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  [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-21 17:51 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 15:58 +0000
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-21 16:47 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 16:58 +0000
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 05:03 +1200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 17:25 +0000
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 17:06 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2016-08-21 21:10 +0100
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-23 02:01 +0000
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 02:25 +0000
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 08:39 +0100
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 09:05 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:06 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 16:00 +0100
                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-23 10:35 -0600
                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 17:39 +0100
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-23 10:59 +0100
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 12:22 +0000
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2016-08-25 01:54 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 05:33 +0200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-24 15:47 +0000
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-24 18:04 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-24 17:37 +0100
                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-24 19:32 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-25 15:56 +0000
                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 18:39 +0200
                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 17:00 +0000
                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 19:20 +0200
                        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 17:34 +0000
                          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 19:58 +0200
                            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 18:04 +0000
                              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 20:15 +0200
                            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-25 21:43 +0100
                              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 21:16 +0000
                                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 04:14 +0200
                                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 03:14 +0000
                                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 05:21 +0200
                                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 04:36 +0000
                                        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 06:50 +0200
                                          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 05:38 +0000
                                            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 07:46 +0200
                                              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-26 20:13 +1200
                                                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 10:20 +0200
                                                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-26 20:48 +1200
                                                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 11:14 +0200
                                                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-27 02:08 +1200
                            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-26 18:06 +0000
                              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 08:27 +0200
                                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-28 17:37 +0000
                                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 19:45 +0200
                                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2016-08-28 19:12 +0100
                                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-29 17:39 +0000
                                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2016-08-29 18:50 +0100
                                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-08-30 05:26 -0400
                                        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-30 22:10 +1200
                                          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-30 13:22 +0200
                                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-28 20:04 +0200
                                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 20:14 +0200
                                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-29 12:49 +0200
                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Julian Gomez <jeg@polished-pixels.com> - 2016-09-01 23:44 -0700
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-22 18:41 +0200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-22 17:11 +0000
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 04:40 +1200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) js@xs4all.nl (Jeroen Scheerder) - 2016-08-21 19:14 +0200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 13:08 +1200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:06 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) - 2016-08-21 21:54 +0100
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-08-22 09:21 +1200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:18 +0200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-23 12:24 +1200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) "James C. Andrew" <jim@magrathea.plus.com> - 2016-08-22 09:14 +0100
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nemo@erewhon.invalid (John Hill) - 2016-08-22 09:17 +0100
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-23 11:40 +0100
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) macker@nospam.invalid (Macker) - 2016-08-22 11:44 -0300
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) g.harper@gmx.line (Gwynne Harper) - 2016-08-22 19:44 +0300
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (Anders Eklöf) - 2016-08-22 23:49 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-23 12:04 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:15 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) info@that.sundog.co.uk (SM) - 2016-08-23 12:37 +0100
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-23 14:19 +0200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 23:02 +0200
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-23 17:06 -0600
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-24 10:46 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-24 21:13 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2016-08-24 10:49 +0100
                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-24 22:08 +1200
                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2016-08-25 20:05 +0100
                    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 16:29 +0100
                      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-27 07:32 +1200
                        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 19:58 +0000
                          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2016-08-27 20:25 +0300
                            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-28 07:22 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-24 13:05 +0200
                  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-25 00:49 +1200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-24 11:40 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-24 19:18 -0600
    [ANN] French MacSOUP Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-29 18:41 +0200

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#2972 — [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported)

Well, de facto MacSOUP has been more or less unsupported for a long
time, with no new releases for years.

I have been meaning to stop taking money for it for years, because it
was really not justifiable any more; but even that is work (removing the
registration number mechanism from a code base that barely builds with
recent versions of Xcode), so I never got around to it. Now that Kagi
has gone out of business, I had no choice.

So now, MacSOUP is free and officially unsupported. I will try to keep
it running on new macOS versions as long as this is possible with
reasonable effort, but if this becomes too much work, I'll stop doing
it. (This will definitely be the case if Apple removes the Carbon
libraries from macOS, or stops supporting 32-bit applications.)

