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| Started by | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| First post | 2020-11-11 14:46 -0600 |
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Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 14:46 -0600
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-11 12:57 -0800
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 16:40 -0600
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-11-11 22:45 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 20:00 -0600
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-11 21:06 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-12 15:09 +1300
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-11 17:46 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-11 15:27 -0800
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-12 12:50 +1300
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-11 20:07 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-11 20:15 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-12 13:34 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-12 14:20 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-13 10:15 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 11:43 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 12:47 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 15:40 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-12 14:00 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-12 14:21 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-13 02:13 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-13 06:30 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-13 15:43 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-13 16:42 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-13 13:16 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-13 19:19 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-13 20:18 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-13 16:58 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 00:51 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 11:45 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 11:27 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-12 14:56 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-12 14:54 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-11 22:22 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-11 14:39 -0800
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-12 14:48 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 16:40 -0600
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-11 17:46 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-11-11 22:46 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-12 12:39 +1300
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 20:01 -0600
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-12 14:51 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-12 14:12 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-12 14:21 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 11:56 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-13 20:20 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 15:47 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 00:54 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-13 20:06 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 09:47 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 05:21 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-14 08:29 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 12:21 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-14 13:04 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 13:40 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 12:40 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-14 13:04 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 13:26 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 14:48 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-14 15:08 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 15:50 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 22:46 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-15 11:56 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-16 09:47 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-16 10:43 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-16 17:25 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-16 15:48 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-16 14:01 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-16 18:53 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-16 21:33 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:04 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 23:28 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 18:40 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-14 13:47 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 14:52 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-14 15:08 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 23:26 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 22:52 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-15 10:15 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-16 09:05 +1300
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-15 08:09 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 14:42 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 14:04 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-14 15:41 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-14 12:46 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-14 18:00 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 09:30 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 16:51 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 12:12 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 18:34 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 14:20 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-14 23:20 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-14 19:39 -0500
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-13 10:12 +0000
Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-12 14:50 +0000
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-12 14:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <121120201421014910%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2132 |
In article <kDfrH.133972$tL.51291@fx15.iad>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Another aspect: that 8 or 16GB on a M1 based MAC is used for both the > CPU and the GPUs. So less of the RAM is actually available to the OS > because the GPUs use the same RAM. nope. one major advantage is both the cpu and gpu can access the same data, eliminating the need to copy it. another advantage is that the memory itself is much faster.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 02:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ImqrH.448051$I15.366080@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #2135 |
On 2020-11-12 14:21, nospam wrote: > one major advantage is both the cpu and gpu can access the same data, > eliminating the need to copy it. another advantage is that the memory > itself is much faster. Yes, you save when the app transfers to the GPU the scene description. scene. But the GPU also uses a lot of memory to render the scene for each frame. And that is a lot of memory used by the GPU which now draws from RAM available to the CPU.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 06:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <131120200630461436%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2137 |
In article <ImqrH.448051$I15.366080@fx36.iad>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > > one major advantage is both the cpu and gpu can access the same data, > > eliminating the need to copy it. another advantage is that the memory > > itself is much faster. > > > Yes, you save when the app transfers to the GPU the scene description. > scene. But the GPU also uses a lot of memory to render the scene for > each frame. And that is a lot of memory used by the GPU which now draws > from RAM available to the CPU. you don't understand how things work, do you?
