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Started byANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
First post2015-10-14 13:51 -0500
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  Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-14 13:51 -0500
    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-14 19:18 +0000
      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-15 17:18 +1300
        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 07:15 -0700
    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-15 08:27 +1300
      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-10-14 21:16 -0700
        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-10-15 10:25 -0400
          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 15:53 +0000
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-10-15 09:04 -0700
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-15 13:37 -0400
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-10-16 20:41 +0000
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-16 22:10 +0000
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-17 13:06 +1300
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 00:23 +0000
                    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-17 15:36 +1300
                      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 14:21 +0000
                        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 14:29 +0000
                        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 16:41 +0000
                          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-18 12:47 +1300
                          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-10-18 01:33 +0000
                    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-17 03:52 +0000
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-10-18 01:09 +0000
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-18 03:10 +0000
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-16 19:06 -0400
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-16 23:10 +0000
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-16 19:18 -0400
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-17 13:06 +1300
                    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 16:09 +0000
                      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 21:55 +0000
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-10-18 03:42 -0400
          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 11:16 -0700
          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-10-16 20:41 +0000
    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-15 13:36 -0400
      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-15 12:50 -0500
        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 19:04 +0000
          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 13:55 -0700
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 20:58 +0000
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-15 16:49 -0500
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-10-15 17:00 -0500
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-15 17:02 -0500
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 22:22 +0000
                    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-17 18:58 -0500
                      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-18 03:10 +0000
                        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-19 01:51 -0500
                          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-19 16:27 +0000
                            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... TextEdit method... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-19 17:10 -0500
                              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... TextEdit method... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-19 22:18 +0000
                                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... TextEdit method... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-20 16:55 -0500
                              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... TextEdit method... Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-10-19 23:35 +0000
                                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... TextEdit method... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-20 16:57 -0500
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 22:21 +0000
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 15:34 -0700
                    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 22:41 +0000
                      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 17:46 -0700
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-10-15 23:38 +0000
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-16 02:28 +0000
                    Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-17 18:59 -0500
                      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-10-18 00:07 +0000
                      Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-18 03:10 +0000
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 14:26 -0700
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-15 22:40 +0000
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 17:47 -0700
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-15 23:01 +0000
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 17:45 -0700
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-16 17:04 -0400
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-16 14:34 -0700
          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-10-16 12:39 +1300
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-16 02:09 +0000
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-15 19:22 -0700
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-16 17:07 -0400
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-16 22:13 +0000
                Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-16 18:29 -0400
                  Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-16 22:47 +0000
        Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-16 17:03 -0400
          Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-10-16 23:17 -0700
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-17 09:07 -0400
              Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-17 14:05 +0000
            Re: Screen capturing on Retina Macs... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-17 16:47 +0000

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#257

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-15 22:40 +0000
Message-ID<d8aobaF81koU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#255
On 2015-10-15, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 10/15/15, 1:58 PM, in article d8aib9F6j26U1@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
> Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, usually they are completely ignorant of the issue.
>
> The sad thing is I have video instructions for the class - and that INCLUDES
> how to take screenshots on OS X and Windows (the class is for software that
> does not run on Linux, so no Linux instructions).

I've encountered it in the professional graphics and printing industry
as well as in the software/hardware tech industry - both places where
you might think people would know better. : D

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#264

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-10-15 17:47 -0700
Message-ID<D2459721.60592%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#257
On 10/15/15, 3:40 PM, in article d8aobaF81koU1@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-10-15, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 10/15/15, 1:58 PM, in article d8aib9F6j26U1@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
>> Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, usually they are completely ignorant of the issue.
>> 
>> The sad thing is I have video instructions for the class - and that INCLUDES
>> how to take screenshots on OS X and Windows (the class is for software that
>> does not run on Linux, so no Linux instructions).
> 
> I've encountered it in the professional graphics and printing industry
> as well as in the software/hardware tech industry - both places where
> you might think people would know better. : D

Yes... I get this from clients and others, too. They SHOULD know better.