The free 2.8.5 version is available from:

  <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/download.html>


-- 
Stefan Haller
Berlin, Germany
http://www.haller-berlin.de/

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#2973

Stefan Haller <stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de> wrote:
> Well, de facto MacSOUP has been more or less unsupported for a long
> time, with no new releases for years.
> 
> I have been meaning to stop taking money for it for years, because it
> was really not justifiable any more; but even that is work (removing the
> registration number mechanism from a code base that barely builds with
> recent versions of Xcode), so I never got around to it. Now that Kagi
> has gone out of business, I had no choice.
> 
> So now, MacSOUP is free and officially unsupported. I will try to keep
> it running on new macOS versions as long as this is possible with
> reasonable effort, but if this becomes too much work, I'll stop doing
> it. (This will definitely be the case if Apple removes the Carbon
> libraries from macOS, or stops supporting 32-bit applications.)
> 
> The free 2.8.5 version is available from:
> 
>   <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/download.html>

Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain so
that others can contribute to the effort?

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#2975

On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
wrote in e1u1c8Ftuc6U1@mid.individual.net:

> Stefan Haller <stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de> wrote:
>> Well, de facto MacSOUP has been more or less unsupported for a long
>> time, with no new releases for years.
>> 
>> I have been meaning to stop taking money for it for years, because it
>> was really not justifiable any more; but even that is work (removing
>> the registration number mechanism from a code base that barely builds
>> with recent versions of Xcode), so I never got around to it. Now that
>> Kagi has gone out of business, I had no choice.
>> 
>> So now, MacSOUP is free and officially unsupported. I will try to keep
>> it running on new macOS versions as long as this is possible with
>> reasonable effort, but if this becomes too much work, I'll stop doing
>> it. (This will definitely be the case if Apple removes the Carbon
>> libraries from macOS, or stops supporting 32-bit applications.)
>> 
>> The free 2.8.5 version is available from:
>> 
>>   <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/download.html>
> 
> Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain
> so that others can contribute to the effort?

There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac. Let's thank 
Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the app and the code 
without whining or nagging.



-- 
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#2976

On 2016-08-21, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> wrote in e1u1c8Ftuc6U1@mid.individual.net:
>> 
>> Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain
>> so that others can contribute to the effort?
>
> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.

I am aware since I use an alternative client; but I am not interested in
other news clients in this particular thread.

> Let's thank Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the
> app and the code without whining or nagging.

I think it's pretty cleat I'm neither whining nor nagging. 

I think it should be obvious I appreciate Stefan's contribution to
the Mac software space - otherwise I wouldn't be posting to this thread.
But since you insist: Thanks, Stefan. : )

I'm not asking if he will remove his name from the credits or
anything like that. As a fellow Mac software developer, I think he
should be given credit for his work for all of eternity.

I'm simply asking what Stefan's thought's are regarding open sourcing
the app so that others may contribute to keeping it running and
enhancing it as time goes on. This seems like a perfectly legitimate
question to ask at this point in time.

Do you speak for Stefan? Your response doesn't seem to be in line with
what I would expect from him.

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#2977

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2016-08-21, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> > wrote in e1u1c8Ftuc6U1@mid.individual.net:
> >> 
> >> Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain
> >> so that others can contribute to the effort?
> >
> > There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
> 
> I am aware since I use an alternative client; but I am not interested in
> other news clients in this particular thread.
> 
> > Let's thank Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the
> > app and the code without whining or nagging.
> 
> I think it's pretty cleat I'm neither whining nor nagging. 
> 
> I think it should be obvious I appreciate Stefan's contribution to
> the Mac software space - otherwise I wouldn't be posting to this thread.
> But since you insist: Thanks, Stefan. : )
> 
> I'm not asking if he will remove his name from the credits or
> anything like that. As a fellow Mac software developer, I think he
> should be given credit for his work for all of eternity.
> 
> I'm simply asking what Stefan's thought's are regarding open sourcing
> the app so that others may contribute to keeping it running and
> enhancing it as time goes on. This seems like a perfectly legitimate
> question to ask at this point in time.
> 
> Do you speak for Stefan? Your response doesn't seem to be in line with
> what I would expect from him.

I'm unsure why open source would be equated with anonymous development.
Where did _that_ come from? :-)

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#2980

On 2016-08-21, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-21, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
>> > wrote in e1u1c8Ftuc6U1@mid.individual.net:
>> >> 
>> >> Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain
>> >> so that others can contribute to the effort?
>> >
>> > There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
>> 
>> I am aware since I use an alternative client; but I am not interested in
>> other news clients in this particular thread.
>> 
>> > Let's thank Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the
>> > app and the code without whining or nagging.
>> 
>> I think it's pretty cleat I'm neither whining nor nagging. 
>> 
>> I think it should be obvious I appreciate Stefan's contribution to
>> the Mac software space - otherwise I wouldn't be posting to this thread.
>> But since you insist: Thanks, Stefan. : )
>> 
>> I'm not asking if he will remove his name from the credits or
>> anything like that. As a fellow Mac software developer, I think he
>> should be given credit for his work for all of eternity.
>> 
>> I'm simply asking what Stefan's thought's are regarding open sourcing
>> the app so that others may contribute to keeping it running and
>> enhancing it as time goes on. This seems like a perfectly legitimate
>> question to ask at this point in time.
>> 
>> Do you speak for Stefan? Your response doesn't seem to be in line with
>> what I would expect from him.
>
> I'm unsure why open source would be equated with anonymous development.
> Where did _that_ come from? :-)

I'm not sure where any of it came from...

