Re: What's a good SSD to replace a 15" mid-2008 MBP(model A1260)'s HDD?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: What's a good SSD to replace a 15" mid-2008 MBP(model A1260)'s HDD?
Date	2017-02-24 00:46 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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In article <58afc50c$0$25533$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> > you didn't provide any such thing.
> 
> I'll repeat again, since you have hard time with this.

it ain't me who is having a hard time

> Prior to Yosemite, you could enable TRIM with a kernel extension which
> hacked the SSD disk driver.

a gross and unnecessary hack.

> At early Yosemite, that extension required you to disable kernel
> extension verification to function. (boot would hang as it switched from
> EFI disk driver to the OS-X disk driver which would fail verification).
> 
> At about 10.5.3 or .2, Apple introduced an unsupported utility that
> enabled TRIM in 3rd party drives without needing that extenstion hack.

10.5 is leopard.

you are thinking of yosmite/10.10.4, where apple added the ability to
enable trim for third party ssds. 

as you say, it's unsupported, which means use at your own risk. see
below.

> So yes, what version of OS-X you have matters with regards to 3rd party
> support.

nope. absolutely none whatsofucking ever.

put a pata ssd (hard to find, but not impossible) into an old mac
running macos 8 and it'll work fine.

> > apple tests trim with its own ssds, which have apple custom firmware so
> > that trim works properly.
> 
> Breaking news: Apple tests its hardware.

usually, but you're missing the point. 

apple *doesn't* test third party hardware, in particular third party
ssds and trim, which is why the aforementioned tool has a clear
warning:

<https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2015/06/trimforce.png>
  This tool force-enables TRIM for all relevant attached devices, even
  though such devices may not have been validated for data integrity
  while using TRIM. Use of this tool to enable TRIM may result in
  unintended data loss or device corruption. It should not be used in a
  commercial operating environment or with important data. Before using
  this tool, you should back up all of your data and regularly back up
  data while TRIM is enabled.

read that carefully.

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