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| Started by | briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) |
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| First post | 2021-07-14 02:35 +0000 |
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Disk has lost its icon? briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2021-07-14 02:35 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-13 22:58 -0400
Re: Disk has lost its icon? briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2021-07-14 03:41 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-14 09:55 -0400
Re: Disk has lost its icon? briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2021-07-14 14:06 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-14 10:23 -0400
Re: Disk has lost its icon? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-07-14 18:43 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2021-07-15 01:36 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-14 21:40 -0400
Re: Disk has lost its icon? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-07-15 22:10 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-07-15 22:27 -0500
Re: Disk has lost its icon? briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2021-07-16 14:42 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-07-16 15:23 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-07-16 20:46 -0500
Re: Disk has lost its icon? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-07-17 02:03 +0000
Re: Disk has lost its icon? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-07-17 00:15 -0500
| From | briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 02:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Disk has lost its icon? |
| Message-ID | <sclih8$sm4$1@panix3.panix.com> |
I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and reasonably happy. However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility doesn't seem to cover it. Help? -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Brian Gordon -->briang@panix.com<-- brian dot gordon at cox dot net | + bgordon@aol.com Bass: NSC Frank Thorne + -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-07-13 22:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <130720212258464165%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2207 |
In article <sclih8$sm4$1@panix3.panix.com>, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just > fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and > reasonably happy. > > However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, > 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar > with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility > doesn't seem to cover it. check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the desktop.
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| From | briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 03:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sclmd2$gh2$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #2208 |
In article <130720212258464165%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <sclih8$sm4$1@panix3.panix.com>, Brian Gordon ><briang@panix.com> wrote: > >> I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and >> reasonably happy. >> >> However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility >> doesn't seem to cover it. > >check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the >desktop. Thanks for the tip - I shoud have mentioned that Finder Preferences are set to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as expected. This one seems unique. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Brian Gordon -->briang@panix.com<-- brian dot gordon at cox dot net | + bgordon@aol.com Bass: NSC Frank Thorne + -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 09:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140720210955544679%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2210 |
In article <sclmd2$gh2$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > >> I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just > >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and > >> reasonably happy. > >> > >> However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, > >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar > >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility > >> doesn't seem to cover it. > > > >check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the > >desktop. > > Thanks for the tip - I shoud have mentioned that Finder Preferences are set > to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as > expected. This one seems unique. did it ever show?
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| From | briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 14:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <scmr0b$hfe$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #2211 |
In article <140720210955544679%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <sclmd2$gh2$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon ><briang@panix.com> wrote: > >> >> I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just >> >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and >> >> reasonably happy. >> >> >> >> However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, >> >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar >> >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility >> >> doesn't seem to cover it. >> > >> >check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the >> >desktop. >> >> Thanks for the tip - I should have mentioned that Finder Preferences are set >> to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as >> expected. This one seems unique. > >did it ever show? Unfortunately, not yet. I just had Disk Utility check it, and it found nothing wrong. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Brian Gordon -->briang@panix.com<-- brian dot gordon at cox dot net | + bgordon@aol.com Bass: NSC Frank Thorne + -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 10:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140720211023122973%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2212 |
In article <scmr0b$hfe$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro > >> >> (Retina, > >> >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am > >> >> familar > >> >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility > >> >> doesn't seem to cover it. > >> > > >> >check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the > >> >desktop. > >> > >> Thanks for the tip - I should have mentioned that Finder Preferences are > >> set > >> to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as > >> expected. This one seems unique. > > > >did it ever show? > > Unfortunately, not yet. i meant in the past. did it previously show up and now it doesn't, or it never has shown up, ever? > I just had Disk Utility check it, and it found > nothing wrong. disk utility checks for directory issues, which isn't why it's not showing up. finder is not showing it for some unknown reason.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <il8phkF5d6bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2207 |
On 2021-07-14, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just > fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and > reasonably happy. > > However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, > 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar > with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility > doesn't seem to cover it. > > Help? With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute this command: ls -lO /Volumes What is the output? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) |
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| Date | 2021-07-15 01:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sco3er$o9m$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #2214 |
In article <il8phkF5d6bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2021-07-14, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: >> I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and >> reasonably happy. >> >> However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility >> doesn't seem to cover it. >> >> Help? > >With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute >this command: > >ls -lO /Volumes > >What is the output? > drwxr-xr-x 36 root wheel sunlnk 1292 May 20 11:44 Backup drwx------ 3 brianggordon wheel - 96 Jun 6 22:51 STICK2 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel - 96 Jul 13 22:18 com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots "Backup" is the disk under discussion. After two hours on the phone today, Apple support said to call the disk manufacturer (Seagate). That's ongoing and continued tomorrow. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Brian Gordon -->briang@panix.com<-- brian dot gordon at cox dot net | + bgordon@aol.com Bass: NSC Frank Thorne + -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-07-14 21:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140720212140059976%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2215 |
