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Blocking the neighbor's WiFi

Started byOtto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com>
First post2012-11-28 18:30 -0800
Last post2020-09-13 21:40 -0700
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  Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2012-11-28 18:30 -0800
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-28 22:23 -0500
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-28 22:37 -0800
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2012-11-28 20:41 -0800
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-28 23:52 -0800
          Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2012-11-28 22:53 -0800
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-29 02:35 -0800
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Lampje <eternal-september.spamonice@antichef.net> - 2012-11-30 01:03 +0100
              Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi David Stone <no.email@domain.invalid> - 2012-11-30 09:52 -0500
                Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-11-30 14:22 -0500
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2012-11-29 06:41 +0000
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2012-11-29 13:31 -0600
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2012-11-29 18:44 -0500
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi lucyhunter2567@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:41 -0800
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us> - 2012-11-29 21:59 -0500
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2012-11-29 21:13 -0800
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-30 00:34 -0800
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us> - 2012-11-30 19:47 -0500
          Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2012-11-30 21:22 -0800
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2012-12-02 13:56 -0500
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi zethneeley@gmail.com - 2017-03-04 19:28 -0800
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi scibur314r8t@gmail.com - 2015-12-27 06:29 -0800
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-12-27 19:02 +0000
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2015-12-27 20:35 -0600
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-27 21:40 -0500
          Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2015-12-29 15:08 -0600
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-29 16:23 -0500
              Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2015-12-29 16:01 -0600
          Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nellylove690@gmail.com - 2020-09-13 16:19 -0700
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> - 2020-09-14 00:31 +0000
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi lucyhunter2567@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 16:05 -0800
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-12-06 02:23 +0000
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-05 22:46 -0500
        Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi lucyhunter2567@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:40 -0800
          Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-06 02:14 -0500
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi lucyhunter2567@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 00:00 -0800
          Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-12-06 12:09 -0500
            Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi lucyhunter2567@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 12:03 -0800
              Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-06 15:21 -0500
                Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-12-10 12:03 -0500
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2018-12-06 11:18 +0100
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi daquilagaetano@gmail.com - 2020-04-07 10:22 -0700
      Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-04-07 14:08 -0400
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nellylove690@gmail.com - 2020-09-13 15:40 -0700
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nellylove690@gmail.com - 2020-09-13 16:16 -0700
    Re: Blocking the neighbor's WiFi nellylove690@gmail.com - 2020-09-13 21:40 -0700

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#3094

Fromzethneeley@gmail.com
Date2017-03-04 19:28 -0800
Message-ID<51bfca9b-2199-42a2-b1d4-8a9bc66fea1e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1144
That's some good info Bob H. Thanks for sharing.

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#2916

Fromscibur314r8t@gmail.com
Date2015-12-27 06:29 -0800
Message-ID<ddae1a2c-0798-45bb-bbbc-ab74c881a106@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1133
On Thursday, November 29, 2012 at 12:30:46 PM UTC+10, Otto Pylot wrote:
> I'm almost embarrassed to ask this but is there anyway to block my
> neighbors WiFi signals from intruding into my home? I have an AEBS (4th
> Gen) router. We have numerous WiFi devices that have always worked
> perfectly for a long time. About a month ago I bought an iPhone 5. WiFi
> worked great with a nice strong signal. My daughter has an iPhone 4
> which has always worked equally as well. When she was home for the
> holidays she was complaining that she couldn't connect to our network.
> I noticed that my iPhone was also having the same issue (from the same
> location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I noticed that there
> were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the same location in my
> house than there used to be. Some quite strong and all protected.
> Moving the iPhones around the house resolved the connection issues. So
> I'm thinking that in the family room, there are very strong
> neighborhood signals that are causing the iPhones to search and attempt
> to lock on to. The other WiFi devices in the family room don't seem to
> be having connection issues. So, is this 1) an issue unique to the
> iPhones? 2) an AEBS setup issue? 3) true interference from the
> neighbors WiFIs? 4) can I make my WiFi signal (2.4GHz) stronger to
> "overpower" the other signals? and 5) is there really anything I can do
> about it or is this just life in the WiFi age? Oh, and we have a
> utility SmartMeter on the same side of the house but I've never noticed
> any interference issues with it. Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Deja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. Please respond to: scasse@invalid.net
> replacing invalid with sonic.

