM MST, "Marion" wrote
<10f2ohh$2r0v$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

> Tom Elam wrote:
>>> You lost everything because Apple claimed it was for your own good.
>>> And yet, you gained nothing.
>> 
>> Please list something that the average mobile phone user will find
>> every-day useful on Android that you cannot do in IOS.
> 
> Remember, I'm an expert in both platforms;

Self proclaims.

> you don't know either.

According to you.

You avoid evidence and just say you are an expert. That is pathetic.

> There are so many things Android does iOS can't, it would take a long time.

Some are just benefits. Sure. Some are to benefit security on iOS, something
you say you care about but clearly know little about (even less than I do).
And of course there are these iOS benefits:

* Longer software support: Apple devices typically get major iOS updates for
5-6 years, while most Android phones get around 3-4 years (though Google and
Samsung are catching up).

* Faster and more consistent updates: Updates roll out to all compatible
devices at once, not delayed by carriers or manufacturers.

* Tighter ecosystem integration: Seamless handoff between iPhone, iPad, Mac,
and Apple Watch -- like Continuity, AirDrop, Handoff, and Universal Clipboard.

* Privacy controls: App Tracking Transparency and on-device Siri/Face ID data
processing are stronger than most Android equivalents.

* Optimized performance: Because Apple designs both the hardware (A-series
chips) and software, iPhones often feel smoother and stay fast longer.

* Better third-party app optimization: Developers usually optimize for iOS
first, meaning apps often look cleaner and run more consistently.

* Longer battery efficiency over time: iPhones generally manage power better,
even as they age, due to tighter system-level control.

* Security model: App Store review process and iOS sandboxing make malware far
less common. This is something you simply cannot accept. Oh well.

* Resale value: iPhones hold resale value much better than most Android
phones.

* Ease of use and consistency: Fewer hardware variations mean a more uniform,
less fragmented experience.

* Integrated services: iMessage, FaceTime, AirPlay, and iCloud all work
effortlessly without third-party setups.

Some of these, of course, are double edged swords. There are absolutely
benefits to Android, too. But your bias is EXTREME.

> SO I'm gonna summarize, since the main thing iOS can't do is anything you
> like without logging into an Internet server (e.g., to isntall apps).
> 
> Hell, you can't even back up apps on iOS, Tom.
> Seriously.
> 
> You haven't been able to back up apps on iOS for many years now.
> You don't even know that, Tom. Because you know nothing about iOS.

Your psychic abilities are amazing... or would be if they were accurate. On
iOS, apps come from the App store. If they are removed from the store your
"backup" is gone. If they are not you always have them available.

> If the app or version you want is not on the Apple App Store, then you
> can't back it up because you can only load the IPA from the App Store.

And you think this is specialized knowledge? LOL!

...
> 
> HINT: Apple lied about why they locked up iOS.
> 
> Note I've added "Brock/Snit" to my killfile, even as I had to do it
> manually since it's my own newsreader that I wrote which uses gVIM/Telnet.

Here is what made you run -- direct proof your claims were contrary to facts:

1. https://www.getastra.com/blog/security-audit/malware-statistics/ -- Android
devices are 50x more likely to be infected than iOS devices, showing the
starkest difference in malware prevalence.

2.
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/20-current-android-malware-stats/
-- Android malware attacks reached 33.3 million in 2024; iOS attacks remain
very rare.

3. https://securelist.com/mobile-threat-report-2024/115494/ -- Android is the
main target for mobile malware, with Trojan banker attacks up 196%; iOS sees
far fewer infections.

4.
https://46745145.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/46745145/MAPS_MTD/REPORT/GEN/Global%20Mobile%20Threat%20Report%202024%20FINAL%20(1).pdf
-- Android's ecosystem is more broadly exposed to attacks than iOS.

5.
https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/threats/android-vs-iphone-mobile-security
-- Android faces far higher malware volume; both require updates and safe
practices.

6. https://www.qualysec.com/ios-vs-android-security/ -- iOS is more secure by
default; Android needs careful management to match safety.

7.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370667917_Comparative_Study_of_Information_Security_in_Mobile_Operating_Systems_Android_and_Apple_iOS
-- iOS has superior information security architecture versus Android.

8.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312279414_Security_Evaluation_of_IOS_and_Android/fulltext/587b977308ae4445c06422df/Security-Evaluation-of-IOS-and-Android.pdf
-- iOS offers better enterprise security; Android requires careful management.

9.
https://www.renemayrhofer.com/courses/android-security/selected-paper/2023/Android_and_iOS_Platform_Security-A_Comparison.pdf
-- iOS shows stronger hardware and system-level security in 2023-2024.

10.
https://www.approov.io/hubfs/White%20Paper/WP-Comparison%20of%20Apple%2C%20Android%20and%20Huawei%20Mobile%20App%20Security%20v1.0%20FINAL(2).pdf
-- iOS apps are more secure by default due to App Store restrictions.

11. https://www.getastra.com/blog/mobile/ios-vs-android-security/ -- iOS's
controlled ecosystem reduces malware exposure; Android's openness increases
the attack surface.

12.
https://www.corrata.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Mobile-Security-Whitepaper-Final-Nov-20112017.pdf
-- iOS is less susceptible to mass malware; Android's openness increases
exposure.

13.
https://www.lookout.com/threat-intelligence/report/q1-2024-mobile-landscape-threat-report
-- Enterprise spyware targets iOS even though Android dominates overall
malware volume.

14.
https://www.lookout.com/threat-intelligence/report/q2-2024-mobile-landscape-threat-report
-- Mobile phishing and malicious web content are rising; iOS is increasingly
targeted in enterprise.

15. https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2024/12/26/mobile-devices-attacks/ -- iOS
faced higher phishing exposure (18.4%) than Android (11.4%), despite Android's
higher malware volume.

16.
https://www.cybersecurity-insiders.com/vulnerability-comparison-android-vs-ios-in-the-face-of-cyber-attacks/
-- Android is more exposed to vulnerabilities, but iOS still faces targeted
attacks.

17. https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.04754 -- Android devices are significantly more
prone to persistent malware infections than iOS.

18. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2105.12613 -- iOS offers stronger protection against
unauthorized access; Android needs extra management.

19. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2109.13722 -- Both OSes have privacy/data collection
issues; Android apps are more likely to leak sensitive information.

20. https://petsymposium.org/popets/2024/popets-2024-0047.pdf -- iOS privacy
labels are slightly more effective than Android in helping users understand
data collection.

21. https://www.promon.io/security-news/android-vs-ios-security -- Security
depends more on user behavior, patching, and configuration than OS alone.

22. https://www.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure --
iOS generally offers stronger default security; user behavior is the main risk
on both platforms.

23.
https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/Tc13/reports/2024-mobile-security-index.pdf
-- Android is riskier in enterprise without strong management; mobile devices
remain key breach vectors.

24.
https://lp.zimperium.com/hubfs/Reports/2025%20Global%20Mobile%20Threat%20Report.pdf
-- Sideloaded apps and older Android devices greatly increase enterprise risk;
iOS risk comes mostly from targeted attacks.




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