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 15:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrqtadc.1lo.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2140 |
In message <131120200630461436%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <ImqrH.448051$I15.366080@fx36.iad>, JF Mezei > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> >> > one major advantage is both the cpu and gpu can access the same data, >> > eliminating the need to copy it. another advantage is that the memory >> > itself is much faster. >> >> >> Yes, you save when the app transfers to the GPU the scene description. >> scene. But the GPU also uses a lot of memory to render the scene for >> each frame. And that is a lot of memory used by the GPU which now draws >> from RAM available to the CPU. > you don't understand how things work, do you? He really doesn't. At all. -- He wasn't good or evil or cruel or extreme in any way but one, which was that he had elevated greyness to the status of a fine art and cultivated a mind that was as bleak and pitiless and logical as the slopes of Hell.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 16:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i17rcgF4vbhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2141 |
On 2020-11-13, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote: > In message <131120200630461436%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> In article <ImqrH.448051$I15.366080@fx36.iad>, JF Mezei >> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >>>> one major advantage is both the cpu and gpu can access the same >>>> data, eliminating the need to copy it. another advantage is that >>>> the memory itself is much faster. >>> >>> Yes, you save when the app transfers to the GPU the scene >>> description. scene. But the GPU also uses a lot of memory to render >>> the scene for each frame. And that is a lot of memory used by the >>> GPU which now draws from RAM available to the CPU. > >> you don't understand how things work, do you? > > He really doesn't. At all. And this isn't news. He's been ignorant all of his time here, and shows a distinct inability to properly comprehend what he reads. He also has atrocious spelling and grammar. JF Mezei is essentially a big box of ignorant FUD with a shitty-ass bow on top. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 13:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <64ArH.522535$RY8.435107@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #2141 |
On 2020-11-13 10:43, Lewis wrote: >> you don't understand how things work, do you? > > He really doesn't. At all. Perhaps you could do the community a favour and explain how PCI-E GPUs work and how the Apple ones which share RAM will work.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 19:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i184hiF6nt1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2148 |
On 2020-11-13, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2020-11-13 10:43, Lewis wrote: > >>> you don't understand how things work, do you? >> >> He really doesn't. At all. > > Perhaps you could do the community a favour and explain how PCI-E GPUs > work and how the Apple ones which share RAM will work. That'd be a waste of time. Your track record here shows you wouldn't comprehend it even if someone did explain it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 20:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrqtqh4.12cb.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2148 |
In message <64ArH.522535$RY8.435107@fx48.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2020-11-13 10:43, Lewis wrote: >>> you don't understand how things work, do you? >> >> He really doesn't. At all. > Perhaps you could do the community a favour and explain how PCI-E GPUs > work and how the Apple ones which share RAM will work. Perhaps you should do your own research as you have proved countless times that you are incapable of learning from anything posted here. -- You know a thorn can main / But a lover does the same / A gem will reflect light / And a Fool will marvel at the sight / A fool such as me, /Who sees not the gold, but the beauty of the shine
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 16:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <RjDrH.209288$5l1.156945@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #2151 |
On 2020-11-13 15:18, Lewis wrote: > Perhaps you should do your own research as you have proved countless > times that you are incapable of learning from anything posted here. So you insult what I say but are unable to provide any real information to show I was wrong. hint: look at RAM config for the M1 vs Intel version of MacBook pro. Both have the in-CPU GPU. BTW, someone mentione the M1 macs have 3733MHz LPDDR4X RAM. This RAM spec is for the Intel version of the MacBook Pro 13". All Apple says for the M1 is "unified memory".
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 00:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrquag1.1fdt.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2155 |
In message <RjDrH.209288$5l1.156945@fx10.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2020-11-13 15:18, Lewis wrote: >> Perhaps you should do your own research as you have proved countless >> times that you are incapable of learning from anything posted here. > So you insult Stating you are ignorant and spew irrelevant VAX shit constantly is not an insult, it is a fact. -- "I have no choice but to believe in free will." - Randy Wayne White
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| From | Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 11:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6LyrH.362519$5_4.267870@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #2132 |
On 2020-11-12 14:00, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 2020-11-11 20:15, nospam wrote:
>> In article <VU%qH.433945$r25.305379@fx08.iad>, JF Mezei
>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The 16GB config max for the Air is laughable.
>>
>> it's a completely different architecture, therefore direct comparisons
>> are bogus.
>>
>> ipads and iphones do exceptionally well with 4 gig.
>
> Another aspect: that 8 or 16GB on a M1 based MAC is used for both the
> CPU and the GPUs.
As it is on many Macs that have shared GPU memory with the intel chip as
they use intel graphics. See this a lot in various MBA's and some Mac
Minis. Possibly lower spec 21" iMacs too (I haven't looked).
--
"...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
-Samuel Clemens
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| From | Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 11:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ItyrH.110140$4d1.24192@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #2116 |
On 2020-11-11 20:15, nospam wrote:
> In article <VU%qH.433945$r25.305379@fx08.iad>, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> The 16GB config max for the Air is laughable.
>
> it's a completely different architecture, therefore direct comparisons
> are bogus.