kali.org cheke it out and your problems will no longer excist regardless of how much i get flamed for saying this your only option is a modified chipset on the router/modem/whatever running on set bands and its gona suck because your running ios but to set it to those (probally gona have to flash the os and build your own kernal for the wifi adaptors) bands.....or go on kali.org get your self a copy for free

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#2917

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-12-27 19:02 +0000
Message-ID<deaqv2FokvrU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2916
On Thursday, November 29, 2012 at 12:30:46 PM UTC+10, Otto Pylot wrote:
> I'm almost embarrassed to ask this but is there anyway to block my
> neighbors WiFi signals from intruding into my home? I have an AEBS
> (4th Gen) router. We have numerous WiFi devices that have always
> worked perfectly for a long time. About a month ago I bought an iPhone
> 5. WiFi worked great with a nice strong signal. My daughter has an
> iPhone 4 which has always worked equally as well. When she was home
> for the holidays she was complaining that she couldn't connect to our
> network.  I noticed that my iPhone was also having the same issue
> (from the same location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I
> noticed that there were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the
> same location in my house than there used to be. Some quite strong and
> all protected.  Moving the iPhones around the house resolved the
> connection issues. So I'm thinking that in the family room, there are
> very strong neighborhood signals that are causing the iPhones to
> search and attempt to lock on to. The other WiFi devices in the family
> room don't seem to be having connection issues. So, is this 1) an
> issue unique to the iPhones? 2) an AEBS setup issue? 3) true
> interference from the neighbors WiFIs? 4) can I make my WiFi signal
> (2.4GHz) stronger to "overpower" the other signals? and 5) is there
> really anything I can do about it or is this just life in the WiFi
> age? Oh, and we have a utility SmartMeter on the same side of the
> house but I've never noticed any interference issues with it. Thanks.

Apple's devices are more discerning than others when it comes to
connecting to WiFi networks, in that weaker signals or signals with
more noise are often ignored / filtered out because connecting to them
would result in a connection that does not perform well.

If you have a lot of competing access points in the vicinity, and your
router is located in a room that is far enough away from the family room
that the signal to noise ratio is bad there, you could extend your
network into the family room by adding another Airport Extreme/Express
configured to extend the network, which would give you a much stronger
signal in that room. That's what I've done  with a pair of Airport
Extreme access points while living in crowded apartment complexes where
there can be 20 or more competing access points in close proximity, and
it does a decent job of ensuring a good connection in all rooms.

You might try mapping your network with a tool like this to get a visual
indication of signal strength and noise ratio in different locations in
your home:

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/netspot-wifi-survey-wireless/id514951692?mt=12>

As far as blocking competing signals, that can be done as well, but
requires physical shielding with a metal material that blocks WiFi radio
frequencies. You'd basically have to use a tool to figure out where
competing signals are strongest, and then place blocking material in
between to block those unwanted signals. I haven't ever had to bother
doing anything like that myself. See:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage>

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#2918

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2015-12-27 20:35 -0600
Message-ID<n5q74v$8sm$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#2916
On 12-27-2015 08:29, scibur314r8t@gmail.com wrote:
>>location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I noticed that there
>>were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the same location in my
>>house than there used to be. Some quite strong and all protected.

Is there an unused channel,
and can you tell your access point to use it?

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#2919

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-12-27 21:40 -0500
Message-ID<271220152140564943%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#2918
In article <n5q74v$8sm$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Happy.Hobo
<Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

> >>location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I noticed that there
> >>were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the same location in my
> >>house than there used to be. Some quite strong and all protected.
> 
> Is there an unused channel,

for 2.4ghz, there are 11 overlapping channels (in the usa), giving
effectively only 3 non-overlapping channels.

> and can you tell your access point to use it?

it can be set to use a specific wifi network.

