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Re: 20,000,000 / year

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: 20,000,000 / year
Date 2016-02-01 10:31 +1300
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Message-ID <010220161031509151%YourName@YourISP.com> (permalink)
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In article <n8l1ee$sog$1@dont-email.me>, John Somerset
<somerset@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 1/30/16 3:31 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <n8isil$rk2$1@dont-email.me>, John Somerset
> > <somerset@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> On 1/30/16 9:26 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> >>> On 2016-01-29 17:24, John Somerset wrote:
> >>>> On 1/29/16 8:38 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> >>>>> On 2016-01-29 06:44, John Somerset wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Clicky says they calculate US OS market share by 500 million daily page
> >>>>>> views on more than 500,000 sites. Each percentage point would be 5
> >>>>>> million daily views. If Clicky says the OS X market share is 15% bigger
> >>>>>> than other data collectors say, somebody would have to set his browser
> >>>>>> to say he's OS X to 75 million pages a day that report to Clicky, then
> >>>>>> set it to say he's Windows to 75 million pages a day that report to
> >>>>>> everybody else.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whatever it says, 25% is plain wrong.  There are well over 1B windows
> >>>>> machines operating in the world and approximately 100M - 120M Macs.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I'm wondering where the figure came from.  Clicky's figure was for the
> >>>> US.  According to Apple Insider, OS X market share in the US is twice as
> >>>> high as it is worldwide.
> >>>
> >>> What accounts for their number is bad data, bad algorithms or bad
> >>> representation or more likely a mix of all three.  It is shit data and
> >>> does not bear further examination.
> >>>
> >> Clicky says the market share in Algeria is 0.4%, and it's 2.5% in India
> >> and Saudi Arabia. They say it's 100% in Antarctica, some days.  Other
> >> days, it's 100% Linux.  The rest of the time, it's 100% Windows.
> >>
> >> The correct answer is of course 9.36.
> >
> > The correct answer is: Who gives a crap?  :-)
> >
> > It's all meaningless nonsense. Apple certainly couldn't care less what
> > the idiotic "market share" is, never has done (except perhaps when the
> > sugar-water salesman was in charge and nearly killed the company!). As
> > long as they're still selling, Apple keeps making them - a simple and
> > effective methodology.
>
> How do you know Apple doesn't care?  Don't they keep track of how many 
> they sell each quarter? Don't you think they consider market share in 
> deciding whether to update a model, what price to aim for, and what 
> features it will have?

How many they sell is completely different to idiotic "market share". 

Apple has never been interested in chasing "market share" - they're
simply interested in making good quality products, easy to use
products, etc. - that's their methodology / philosophy, and has been
since day one with Jobs and Woz (well, Woz anyway, Jobs was originally
a greedy money-grubber, but changed later). That's what most people,
especially greedy "big business" management morons, simply can't
understand.

If Apple was interested in silly "market share", they could easily
lower the prices and rack up more sales and increase their market share
... these days they could almost give away devices for free and make
money solely from the App Store sales.

It's no different to Ferrari. They sell relatively few cars every year
and have virtually no market share, and aren't interested in the el
cheapo market, but are still one of the most desirable brands.

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20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-27 19:48 -0500
  Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-28 12:57 -0500
    Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-28 15:48 -0500
      Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-28 19:21 -0500
        Re: 20,000,000 / year Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-01-28 17:45 -0800
          Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-29 06:44 -0500
            Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-29 08:38 -0500
              Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-29 17:24 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-30 09:26 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 12:43 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-31 09:31 +1300
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-31 08:18 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-02-01 10:31 +1300
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-01-31 20:58 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-31 21:15 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-02-01 15:44 +1300
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 16:55 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 13:59 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 18:30 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 15:35 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 13:27 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-02 11:08 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 19:00 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-02 16:06 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-03 02:56 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-02-03 13:46 +1300
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-02-03 09:18 +1300
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-02 15:52 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-02-02 20:58 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-02 16:21 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-02-02 23:01 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-02 20:51 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-02 17:56 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-02 21:04 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-02-03 21:18 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-02-02 22:50 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 18:37 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-02-01 22:19 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 19:11 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 19:24 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 17:42 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 14:43 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 17:50 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-02-02 13:17 +1300
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 19:24 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 16:37 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 19:45 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 17:11 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 20:14 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 17:22 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-02-02 11:47 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-02 16:56 +0000
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-30 18:16 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-30 16:52 +0000
              Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-01-29 15:11 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:24 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-30 09:40 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 10:32 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-02-01 14:30 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 12:31 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 15:39 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-02-01 16:02 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-02-01 13:09 -0800
                Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-02-01 17:48 -0500
                Re: 20,000,000 / year John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 14:52 -0500
        Re: 20,000,000 / year Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-01-29 16:33 +1300
        Re: 20,000,000 / year Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-29 08:36 -0500

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