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#259

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-10-15 23:01 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn20c5s.hj4.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#249
In message <d8aib9F6j26U1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-10-15, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 10/15/15, 12:04 PM, in article d8abmmF4pccU1@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
>> Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-10-15, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
>>>>>> sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>>>>>> into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>>>> 
>>>>> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
>>>> set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
>>>> paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
>>> 
>>> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
>>> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I'm not sure what your reasoning is behind pasting graphics into
>>> Word documents; but you should know you may very well be making life
>>> harder than need be for whoever you happen to be sending these Word
>>> files to. Word screws up images pasted into Word documents such that it
>>> is often impossible to get anything but a low-resolution copy of the
>>> image out of the document, which can be especially bad if there is text
>>> or other fine details in the image that someone needs to be able to read
>>> easily. I hope you aren't using Word needlessly for this purpose.
>>
>> Good point. For some of my classes I have students send me screenshots...
>> and some INSIST on doing it in a Word document no matter how much I tell
>> them not to.

"F" for failing to follow directions.

> Yes, usually they are completely ignorant of the issue.

Ignorant and lazy and incapable of listening.


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#262

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-10-15 17:45 -0700
Message-ID<D24596A3.6058F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#259
On 10/15/15, 4:01 PM, in article slrnn20c5s.hj4.g.kreme@amelia.local,
"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>>> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
>>>> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, I'm not sure what your reasoning is behind pasting graphics into
>>>> Word documents; but you should know you may very well be making life
>>>> harder than need be for whoever you happen to be sending these Word
>>>> files to. Word screws up images pasted into Word documents such that it
>>>> is often impossible to get anything but a low-resolution copy of the
>>>> image out of the document, which can be especially bad if there is text
>>>> or other fine details in the image that someone needs to be able to read
>>>> easily. I hope you aren't using Word needlessly for this purpose.
>>> 
>>> Good point. For some of my classes I have students send me screenshots...
>>> and some INSIST on doing it in a Word document no matter how much I tell
>>> them not to.
> 
> "F" for failing to follow directions.

I am more concerned about content then format of the document, but, yes, if
I had a number of these I would give one warning then take points. Maybe I
should straight from the start - this is COLLAGE after all.

>> Yes, usually they are completely ignorant of the issue.
> 
> Ignorant and lazy and incapable of listening.

Even when shown a video on how to do it correctly!


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#271

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-10-16 17:04 -0400
Message-ID<bp6dncwJPp36-7zLnZ2dnUU7-SUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#248
On 2015-10-15 16:55, Snit wrote:
> Good point. For some of my classes I have students send me screenshots...
> and some INSIST on doing it in a Word document no matter how much I tell
> them not to.

There is worse.  Some people send me joke collections or photo 
collections within PowerPoint presentations.  Double-ugh.

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#273

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-10-16 14:34 -0700
Message-ID<D246BB72.606E7%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#271
On 10/16/15, 2:04 PM, in article
bp6dncwJPp36-7zLnZ2dnUU7-SUAAAAA@giganews.com, "Alan Browne"
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2015-10-15 16:55, Snit wrote:
>> Good point. For some of my classes I have students send me screenshots...
>> and some INSIST on doing it in a Word document no matter how much I tell
>> them not to.
> 
> There is worse.  Some people send me joke collections or photo
> collections within PowerPoint presentations.  Double-ugh.
> 
Yes, I have gotten those as well. Largely from an elderly relative who gets
them from others... so just accept them.

Nice thing about OS X is QuickLook handles this well.


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#260

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2015-10-16 12:39 +1300
Message-ID<1mcds5y.1d4bix01xpskgcN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#246
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-10-15, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> >> > I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
> >> > sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
> >> > into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
> >
> >> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
> >
> > Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
> > set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
> > paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
> 
> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X. 