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#2920

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2015-12-29 15:08 -0600
Message-ID<n5usp1$bog$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#2919
On 12-27-2015 20:40, nospam wrote:
> In article <n5q74v$8sm$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Happy.Hobo
> <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>> location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I noticed that there
>>>> were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the same location in my
>>>> house than there used to be. Some quite strong and all protected.
>>
>> Is there an unused channel,
>
> for 2.4ghz, there are 11 overlapping channels (in the usa), giving
> effectively only 3 non-overlapping channels.

Irrelevant.  The question is still whether there is one he can use.

>> and can you tell your access point to use it?
>
> it can be set to use a specific wifi network.

I suspect you don't know whether OP has a device that can change 
channels or is limited to one or limited to "automatic" (which can fail 
to switch to something that actually works).

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#2921

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-12-29 16:23 -0500
Message-ID<291220151623420836%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#2920
In article <n5usp1$bog$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Happy.Hobo
<Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

> >>>> location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I noticed that there
> >>>> were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the same location in my
> >>>> house than there used to be. Some quite strong and all protected.
> >>
> >> Is there an unused channel,
> >
> > for 2.4ghz, there are 11 overlapping channels (in the usa), giving
> > effectively only 3 non-overlapping channels.
> 
> Irrelevant.  The question is still whether there is one he can use.

it's not irrelevant. 

there are only 3 channels available without overlap, so it's pretty
much guaranteed that in any non-rural area, there *will* be other wifi
networks in use.

in an apartment setting, it's possible that several of them will be
strong enough to cause a problem. with houses and certainly in rural
areas, neighbor's networks will be weak and won't matter much, if at
all.

> >> and can you tell your access point to use it?
> >
> > it can be set to use a specific wifi network.
> 
> I suspect you don't know whether OP has a device that can change 
> channels or is limited to one or limited to "automatic" (which can fail 
> to switch to something that actually works).

automatic is not a limitation.

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#2922

From"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Date2015-12-29 16:01 -0600
Message-ID<n5uvqt$i97$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#2921
On 12-29-2015 15:23, nospam wrote:
> In article <n5usp1$bog$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Happy.Hobo
> <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:

>> Irrelevant.  The question is still whether there is one he can use.
>
> it's not irrelevant.
>
> there are only 3 channels available without overlap, so it's pretty
> much guaranteed that in any non-rural area, there *will* be other wifi
> networks in use.

Worked for me when I had an AP that allowed me to pick the channel after 
"automatic" failed to find a good one.

>>>> and can you tell your access point to use it?
>>>
>>> it can be set to use a specific wifi network.
>>
>> I suspect you don't know whether OP has a device that can change
>> channels or is limited to one or limited to "automatic" (which can fail
>> to switch to something that actually works).
>
> automatic is not a limitation.

It obviously was in the case above.  As was my other AP that did not 
allow me to make a choice.

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#3148

Fromnellylove690@gmail.com
Date2020-09-13 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<08a72189-0672-46bc-9ef7-70ee914894b0o@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2919
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#3150

FromChris Schram <chrispam1@me.com>
Date2020-09-14 00:31 +0000
Message-ID<rjmdki$8dl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#3148
On 2020-09-13, nellylove690@gmail.com <nellylove690@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are proud to introduce our products to the world. we specialize in
> the production and distribution of very high quality marijuana and
> cannabis oil at the most affordable prices.Customer satisfaction is
> our greatest concern. for infos visit our website
> :"uggc://xvatcynprpnaanovf.pbz

What a simple solution, so simple I should have thought of it myself.
After a liberal application of "very high quality marijuana and cannabis
oil," I truly no longer give a damn about my neighbor's WiFi. Thank you
so much. You are my savior.

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You're better off replying to this newsgroup.

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#3130

Fromlucyhunter2567@gmail.com
Date2018-12-05 16:05 -0800
Message-ID<719cbf80-ec83-4205-904e-c07755614e1f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1133
Hi there
CAn someone tell me how to block Wifi signals full stop without resorting to using a radio frequency blocker?
We are being bombarded by Wifi signals from the neighbours in every direction, have informed them that they do not need Wifi on all day and night, and to use the LAN cable. 

