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Re: FileMaker Archaeology

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.databases, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: FileMaker Archaeology
Date 2015-12-15 17:14 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <151220151714540808%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <slrnn70buu.o07.g.kreme@amelia.local> <151220151059208787%nospam@nospam.invalid> <slrnn70nar.qqg.g.kreme@amelia.local> <151220151632298105%nospam@nospam.invalid> <1mfir0f.jy70yt1o7i87jN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>

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In article <1mfir0f.jy70yt1o7i87jN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
<dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> > > >> >> >> > I posted this in comp.databases.filemaker but that group gets
> > > >> >> >> > even less traffic than this one (if possible).
> > > >> >> >> 
> > > >> >> >> > I have been using FieMaker since before Claris bought it.
> > > >> >> >> 
> > > >> >> >> Claris did not buy Filemaker.
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> > yes they did, from nashoba systems
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> You are grossly misinformed.
> > > >> 
> > > >> > you're grossly ignorant.
> > > >> 
> > > >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claris#Creation>
> > > >> >   In 1988, Claris purchased FileMaker from Nashoba Systems and
> > > >> >   quickly
> > > >> 
> > > >> Claris could not buy anything, being a wholly owned subsidiary of
> > > >> Apple.
> > > >> Apple bought FileMaker and assigned it to Claris.
> > > 
> > > > nonsense,
> > > 
> > > Not at all.
> > 
> > it is nonsense. claris was independently managed and they can (and did)
> > buy several products, filemaker being one of them. 
> 
> AppleWorks GS is another which comes to mind (from personal experience,
> it happened the year after I got my Apple IIgs). It was previously being
> developed by a different company as "GSWorks". Wikipedia reminds me that
> the original developer was StyleWare. That was in 1988, the same year
> that FileMaker was acquired by Claris and re-released as FileMaker II.

yep.

<http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/bob/clarisworks.php>
  Meanwhile, Apple had formed a software subsidiary, named Claris, to
  develop and market application software. Initially Claris sold
  MacWrite, MacPaint, and MacDraw, for the Macintosh, and AppleWorks,
  for the Apple II. (The original plan was that Claris would become
  completely independent from Apple someday, and go public. But that
  never happened.)
  Naturally Claris was interested in this forthcoming AppleWorks-like
  program for the IIGS. In 1988, Claris bought StyleWare, moved the
  development team to its offices in Santa Clara, and rechristened
  GSWorks as AppleWorks GS. (I was already living in the SF bay area by
  then: I'd moved out in 1987 to be with my fiancé, Liz Harding, who
  was in grad school at Berkeley.)

> > > In fact, the purchase of FileMaker and the spinning out of
> > > Claris were nearly synchronous events. Without the purchase of FileMaker
> > > Claris would never have been spunout because the whole reason for
> > > creating Claris was to continue to sell FileMaker to PC users.
> > 
> > more revisionist history.
> 
> "Continue" to sell FileMaker to PC users? Claris _introduced_ FileMaker
> to Windows, with FileMaker Pro 2.0 in 1992, four years and two versions
> after Claris acquired FileMaker. All earlier versions using the
> "FileMaker" name (including those written by Nashoba Systems) were Mac
> only.

yep.

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      Re: FileMaker Archaeology dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-12-15 11:28 +1300
        Re: FileMaker Archaeology ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2015-12-15 02:19 +0100
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  Re: FileMaker Archaeology JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-12-14 15:02 -0500
  Re: FileMaker Archaeology Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-15 00:51 +0000
    Re: FileMaker Archaeology nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-14 20:05 -0500
      Re: FileMaker Archaeology Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-15 04:23 +0000
        Re: FileMaker Archaeology nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-14 23:45 -0500
          Re: FileMaker Archaeology Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-15 15:18 +0000
            Re: FileMaker Archaeology nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-15 10:59 -0500
              Re: FileMaker Archaeology Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-15 18:32 +0000
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-15 16:32 -0500
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-12-16 11:07 +1300
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-15 17:14 -0500
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2015-12-16 08:09 +0000
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-12-17 13:59 +1300
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2015-12-17 02:51 +0000
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-16 13:30 +0000
                Re: FileMaker Archaeology Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-12-15 13:35 -0800
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        Re: FileMaker Archaeology dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-12-15 17:52 +1300
          Re: FileMaker Archaeology dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-12-15 18:48 +1300
        Re: FileMaker Archaeology Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-12-14 21:49 -0800
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  Re: FileMaker Archaeology Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-15 11:38 -0800
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