No temporary files manual method: hold down the Contol key while taking
the screenshot and it goes to the clipboard. Preview has a "New from
Clipboard" command, then resize, then you can copy and paste from
Preview to final destination (usually email in my case).

I do this rarely enough that I haven't bothered trying to automate it.

> BTW, I'm not sure what your reasoning is behind pasting graphics into
> Word documents; but you should know you may very well be making life
> harder than need be for whoever you happen to be sending these Word
> files to. Word screws up images pasted into Word documents such that it
> is often impossible to get anything but a low-resolution copy of the
> image out of the document, which can be especially bad if there is text
> or other fine details in the image that someone needs to be able to read
> easily. I hope you aren't using Word needlessly for this purpose.

Why does this not surprise me?

(To my great relief, I have never needed to use Microsoft Office enough
to bother learning its idiosyncracies.)

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#265

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-16 02:09 +0000
Message-ID<d8b4imF98m0U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#260
On 2015-10-15, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-10-15, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> >> > I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
>> >> > sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>> >> > into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>> >
>> >> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
>> > set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
>> > paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
>> 
>> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
>> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X. 
>
> No temporary files manual method: hold down the Contol key while taking
> the screenshot and it goes to the clipboard. Preview has a "New from
> Clipboard" command, then resize, then you can copy and paste from
> Preview to final destination (usually email in my case).
>
> I do this rarely enough that I haven't bothered trying to automate it.

Ah, that's true. I have used that a few times. 

>> BTW, I'm not sure what your reasoning is behind pasting graphics into
>> Word documents; but you should know you may very well be making life
>> harder than need be for whoever you happen to be sending these Word
>> files to. Word screws up images pasted into Word documents such that it
>> is often impossible to get anything but a low-resolution copy of the
>> image out of the document, which can be especially bad if there is text
>> or other fine details in the image that someone needs to be able to read
>> easily. I hope you aren't using Word needlessly for this purpose.
>
> Why does this not surprise me?
>
> (To my great relief, I have never needed to use Microsoft Office enough
> to bother learning its idiosyncracies.)

I mostly have to support people who do more than use it myself. When I
need a quick rich text document, I reach for TextEdit more often than
not.

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#266

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-10-15 19:22 -0700
Message-ID<D245AD8B.605C3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#265
On 10/15/15, 7:09 PM, in article d8b4imF98m0U2@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>>> BTW, I'm not sure what your reasoning is behind pasting graphics into
>>> Word documents; but you should know you may very well be making life
>>> harder than need be for whoever you happen to be sending these Word
>>> files to. Word screws up images pasted into Word documents such that it
>>> is often impossible to get anything but a low-resolution copy of the
>>> image out of the document, which can be especially bad if there is text
>>> or other fine details in the image that someone needs to be able to read
>>> easily. I hope you aren't using Word needlessly for this purpose.
>> 
>> Why does this not surprise me?
>> 
>> (To my great relief, I have never needed to use Microsoft Office enough
>> to bother learning its idiosyncracies.)
> 
> I mostly have to support people who do more than use it myself. When I
> need a quick rich text document, I reach for TextEdit more often than
> not.

I use Word for APA style papers. For most of my other word processing needs
I use Pages. It has few features but what it does it tends to do better and
smoother. A bit outdated, but I show this here:

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#272

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-10-16 17:07 -0400
Message-ID<bp6dnc8JPp2N-rzLnZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#260
On 2015-10-15 19:39, David Empson wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-10-15, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>>>> I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
>>>>> sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>>>>> into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>>>
>>>> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
>>> set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
>>> paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
>>
>> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
>> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X.
>
> No temporary files manual method: hold down the Contol key while taking
> the screenshot and it goes to the clipboard. Preview has a "New from
> Clipboard" command, then resize, then you can copy and paste from
> Preview to final destination (usually email in my case).

Aha!   (man I should read more of the thread before writing other 
replies ...)