In the mean time our radio frequency receiver goes off into the red spectrum which means we are being radiated whilst siting in our living room, lounge and bedrooms on one side of the house. This is environmental pollution and should be illegal.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks 

On Thursday, November 29, 2012 at 3:30:46 PM UTC+13, Otto Pylot wrote:
> I'm almost embarrassed to ask this but is there anyway to block my
> neighbors WiFi signals from intruding into my home? I have an AEBS (4th
> Gen) router. We have numerous WiFi devices that have always worked
> perfectly for a long time. About a month ago I bought an iPhone 5. WiFi
> worked great with a nice strong signal. My daughter has an iPhone 4
> which has always worked equally as well. When she was home for the
> holidays she was complaining that she couldn't connect to our network.
> I noticed that my iPhone was also having the same issue (from the same
> location in the house btw). Firing up iStumbler I noticed that there
> were a lot more WIFI signals detectable from the same location in my
> house than there used to be. Some quite strong and all protected.
> Moving the iPhones around the house resolved the connection issues. So
> I'm thinking that in the family room, there are very strong
> neighborhood signals that are causing the iPhones to search and attempt
> to lock on to. The other WiFi devices in the family room don't seem to
> be having connection issues. So, is this 1) an issue unique to the
> iPhones? 2) an AEBS setup issue? 3) true interference from the
> neighbors WiFIs? 4) can I make my WiFi signal (2.4GHz) stronger to
> "overpower" the other signals? and 5) is there really anything I can do
> about it or is this just life in the WiFi age? Oh, and we have a
> utility SmartMeter on the same side of the house but I've never noticed
> any interference issues with it. Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Deja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. Please respond to: scasse@invalid.net
> replacing invalid with sonic.

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#3131

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2018-12-06 02:23 +0000
Message-ID<g6rfhrFhj7dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#3130
On 2018-12-06, lucyhunter2567@gmail.com <lucyhunter2567@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there
> CAn someone tell me how to block Wifi signals full stop without resorting to using a radio frequency blocker?
> We are being bombarded by Wifi signals from the neighbours in every direction, have informed them that they do not need Wifi on all day and night, and to use the LAN cable. 
>
> In the mean time our radio frequency receiver goes off into the red spectrum which means we are being radiated whilst siting in our living room, lounge and bedrooms on one side of the house. This is environmental pollution and should be illegal.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

[Don't top post, and start a new thread to ask a new question.]

Build a faraday cage around your house:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage>

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#3132

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-12-05 22:46 -0500
Message-ID<051220182246494751%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#3130
In article <719cbf80-ec83-4205-904e-c07755614e1f@googlegroups.com>,
<lucyhunter2567@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there
> CAn someone tell me how to block Wifi signals full stop without resorting to
> using a radio frequency blocker?

cut the power to your neighborhood. 

> We are being bombarded by Wifi signals from the neighbours in every
> direction, have informed them that they do not need Wifi on all day and
> night, and to use the LAN cable. 

you're being 'bombarded' by tv, radio, cellular, police, fire and many
other services, all of which transmit at *significantly* more power
than wifi.

> In the mean time our radio frequency receiver goes off into the red spectrum
> which means we are being radiated whilst siting in our living room, lounge
> and bedrooms on one side of the house.

turn it off and it won't go red. 

> This is environmental pollution and
> should be illegal.

nonsense.

> Any help would be appreciated.

you're beyond help.

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#3133

Fromlucyhunter2567@gmail.com
Date2018-12-05 22:40 -0800
Message-ID<b4952766-a023-44e8-94fe-35eec8f9eb4e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3132
Sounds like you're the one in need of help. Wifi is as dangerous if not more dangerous than a lot of radio frequencies in local communities as they are emitted directly inside the premises where people are working and living. If you knew anything about radio frequencies and how they disrupt human cells, then you wouldn't be running off your stupid mouth in such an ignorant manner.

Navy communications engineers and physicists would tend to disagree with your pathetic response as I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z99_SzoXZdY&t=18s 

So F off and don't waste my time.


