Re: FileMaker Archaeology

From	dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.databases, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: FileMaker Archaeology
Date	2015-12-16 11:07 +1300
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<1mfir0f.jy70yt1o7i87jN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> (permalink)
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <slrnn70nar.qqg.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > >> >> >> > I posted this in comp.databases.filemaker but that group gets
> > >> >> >> > even less traffic than this one (if possible).
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> > I have been using FieMaker since before Claris bought it.
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> Claris did not buy Filemaker.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> > yes they did, from nashoba systems
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> You are grossly misinformed.
> > >> 
> > >> > you're grossly ignorant.
> > >> 
> > >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claris#Creation>
> > >> >   In 1988, Claris purchased FileMaker from Nashoba Systems and quickly
> > >> 
> > >> Claris could not buy anything, being a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple.
> > >> Apple bought FileMaker and assigned it to Claris.
> > 
> > > nonsense,
> > 
> > Not at all.
> 
> it is nonsense. claris was independently managed and they can (and did)
> buy several products, filemaker being one of them. 

AppleWorks GS is another which comes to mind (from personal experience,
it happened the year after I got my Apple IIgs). It was previously being
developed by a different company as "GSWorks". Wikipedia reminds me that
the original developer was StyleWare. That was in 1988, the same year
that FileMaker was acquired by Claris and re-released as FileMaker II.

> > In fact, the purchase of FileMaker and the spinning out of
> > Claris were nearly synchronous events. Without the purchase of FileMaker
> > Claris would never have been spunout because the whole reason for
> > creating Claris was to continue to sell FileMaker to PC users.
> 
> more revisionist history.

"Continue" to sell FileMaker to PC users? Claris _introduced_ FileMaker
to Windows, with FileMaker Pro 2.0 in 1992, four years and two versions
after Claris acquired FileMaker. All earlier versions using the
"FileMaker" name (including those written by Nashoba Systems) were Mac
only.

Judging from documentation I've found, this resulted in oddities such as
later versions of FileMaker Pro on Windows only supporting conversion of
FileMaker Pro 2.0 and newer documents (since there were no earlier
versions to support), while later versions of FileMaker Pro on the Mac
also supported converting FileMaker Pro 1.0 documents (and presumably
FileMaker II documents).

> > > but even if that were true, filemaker was still bought.
> > 
> > Not the point at all. But thanks for playing.
> 
> it was the point.
> 
> even if apple told claris to buy filemaker (which they didn't but let's
> assume they did), filemaker was purchased and the original poster *did*
> own it before claris had it, as did many people.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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