Works great - I probably would forget to use it most times - but I'll 
try.  (Usually what I screenshot is pretty much what I want to send off 
somewhere or paste into something)

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#275

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-16 22:13 +0000
Message-ID<d8db4eFs28sU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#272
On 2015-10-16, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-15 19:39, David Empson wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-10-15, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
>>>>>> sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>>>>>> into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>>>>
>>>>> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
>>>> set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
>>>> paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
>>>
>>> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
>>> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X.
>>
>> No temporary files manual method: hold down the Contol key while taking
>> the screenshot and it goes to the clipboard. Preview has a "New from
>> Clipboard" command, then resize, then you can copy and paste from
>> Preview to final destination (usually email in my case).
>
> Aha!   (man I should read more of the thread before writing other 
> replies ...)
>
> Works great - I probably would forget to use it most times - but I'll 
> try.  (Usually what I screenshot is pretty much what I want to send off 
> somewhere or paste into something)

I use Control-Command-Shift-n to capture to the clipboard any time I
just want to paste a screen shot into a document. And the Preview "New
from Clipboard" command is the default "New Document" command; so
Control-Command-Shift-4, launch Preview, Command-N does the trick. I've
used that as well off an on through the years, but it didn't occur to me
when I initially answered.

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#276

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-10-16 18:29 -0400
Message-ID<hoidnTl3Csiy57zLnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#275
On 2015-10-16 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-10-16, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-15 19:39, David Empson wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-10-15, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
>>>>>>> sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>>>>>>> into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
>>>>> set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
>>>>> paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. You'll have to take a screen shot to a file and resize it. Again,
>>>> this can easily be automated with tools built into OS X.
>>>
>>> No temporary files manual method: hold down the Contol key while taking
>>> the screenshot and it goes to the clipboard. Preview has a "New from
>>> Clipboard" command, then resize, then you can copy and paste from
>>> Preview to final destination (usually email in my case).
>>
>> Aha!   (man I should read more of the thread before writing other
>> replies ...)
>>
>> Works great - I probably would forget to use it most times - but I'll
>> try.  (Usually what I screenshot is pretty much what I want to send off
>> somewhere or paste into something)
>
> I use Control-Command-Shift-n to capture to the clipboard any time I
> just want to paste a screen shot into a document. And the Preview "New
> from Clipboard" command is the default "New Document" command; so
> Control-Command-Shift-4, launch Preview, Command-N does the trick. I've
> used that as well off an on through the years, but it didn't occur to me
> when I initially answered.

I probably glossed over that in the past as I became familiar with OS X. 
  I typically (almost always) Shift-CMD-4 and it's popped into 
downloads, and that's it.  Good enough.  So I never improved on the 
matter.  I like what you suggest even more (occasionally screenshot 
stuff to message off to someone).

I thank Ant for bringing this up - never know what we'll learn from it!

Now, can I tell you about running with swap disabled ....   <runs>

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#277

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-16 22:47 +0000
Message-ID<d8dd4vFs28sU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#276
On 2015-10-16, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-16 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> I use Control-Command-Shift-n to capture to the clipboard any time I
>> just want to paste a screen shot into a document. And the Preview "New
>> from Clipboard" command is the default "New Document" command; so
>> Control-Command-Shift-4, launch Preview, Command-N does the trick. I've
>> used that as well off an on through the years, but it didn't occur to me
>> when I initially answered.
>
> I probably glossed over that in the past as I became familiar with OS X. 
>   I typically (almost always) Shift-CMD-4 and it's popped into 
> downloads, and that's it.  Good enough.  So I never improved on the 
> matter.  I like what you suggest even more (occasionally screenshot 
> stuff to message off to someone).
>
> I thank Ant for bringing this up - never know what we'll learn from it!
>
> Now, can I tell you about running with swap disabled ....   <runs>

: )

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#270

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-10-16 17:03 -0400
Message-ID<bp6dnc0JPp2--7zLnZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#245
On 2015-10-15 13:50, Ant wrote:
>>> I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions and
>>> sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>>> into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>
>> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>
> Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
> set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
> paste directly into Word 2011 documents.