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#2978

On 2016-08-21, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2016-08-21, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
>> wrote in e1u1c8Ftuc6U1@mid.individual.net:
>>> 
>>> Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain
>>> so that others can contribute to the effort?
>>
>> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
>
> I am aware since I use an alternative client; but I am not interested in
> other news clients in this particular thread.
>
>> Let's thank Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the
>> app and the code without whining or nagging.
>
> I think it's pretty cleat I'm neither whining nor nagging. 

s/cleat/clear/

> I think it should be obvious I appreciate Stefan's contribution to
> the Mac software space - otherwise I wouldn't be posting to this thread.
> But since you insist: Thanks, Stefan. : )
>
> I'm not asking if he will remove his name from the credits or
> anything like that. As a fellow Mac software developer, I think he
> should be given credit for his work for all of eternity.
>
> I'm simply asking what Stefan's thought's are

s/t's/ts/

Haste makes waste...

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#2981

On 21/08/2016 17:47, android wrote:
 > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
 > wrote in e1u1c8Ftuc6U1@mid.individual.net:
 >>
 >> Is there any chance you will place the source code in the public domain
 >> so that others can contribute to the effort?
 >
 > There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac. Let's thank
 > Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the app and the code
 > without whining or nagging.
 >
Who the hell was whining or nagging? I think Stefan knows that he is 
appreciated and no one - apart from you - has ever suggested discrediting him...


-- 
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

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#2994

For your reference, records indicate that 
android <here@there.was> wrote:

> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.

No, there really aren’t.  Had there been any viable candidates, I 
would have latched on to one of them rather than trying to get 
Signal off the ground.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#2995

On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:01:22 +0000, Doc O'Leary 
<droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote in npgapi$lf$1@dont-email.me:

> For your reference, records indicate that android <here@there.was>
> wrote:
> 
>> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
> 
> No, there really aren’t.  Had there been any viable candidates, I would
> have latched on to one of them rather than trying to get Signal off the
> ground.

You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version of 
it, Thunderbird is open source and there are commercial readers like 
HogWasher and Unison available.
-- 
teleportation kills

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#2996

On 2016-08-23 02:25:57 +0000, android <here@there.was> said:

> ...there are commercial readers like
> HogWasher and Unison available.

Unison is discontinued but free to download:
<https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/>

That's the 2.x series. To my knowledge there's no way to get a 1.x 
series (which I prefer).


Cheers,
Ian

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#2997

On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:39:19 +0100, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in
e22ct7F11d7U1@mid.individual.net:

> On 2016-08-23 02:25:57 +0000, android <here@there.was> said:
> 
>> ...there are commercial readers like HogWasher and Unison available.
> 
> Unison is discontinued but free to download:
> <https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/>
> 
> That's the 2.x series. To my knowledge there's no way to get a 1.x
> series (which I prefer).
> 
<https://download.panic.com/unison/>

But you will probably need a license...
-- 
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#3001

android <here@there.was> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:39:19 +0100, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in
> e22ct7F11d7U1@mid.individual.net:
> 
> > On 2016-08-23 02:25:57 +0000, android <here@there.was> said:
> > 
> >> ...there are commercial readers like HogWasher and Unison available.
> > 
> > Unison is discontinued but free to download:
> > <https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/>
> > 
> > That's the 2.x series. To my knowledge there's no way to get a 1.x
> > series (which I prefer).

Seconded.

> <https://download.panic.com/unison/>
> 
> But you will probably need a license...

There are ways...

Jan

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#3008

On 2016-08-23 09:05:50 +0000, android <here@there.was> said:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:39:19 +0100, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in
> e22ct7F11d7U1@mid.individual.net:
> 
>> On 2016-08-23 02:25:57 +0000, android <here@there.was> said:
>> 
>>> ...there are commercial readers like HogWasher and Unison available.
>> 
>> Unison is discontinued but free to download:
>> <https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/>
>> 
>> That's the 2.x series. To my knowledge there's no way to get a 1.x
>> series (which I prefer).
>> 
> <https://download.panic.com/unison/>
> 
> But you will probably need a license...