In article <sco3er$o9m$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > >With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute > >this command: > > > >ls -lO /Volumes > > > >What is the output? > > > > drwxr-xr-x 36 root wheel sunlnk 1292 May 20 11:44 Backup > drwx------ 3 brianggordon wheel - 96 Jun 6 22:51 STICK2 > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel - 96 Jul 13 22:18 > com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots > > "Backup" is the disk under discussion. > > After two hours on the phone today, Apple support said to call the disk > manufacturer (Seagate). That's ongoing and continued tomorrow. translated: 'i don't know and there's a lot of calls waiting in my call queue' seagate won't have any clue, nor should they since it's not their problem. the drive functions properly. data can be read and written.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-15 22:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ilbq2qFnamoU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2215 |
On 2021-07-15, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > In article <il8phkF5d6bU1@mid.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute >>this command: >> >>ls -lO /Volumes >> >>What is the output? > > drwxr-xr-x 36 root wheel sunlnk 1292 May 20 11:44 Backup > drwx------ 3 brianggordon wheel - 96 Jun 6 22:51 STICK2 > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel - 96 Jul 13 22:18 com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots > > "Backup" is the disk under discussion. Thanks. I was wondering if it had the "hidden" flag set for some reason, which would prevent Finder from displaying it on your desktop. It appears that is not the case. > After two hours on the phone today, Apple support said to call the disk > manufacturer (Seagate). That's ongoing and continued tomorrow. I doubt they will be able to help, but it's worth a shot. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2021-07-15 22:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #2207 |
Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?
Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
> I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just
> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and
> reasonably happy.
> However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina,
> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar
> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility
> doesn't seem to cover it.
> Help?
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| From | briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) |
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| Date | 2021-07-16 14:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <scs5st$27r$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #2218 |
In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also >try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one? > BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago - and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer! -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Brian Gordon -->briang@panix.com<-- brian dot gordon at cox dot net | + bgordon@aol.com Bass: NSC Frank Thorne + -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-16 15:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ildmjeF3qm6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2219 |
On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: > In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >>Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also >>try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one? > > BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago - > and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer! There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal account. You could start by deleting the contents of the ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work, try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing. For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than all at once. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2021-07-16 20:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <KfKdnUgNWukSq2_9nZ2dnUU7-I2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #2220 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
> > In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >>Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
> >>try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?
> >
> > BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago -
> > and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!
> There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal
> account. You could start by deleting the contents of the
> ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work,
> try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files
> are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing.
> For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an
> administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log
> into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you
> want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than
> all at once.
I wonder if booting safe mode would still show this issue in the
problematic account. IIRC, macOS' safe mode purges caches.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-17 02:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <iles4bFao1cU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2221 |
On 2021-07-17, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote: >> > In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, >> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >> >>Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also >> >>try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one? >> > >> > BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago - >> > and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer! > >> There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal >> account. You could start by deleting the contents of the >> ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work, >> try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files >> are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing. > >> For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an >> administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log >> into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you >> want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than >> all at once. > > I wonder if booting safe mode would still show this issue in the > problematic account. IIRC, macOS' safe mode purges caches. I can't recall whether it deletes caches or temporarily disables them. Either way, it's worth a shot. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2021-07-17 00:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jsWdnd_0gJ3p-m_9nZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #2222 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2021-07-17, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> >> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >> >>Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
> >> >>try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?
> >> >
> >> > BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago -
> >> > and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!
> >
> >> There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal
> >> account. You could start by deleting the contents of the
> >> ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work,
> >> try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files
> >> are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing.
> >
> >> For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an
> >> administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log
> >> into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you
> >> want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than
> >> all at once.
> >
> > I wonder if booting safe mode would still show this issue in the
> > problematic account. IIRC, macOS' safe mode purges caches.
> I can't recall whether it deletes caches or temporarily disables them.
> Either way, it's worth a shot.
Yeah, easy to test the theory out. It would help figure out how to fix it. ;)
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