Not that I know of, but it would be nifty if there was an option for 
Screen Capture to open the image in Preview before writing the file. 
That would satisfy your need above.  (But being good Unix programmers, 
Apple engineers would probably write the temp copy to disk before 
invoking Preview - so would come to the same thing...)

As to managing screenshots written to disk, I typically write them to 
the download folder and then use them (and edit them from there).  I 
cleanup the download folder regularly so that's a good place to keep 
them.  (The default is the desktop but that's easily changed).

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#286

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2015-10-16 23:17 -0700
Message-ID<mvsp18$ed0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#270
On 10/16/15   PDT 2:03 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-10-15 13:50, Ant wrote:
>>>> I noticed screen capturing on Retina Macs show very high resolutions
>>>> and
>>>> sizes. Is there a way not to have this big since I copy and paste them
>>>> into documents, e-mails, etc. often?
>>
>>> Easily resized via Preview|Tools.
>>
>> Is there a way to resize in memory without saving as files? Like always
>> set 50% of the screen captures I take? I usually screen capture and then
>> paste directly into Word 2011 documents.
>
> Not that I know of, but it would be nifty if there was an option for
> Screen Capture to open the image in Preview before writing the file.
> That would satisfy your need above.  (But being good Unix programmers,
> Apple engineers would probably write the temp copy to disk before
> invoking Preview - so would come to the same thing...)
>
> As to managing screenshots written to disk, I typically write them to
> the download folder and then use them (and edit them from there).  I
> cleanup the download folder regularly so that's a good place to keep
> them.  (The default is the desktop but that's easily changed).
>

My screenshots, almost always Cmd-Shift-4, gets saved into DropBox, 
which provides a quick way to link to a photo. precisely 11:16:13 PM PST 
on Friday, October 16, 2015.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/z87329gpw6lp6yu/Screenshot%202015-10-16%2023.16.21.png?dl=0>

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#287

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-10-17 09:07 -0400
Message-ID<Bs6dnXjY19671b_LnZ2dnUU7-Y3OydjZ@giganews.com>
In reply to#286
On 2015-10-17 02:17, John McWilliams wrote:

>
> My screenshots, almost always Cmd-Shift-4, gets saved into DropBox,
> which provides a quick way to link to a photo. precisely 11:16:13 PM PST
> on Friday, October 16, 2015.
>
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/z87329gpw6lp6yu/Screenshot%202015-10-16%2023.16.21.png?dl=0>

That's a good strategy if one shares most screenshots.

Mine are mainly for including in docs or sending to others via e-mail or 
message.  A lot of the later of late.  And now I often dump screen shots 
into Notes as well.

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#288

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-10-17 14:05 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn24lhv.v4e.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#287
In message <Bs6dnXjY19671b_LnZ2dnUU7-Y3OydjZ@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-17 02:17, John McWilliams wrote:

>>
>> My screenshots, almost always Cmd-Shift-4, gets saved into DropBox,
>> which provides a quick way to link to a photo. precisely 11:16:13 PM PST
>> on Friday, October 16, 2015.
>>
>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/z87329gpw6lp6yu/Screenshot%202015-10-16%2023.16.21.png?dl=0>

> That's a good strategy if one shares most screenshots.

It's a good strategy if you ever need to share screen shots. It's not
like anyone can look at all of them just because they are on Dropbox.

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#293

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-17 16:47 +0000
Message-ID<d8fcd4Fd7adU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#286
On 2015-10-17, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> My screenshots, almost always Cmd-Shift-4, gets saved into DropBox, 
> which provides a quick way to link to a photo. precisely 11:16:13 PM PST 
> on Friday, October 16, 2015.
>
><https://www.dropbox.com/s/z87329gpw6lp6yu/Screenshot%202015-10-16%2023.16.21.png?dl=0>

I just throw them up on my own web server to share them.

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