On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 4:46:50 PM UTC+13, nospam wrote:
> In article <719cbf80-ec83-4205-904e-c07755614e1f@googlegroups.com>,
> <lucyhunter> wrote:
> 
> > Hi there
> > CAn someone tell me how to block Wifi signals full stop without resorting to
> > using a radio frequency blocker?
> 
> cut the power to your neighborhood. 
> 
> > We are being bombarded by Wifi signals from the neighbours in every
> > direction, have informed them that they do not need Wifi on all day and
> > night, and to use the LAN cable. 
> 
> you're being 'bombarded' by tv, radio, cellular, police, fire and many
> other services, all of which transmit at *significantly* more power
> than wifi.
> 
> > In the mean time our radio frequency receiver goes off into the red spectrum
> > which means we are being radiated whilst siting in our living room, lounge
> > and bedrooms on one side of the house.
> 
> turn it off and it won't go red. 
> 
> > This is environmental pollution and
> > should be illegal.
> 
> nonsense.
> 
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> you're beyond help.

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#3135

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-12-06 02:14 -0500
Message-ID<061220180214393032%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#3133
In article <b4952766-a023-44e8-94fe-35eec8f9eb4e@googlegroups.com>,
<lucyhunter2567@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like you're the one in need of help. Wifi is as dangerous if not more
> dangerous than a lot of radio frequencies in local communities as they are
> emitted directly inside the premises where people are working and living.

nonsense, especially at the power levels of wifi (milliwatts).

radio & tv are *far* more powerful.

> If
> you knew anything about radio frequencies and how they disrupt human cells,
> then you wouldn't be running off your stupid mouth in such an ignorant
> manner.

there is *zero* proof that rf at the power levels of consumer devices
cause any problems. 

people have been holding cellular phones next to their brain for nearly
40 years without issue, and those old analog cellular phones were
higher power than what exists today.

> Navy communications engineers and physicists would tend to disagree with your
> pathetic response as I do.

no they don't. 

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z99_SzoXZdY&t=18s 

microwave warfare is very different than consumer wifi.

> So F off and don't waste my time.

no. you're entertaining. and stupid.

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#3136

Fromlucyhunter2567@gmail.com
Date2018-12-06 00:00 -0800
Message-ID<5bd56575-6ea0-4cd2-bd57-dd6c009f5cba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3135
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 8:14:41 PM UTC+13, nospam wrote:
> In article <b4952766-a023-44e8-94fe-35eec8f9eb4e@googlegroups.com>,
> <lucyhunter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Sounds like you're the one in need of help. Wifi is as dangerous if not more
> > dangerous than a lot of radio frequencies in local communities as they are
> > emitted directly inside the premises where people are working and living.
> 
> nonsense, especially at the power levels of wifi (milliwatts). Shows how uninformed and intellectually handicapped you are.
> 
> radio & tv are *far* more powerful. Rubbish, if that was the case my RF meter would be going off in front of it, its doesn't. It goes off at radio frequencies from the WiFri and cellular. Even in the middle of our street the RF from Wifri is incredibly high.
> 
> > If
> > you knew anything about radio frequencies and how they disrupt human cells,
> > then you wouldn't be running off your stupid mouth in such an ignorant
> > manner.
> 
> there is *zero* proof that rf at the power levels of consumer devices
> cause any problems. More rubbish - I suppose you believe everything your Govt tells you. I worked in cellular comms for years and my brother in the Navy as a Telecoms engineer and what you spout is utter crap and ignorance. Its the typical line Govt's and Govt agencies take. 

Anyone whom has worked in RF knows the dangers, and Wifri is up there, and once 5G is fully operational it will kill more people than cellular as 5G transmitters will be on every street corner, one for every dozen houses. 
> 
> people have been holding cellular phones next to their brain for nearly
> 40 years without issue, and those old analog cellular phones were
> higher power than what exists today.
> 
> > Navy communications engineers and physicists would tend to disagree with your
> > pathetic response as I do.
> 
> no they don't.  Yes they do, me my brother and my radio engineers the globe over including the one in the link sent to you - and he's a physicist. 

Keep you ignorant comments to yourself and your Govt wako's as they have to preach the BS they do or they do not have a job. 