>
> ipads and iphones do exceptionally well with 4 gig.
This is neither. In any case, it depends on the use case. For many
people 8 GB is oodles (browsing, some office apps, e-mail and the like).
16 GB would be a bare minimum for my home computer but 8 GB is more than
enough at work even with a VM.
--
"...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
-Samuel Clemens
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-12 14:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrqqj8l.oiv.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2115 |
In message <VU%qH.433945$r25.305379@fx08.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > The 16GB config max for the Air is laughable. Consider how much focus > on graphic designers/video editors there was in the keynote. You have no idea what you are talking abut, as usual. -- Train Station: where the train stops. Work Station: ...
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-12 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrqqj5p.oiv.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2106 |
In message <XP2dnVNnM_jU9THCnZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: > It looks like Apple doesn't even sell its old Intel Macs from its web site? :( That is entirely incorrect. You can buy a 13" MBP with Intel, a 16" MBP with Intel, an iMac with Intel, an iMac Pro with Inter, a Mac Pro with Intel, and a Mac mini i5. -- Rincewind had always been happy to think of himself as a racist. The One Hundred Meters, the Mile, the Marathon -- he'd run them all.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-11 22:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrqop1q.1p5c.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2102 |
In message <B5ednfUswZo00DHCnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: > So, who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ;) I am ordering a MBA as soon as I decide if I should increase the RAM or not. It will be mostly for my wife who almost certainly doesn't need 16GB, but I am torn. -- I'm literally becoming less cool with every word you speak.
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| From | Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> |
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| Date | 2020-11-11 14:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <rohp6m$181$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2104 |
On 2020-11-11 2:22 p.m., Lewis wrote: > In message <B5ednfUswZo00DHCnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >> So, who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ;) > > I am ordering a MBA as soon as I decide if I should increase the RAM or > not. It will be mostly for my wife who almost certainly doesn't need > 16GB, but I am torn. > > Spend the money and get the 16GB. You're buying a machine to last the next 5 years or more. The extra RAM will cost you (I'm in Canada) about $250CAD, so that's $50 per year to ensure the machine has what it will need for the latter part of its life.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> |
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| Date | 2020-11-12 14:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrqqip1.oiv.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> |
| In reply to | #2105 |
In message <rohp6m$181$1@dont-email.me> Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote: > On 2020-11-11 2:22 p.m., Lewis wrote: >> In message <B5ednfUswZo00DHCnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >>> So, who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ;) >> >> I am ordering a MBA as soon as I decide if I should increase the RAM or >> not. It will be mostly for my wife who almost certainly doesn't need >> 16GB, but I am torn. >> >> > Spend the money and get the 16GB. > You're buying a machine to last the next 5 years or more. The extra RAM > will cost you (I'm in Canada) about $250CAD, so that's $50 per year to > ensure the machine has what it will need for the latter part of its life. That is what I ended up doing. With the EDU discount it's $1100. -- Oh look, good intentions!
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2020-11-11 16:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <XP2dnVJnM_js9THCnZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #2104 |
In comp.sys.mac.system Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <B5ednfUswZo00DHCnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > So, who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ;)
> I am ordering a MBA as soon as I decide if I should increase the RAM or
> not. It will be mostly for my wife who almost certainly doesn't need
> 16GB, but I am torn.
Aren't the RAMs still soldered in? If so, then you might as well go as big as
you can afford. Same for storage. :(
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-11 17:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <111120201746207098%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2107 |
In article <XP2dnVJnM_js9THCnZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: > > Aren't the RAMs still soldered in? If so, then you might as well go as big as > you can afford. Same for storage. :( no. the ram is in the m1 itself.
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| From | Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2020-11-11 22:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i137u9FbocrU50@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2107 |
On 11 Nov 2020 at 22:40:49 GMT, Ant <Ant> wrote: > In comp.sys.mac.system Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote: >> In message <B5ednfUswZo00DHCnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: >> > So, who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ;) > >> I am ordering a MBA as soon as I decide if I should increase the RAM or >> not. It will be mostly for my wife who almost certainly doesn't need >> 16GB, but I am torn. > > Aren't the RAMs still soldered in? If so, then you might as well go as big as > you can afford. Same for storage. :( Seems the RAM is inside the M1 chip. -- Tim
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