No, it's on the page - unlocked download.


Cheers,
Ian

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#3009

Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote:

> No, it's on the page - unlocked download.

The download is free, but any version earlier than 2.1.10 will
eventually demand a serial number to run. 

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#3010

On 2016-08-23 16:35:47 +0000, nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) said:

> Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote:
> 
>> No, it's on the page - unlocked download.
> 
> The download is free, but any version earlier than 2.1.10 will
> eventually demand a serial number to run.

True - it's 2.2.x that's freely available to use on that page. I still 
use 1.8.1 because I prefer it, but 2.2 is free to grab and use right 
now.

Cheers,
Ian

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#2998

android <here@there.was> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:01:22 +0000, Doc O'Leary 
> <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote in npgapi$lf$1@dont-email.me:
> 
> > For your reference, records indicate that android <here@there.was>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
> > 
> > No, there really aren't.  Had there been any viable candidates, I would
> > have latched on to one of them rather than trying to get Signal off the
> > ground.
> 
> You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version of
> it, Thunderbird is open source and there are commercial readers like 
> HogWasher and Unison available.

But they are not as good as MacSoup

Pan has been ported and can be loaded from Macports (and I assume
Homebrew)


-- 
Mark

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#3007

On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:59:18 +0100, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley)
wrote in 1msfh7a.17zxgz5un3mtxNMark Bestleyews{@bestley.co.uk:

> android <here@there.was> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:01:22 +0000, Doc O'Leary
>> <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote in npgapi$lf$1@dont-email.me:
>> 
>> > For your reference, records indicate that android <here@there.was>
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
>> > 
>> > No, there really aren't.  Had there been any viable candidates, I
>> > would have latched on to one of them rather than trying to get Signal
>> > off the ground.
>> 
>> You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version
>> of it, Thunderbird is open source and there are commercial readers like
>> HogWasher and Unison available.
> 
> But they are not as good as MacSoup
> 
> Pan has been ported and can be loaded from Macports (and I assume
> Homebrew)

It is open source available for those that wants to make a made for Mac 
app.

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#3024

On 23/08/2016 13:21, android wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:59:18 +0100, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley)
> wrote in 1msfh7a.17zxgz5un3mtxNMark Bestleyews{@bestley.co.uk:
>
>> android <here@there.was> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:01:22 +0000, Doc O'Leary
>>> <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote in npgapi$lf$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> For your reference, records indicate that android <here@there.was>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
>>>>
>>>> No, there really aren't.  Had there been any viable candidates, I
>>>> would have latched on to one of them rather than trying to get Signal
>>>> off the ground.
>>>
>>> You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version
>>> of it, Thunderbird is open source and there are commercial readers like
>>> HogWasher and Unison available.
>>
>> But they are not as good as MacSoup
>>
>> Pan has been ported and can be loaded from Macports (and I assume
>> Homebrew)
>
> It is open source available for those that wants to make made for Mac app.
>
When someone else suggested making it open source, you said :-

 > There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac. Let's thank
 > Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the app and the code
 > without whining or nagging.

Have you changed your mind now?

-- 
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

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#3026

In article <O96dnXjm7M5Q3CPKnZ2dnUU78f2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
 David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:

> On 23/08/2016 13:21, android wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:59:18 +0100, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley)
> > wrote in 1msfh7a.17zxgz5un3mtxNMark Bestleyews{@bestley.co.uk:
> >
> >> android <here@there.was> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:01:22 +0000, Doc O'Leary
> >>> <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote in npgapi$lf$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>>> For your reference, records indicate that android <here@there.was>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, there really aren't.  Had there been any viable candidates, I
> >>>> would have latched on to one of them rather than trying to get Signal
> >>>> off the ground.
> >>>
> >>> You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version
> >>> of it, Thunderbird is open source and there are commercial readers like
> >>> HogWasher and Unison available.
> >>
> >> But they are not as good as MacSoup
> >>
> >> Pan has been ported and can be loaded from Macports (and I assume
> >> Homebrew)
> >
> > It is open source available for those that wants to make made for Mac app.
> >
> When someone else suggested making it open source, you said :-
> 
>  > There are open alternatives that can be adopted to the Mac. Let's thank
>  > Stefan for his efforts and let him keep his name on the app and the code
>  > without whining or nagging.
> 
> Have you changed your mind now?

No.
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