  
> 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z99_SzoXZdY&t=18s 
> 
> microwave warfare is very different than consumer wifi.
> 
> > So F off and don't waste my time.
> 
> no. you're entertaining. and stupid. People like you will put your hand up when they say we need to depopulate as you are so stupid, you will believe them. Anyone with half a brain knows that RF radio radiation kills - slowly, and the higher the frequency the faster.

Comments from your are now automatic trash - you know spam folder. 

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#3138

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2018-12-06 12:09 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-9DEA74.12094706122018@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#3133
In article <b4952766-a023-44e8-94fe-35eec8f9eb4e@googlegroups.com>,
 lucyhunter2567@gmail.com wrote:

> Sounds like you're the one in need of help. Wifi is as dangerous if not more 
> dangerous than a lot of radio frequencies in local communities as they are 
> emitted directly inside the premises where people are working and living.

But the WiFi you're talking about is being emitted in a DIFFERENT 
premise than yours. The distance and walls between the homes will 
attenuate most of the signal.

I live in a one-bedroom apartment, and have my router in my living room. 
When I take my tablet into the bedroom about 30 feet away, I lose one 
bar. And if I try to use it one flight up in the laundry room, I can't 
get a connection at all.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#3139

Fromlucyhunter2567@gmail.com
Date2018-12-06 12:03 -0800
Message-ID<e33d8732-b0e1-4263-b3e6-05ffb7aaed4a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3138
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:09:51 AM UTC+13, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <b4952766-a023-44e8-94fe-35eec8f9eb4e@googlegroups.com>,
>  lucyhunter@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Sounds like you're the one in need of help. Wifi is as dangerous if not more 
> > dangerous than a lot of radio frequencies in local communities as they are 
> > emitted directly inside the premises where people are working and living.
> 
> But the WiFi you're talking about is being emitted in a DIFFERENT 
> premise than yours. The distance and walls between the homes will 
> attenuate most of the signal.
> 
> I live in a one-bedroom apartment, and have my router in my living room. 
> When I take my tablet into the bedroom about 30 feet away, I lose one 
> bar. And if I try to use it one flight up in the laundry room, I can't 
> get a connection at all.
> 
> -- 
> Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA
> *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

I would have thought that correct but its not. Our smart phones are picking the signal from the neighbors WiFri, and as we have a RF (RX & TX) hand held device that picks up all radio frequencies, its showing us that the signal is very strong. Even in the middle of the street the RF receiver is going off into the red telling me the signal is very strong, and is pointing towards the neighbours houses.

Please watch the video from the Physicist and X Navy engineer who tells us why Wifri is so bad, just as cellular is. 

One more test, put a pot plant next to you wifi modem and watch as it slowly withers and dies. This is what RF signals are doing to human cells.

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#3140

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-12-06 15:21 -0500
Message-ID<061220181521130087%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#3139
In article <e33d8732-b0e1-4263-b3e6-05ffb7aaed4a@googlegroups.com>,
<lucyhunter2567@gmail.com> wrote:

> One more test, put a pot plant next to you wifi modem and watch as it slowly
> withers and dies.

only because it's not near a window for sunlight and not watered often
enough.

or, you're smoking too much of it.

> This is what RF signals are doing to human cells.

yet somehow the human race (and animals, for that matter) has managed
to survive for more than 100 years while subjected to far more powerful
rf signals, with life expectancy *increasing* over that time.

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#3141

FromBarry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Date2018-12-10 12:03 -0500
Message-ID<barmar-921A93.12031410122018@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#3140
In article <061220181521130087%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <e33d8732-b0e1-4263-b3e6-05ffb7aaed4a@googlegroups.com>,
> <lucyhunter2567@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > One more test, put a pot plant next to you wifi modem and watch as it slowly
> > withers and dies.
> 
> only because it's not near a window for sunlight and not watered often
> enough.
> 
> or, you're smoking too much of it.
> 
> > This is what RF signals are doing to human cells.
> 
> yet somehow the human race (and animals, for that matter) has managed
> to survive for more than 100 years while subjected to far more powerful
> rf signals, with life expectancy *increasing* over that time.

I heard that life expectancy in the US has actually declined in the last 
few years. I guess all those radio signals are finally catching up on us 
:)

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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