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Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world

From Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world
Date 2026-03-17 10:47 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2026-03-17 08:47, badgolferman wrote:
> On 03/17/2026 10:29, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 3/14/26 2:01 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
>>>>> interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.
>>>>
>>>> That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based
>>>> software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on this
>>>> Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put that on
>>>> here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a better
>>>> platform.
>>>
>>> You bring up a great point in that macOS is NOT a prison ecosystem.
>>> Since macOS has always been the "grown-up" Apple OS:
>>>    a. You can install whatever software you want.
>>>    b. You can run Windows apps through virtualization.
>>>    c. Filesystem access is normal and predictable.
>>>    d. Developers can distribute apps outside the App Store    .
>>>    e. You can compile Linux tools, run Docker, use Homebrew,
>>>       SSH into anything, etc.
>>>    f. Hell, you can even add a firewall, torrent & the real Tor browser
>>>       None of which the iOS prison ecosystem can do.
>>>
>>> But iOS?
>>> iOS is clearly designed to be a prison ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Apple claims they put us in the iOS prison ecosystem "for our safety".
>>> And yet, there is no safety.
>>>
>>>    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
>>>    Subject: What are the merits of the claim that iOS is "way more
>>> secure"?
>>>    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:53 -0700
>>>    Message-ID: <10ic5d9$2mvn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
>>>
>>> Hmmm... maybe Apple had a different reason for the iOS prison after all?
>>>           HINT: control === revenue
>>
>> More crazy BS. On my iOS devices I run:
>>
>> Google Maps, not Apple
>>
>> Outlook, not Mail
>>
>> Office 365, not Apple's apps
>>
>> Roku, not Apple TV
>>
>> Google Photos and Drive
>>
>> YouTube Music, not Apple
>>
>> OneCalendar
>>
>> Kindle, not Books
>>
>> and more. Many of these generate no Apple revenue.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Surely the mere fact you downloaded them from the App Store generated
> revenue for Apple.
> 
> 

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Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-03-13 14:53 -0700
  Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-13 16:23 -0700
    Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 22:05 +0000
      Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-14 15:44 -0700
  Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 13:05 -0400
    Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-03-14 11:01 -0700
      Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 10:29 -0400
        Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 11:47 -0400
          Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-17 10:47 -0700
          Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-03-17 14:16 -0400
    Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-03-15 10:21 +1300
      Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-03-14 23:57 +0000
        Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-03-17 18:49 -0400
  Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-03-14 21:07 +0000
    Re: Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-03-17 14:25 -0400

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